Possibility of WW3?

[OGEvilgenius]

Anything is possible, but a world war like we've had in the past is highly unlikely at this point. There's too much money involved in keeping the peace, think about international trade. Also most if not all of the UN members have protection treaties to prevent that exact thing from happening.

It's about power.

Always has been, always will be. Money is simply a tool for that. Much power can be gained from large war. More over, wars tend to happen historically when economies are in historically awful shape ie: now.

There are many reasons to believe WW3 is a very real threat. It's not a certainty though. Many have argued that it's already started by proxy.

 

[ChesusRice]

It's about power.

Always has been, always will be. Money is simply a tool for that. Much power can be gained from large war. More over, wars tend to happen historically when economies are in historically awful shape ie: now.

There are many reasons to believe WW3 is a very real threat. It's not a certainty though. Many have argued that it's already started by proxy.

Nukes have rendered WW3 as implausible.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Nukes have rendered WW3 as implausible.

They really haven't. The US has adopted preemptive nuclear strikes as a policy. Many of the hawks on both sides of this fight believe they can win a nuclear war by hitting hard first. With bunker busters et al. This is a dangerous belief. But it is still something they absolutely believe and you can read about in all kinds of policy papers from various organizations ranging from the CFR to the Pentagon.

More over, there have been quite a few surface nuclear tests. I do not think governments would hesitate to drop at least a similar number to what have already been dropped (except on major military targets, probably cities, instead of unpopulated land).

Most of it will wind up in the northern hemisphere anyway. Which of course is why most of the rich people in the world are headed to the southern hemisphere (again, you are free to read stories about this which have been published sporadically for a few years now).

The people who run the world have absolutely no remorse or feeling about you or anyone else. Only self interest. And for the high functioning sadistic sociopaths, of which no doubt there are quite a few, they'd flat out get off on nuking the world (that's the self interest part).

 

[ChesusRice]

They really haven't. The US has adopted preemptive nuclear strikes as a policy. Many of the hawks on both sides of this fight believe they can win a nuclear war by hitting hard first. With bunker busters et al. This is a dangerous belief. But it is still something they absolutely believe and you can read about in all kinds of policy papers from various organizations ranging from the CFR to the Pentagon.

More over, there have been quite a few surface nuclear tests. I do not think governments would hesitate to drop at least a similar number to what have already been dropped (except on major military targets, probably cities, instead of unpopulated land).

Most of it will wind up in the northern hemisphere anyway. Which of course is why most of the rich people in the world are headed to the southern hemisphere (again, you are free to read stories about this which have been published sporadically for a few years now).

The people who run the world have absolutely no remorse or feeling about you or anyone else. Only self interest. And for the high functioning sadistic sociopaths, of which no doubt there are quite a few, they'd flat out get off on nuking the world (that's the self interest part).

No 2 countries engaging in a nuclear exchange will win. Ever

 

[ttystikk]

I was reading an article where 4 Eurofighter Typhoons took on 16 F16's in war games and destroyed the 16 F16's with not a single loss.

Cost of Typhoon each? Including development and production cost: $135mill

Estimated cost of Joint Strike Fighter programme?

$1.1 trillion with no actual planes included.

America's military suffers from the "$10,000 hammer, $20,000 toilet seat" mentality.

Was reading about the new defense systems on your Navy ships to replace the minigun on the CIWS systems, it uses missiles instead...

Missile cost each?

$990,000.

Fuck those people on food stamps tho...

THIS is the real reason America keeps finding wars to get into; turns out that they're awfully profitable for the wealthy elite- who never have to send their sons to die!

 

[OGEvilgenius]

No 2 countries engaging in a nuclear exchange will win. Ever

I agree, but it doesn't really matter what you or I think.

WASHINGTON—The Obama administration will release a new national nuclear-weapons strategy Tuesday that makes only modest changes to U.S. nuclear forces, leaving intact the longstanding U.S. threat to use nuclear weapons first, even against non-nuclear nations.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304620304575166263632513790

 

[ODanksta]

World war=
noun
1.
a war that involves most of the principal nations of the world.

so is anybody saying WW3 is not already here?

 

[ttystikk]

World war=
noun
1.
a war that involves most of the principal nations of the world.

so is anybody saying WW3 is not already here?

NOW yer gettin' it! We just euphamize the vocabulary so folks see things our way; 'terrorism', 'policing', 'peacekeeping'.

Those who set the agenda and the tone get to justify pretty much anything. So it's not much of a coincidence that all of the major media outlets in America are owned by Fortune 50 companies...

 

[ODanksta]

So here is the deal, Syria "rebels vs government" we "the US" were for the rebels, then Isis joined to help out, then we became kinda "uncertain" then throw in Iran, now Russia is setting up shop to help Assad, this could get ugly real quick. But also puts everyone in a weird position.. IMO Isis only major problem is forcing nations into sharia law. People need help Isis comes in, but then forces it's religious agenda... I'm with @UncleBuck on Isis and IT IS OUR FAULT. IMO we "the US" should back out, we are only going to make worse.

Russia believe it or not "regardless of agendas" has played their cards correctly while we are just a mess

 

[ttystikk]

So here is the deal, Syria "rebels vs government" we "the US" were for the rebels, then Isis joined to help out, then we became kinda "uncertain" then throw in Iran, now Russia is setting up shop to help Assad, this could get ugly real quick. But also puts everyone in a weird position.. IMO Isis only major problem is forcing nations into sharia law. People need help Isis comes in, but then forces it's religious agenda... I'm with @UncleBuck on Isis and IT IS OUR FAULT. IMO we "the US" should back out, we are only going to make worse.

Russia believe it or not "regardless of agendas" has played their cards correctly while we are just a mess

Russians play a lot of chess, especially during the long, dark winter months. The first rule in chess us 'begin with the end in mind'. I think they're much better at the long game than we are.

 

[New Age United]

Russians play a lot of chess, especially during the long, dark winter months. The first rule in chess us 'begin with the end in mind'. I think they're much better at the long game than we are.

And now they have the technology and resources as well, a very dangerous opponent.

 

[hellmutt bones]

Tham! I thought you meant White Widow #3.

 

[New Age United]

I still believe that a war between superpowers without the use of nuclear arms is possible. However if it gets too bad then maybe someone would decide to end it all and pull the nuclear trigger. I don't believe that the UN protection acts could never be broken, even though the UN is much stronger and more well established than the league of nations, look at what happened to the league of nations prior to ww2. If the world superpowers feel that a massive all out war between themselves is necessary to reestablish the global economy (war creates both industry and population reduction) then I have no doubt that they will open the box.

 

[Harrekin]

So here is the deal, Syria "rebels vs government" we "the US" were for the rebels, then Isis joined to help out, then we became kinda "uncertain" then throw in Iran, now Russia is setting up shop to help Assad, this could get ugly real quick. But also puts everyone in a weird position.. IMO Isis only major problem is forcing nations into sharia law. People need help Isis comes in, but then forces it's religious agenda... I'm with @UncleBuck on Isis and IT IS OUR FAULT. IMO we "the US" should back out, we are only going to make worse.

Russia believe it or not "regardless of agendas" has played their cards correctly while we are just a mess

There were no Syrian rebels, my God people use your fucking brains.

Syrian rebels = ISIS...

America wanted to dispose of Assad so badly that they armed ISIS and this is the blowback.

ISIS has used chemical weapons TWICE now, reckon it was still Assad who gassed that town in Syria?

I called it as it was happening and all the lefties said "No, Obama is right".

 

[OGEvilgenius]

There were no Syrian rebels, my God people use your fucking brains.

Syrian rebels = ISIS...

America wanted to dispose of Assad so badly that they armed ISIS and this is the blowback.

ISIS has used chemical weapons TWICE now, reckon it was still Assad who gassed that town in Syria?

I called it as it was happening and all the lefties said "No, Obama is right".

Long interview on Al Jazeera with Obama's head of Military Intelligence saying outright they knew they were arming extremists and that ISIS was going to be the result.

Front page of conservative Maclean's magazine here is cheering the Kurds for fighting against ISIS so effectively and then a week later Turkey (our ally) publicly announce they are bombing the Kurds.

It's 1984 to the extreme right now. The amount of double think required to accept the current political narrative is extreme.

 

[UncleBuck]

There were no Syrian rebels, my God people use your fucking brains.

Syrian rebels = ISIS...

America wanted to dispose of Assad so badly that they armed ISIS and this is the blowback.

ISIS has used chemical weapons TWICE now, reckon it was still Assad who gassed that town in Syria?

I called it as it was happening and all the lefties said "No, Obama is right".

that's a cool little fantasy you've concocted there.

 

[Harrekin]

Long interview on Al Jazeera with Obama's head of Military Intelligence saying outright they knew they were arming extremists and that ISIS was going to be the result.

Front page of conservative Maclean's magazine here is cheering the Kurds for fighting against ISIS so effectively and then a week later Turkey (our ally) publicly announce they are bombing the Kurds.

It's 1984 to the extreme right now. The amount of double think required to accept the current political narrative is extreme.

Especially when you add the fact it's Iran who are causing the most damage to ISIS.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

And to op ww3 is already here.. But it's a battle not a war. Isis is causing multiple nations to fight, IMO that is a world conflict. But what we really need to worry about is a race war here in American that could spark a civil war. I feel that America will eventually fall unfortunately, because history always repeats itself.

Haha! I am always telling peeps you gotta live! Don't waste your time being all too conservative. And be all like peace and love to all!

At the end of the day. Us older folks have lived. I don't believe it will happen, this tragic war. Except in smaller skirmishes such as riots and such. But, it happens every day and all the time somewhere. What if you happen to be there at that moment and are affected? Lights out and you didn't see it coming?

Anyway. Peace and love bro. Live. I mean, most of my time is behind me. So many young people get screwed out of there time. And you just never know who or when?

It's a beautiful thing. Peace and love.

 

[GrowUrOwnDank]

It's about power.

Always has been, always will be. Money is simply a tool for that. Much power can be gained from large war. More over, wars tend to happen historically when economies are in historically awful shape ie: now.

There are many reasons to believe WW3 is a very real threat. It's not a certainty though. Many have argued that it's already started by proxy.

Are you serious?

"More over, wars tend to happen historically when economies are in historically awful shape ie: now"

What's wrong? Can't afford an iPhone 6 plus so you have to use your ancient iPhone 5S? Are you really deprived?

Woah is me.

 

[ODanksta]

Haha! I am always telling peeps you gotta live! Don't waste your time being all too conservative. And be all like peace and love to all!

At the end of the day. Us older folks have lived. I don't believe it will happen, this tragic war. Except in smaller skirmishes such as riots and such. But, it happens every day and all the time somewhere. What if you happen to be there at that moment and are affected? Lights out and you didn't see it coming?

Anyway. Peace and love bro. Live. I mean, most of my time is behind me. So many young people get screwed out of there time. And you just never know who or when?

It's a beautiful thing. Peace and love.

Great post homie...