Profile of the Oregon shooter - Chris Harper-Mercer

Uncle Ben

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Chris Harper-Mercer is now a name synonymous with Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, James Holmes, Vester Flanagan and countless other shooters who have terrorized American citizens in various gun-free zones aka "soft targets".

Early reports say he was:

1. 26 years old,

2. Didn't like organized religion.....targeted Christians during the massacre,

3. Born of inter-racial parents, seeking a like mate. His mother was black, his father who abandoned him was white,

4. And a fact that most if not all male prison inmates have in common - no solid, strong father figure during upbringing.

Needless to say, these nutjobs always target soft targets. Defenseless students are easy prey. I'd like to see one of them take down a poiice station. If you value your life, don't frequent "gun-free" zones or attend a "gun free" campus like the Oregon community college.
 
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ricky1lung

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Wouldn't it be nice not having to strap on a gun to leave your home because the assumption is that everyone else probably has a gun on them? Scratch the assumption, the fact is most people carry them.

Wouldn't it be better if you could go out and enjoy your day knowing most people aren't carrying and you and your family could be much safer on your outing?

Gun free zones are not the issue. Maybe try something that has proven to work elsewhere instead of the proven failed status quo.

Americans need to take a hard look at what's really important to stop the constant tragedies.
 

god1

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Wouldn't it be nice not having to strap on a gun to leave your home because the assumption is that everyone else probably has a gun on them? Scratch the assumption, the fact is most people carry them.

Wouldn't it be better if you could go out and enjoy your day knowing most people aren't carrying and you and your family could be much safer on your outing?

Gun free zones are not the issue. Maybe try something that has proven to work elsewhere instead of the proven failed status quo.

Americans need to take a hard look at what's really important to stop the constant tragedies.

What's wrong with dealing with the obvious?

How about starting with the fact that fucked up people can make some bad decisions. The people are the problem. Find solutions to fixing or getting rid of these people and you stop the nonsense. Dealing with the people should be the focus.

Continuing the dialog of blaming an inanimate object won't solve anything. This is nothing new, the nutty professor knows this, but it's in his personality to be divisive, he just can't resist.
 

ricky1lung

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What's wrong with dealing with the obvious?

How about starting with the fact that fucked up people can make some bad decisions. The people are the problem. Find solutions to fixing or getting rid of these people and you stop the nonsense. Dealing with the people should be the focus.

Continuing the dialog of blaming an inanimate object won't solve anything. This is nothing new, the nutty professor knows this, but it's in his personality to be divisive, he just can't resist.

I'm not blaming guns. I'm saying people need to rethink guns.
It is a people issue, people need to rethink and try something new.

We agree, on the people aspect. How best to deal with it? I don't know but there are ways that have proven effective elsewhere.
 

Uncle Ben

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Alot of this has to do with the local culture and other social ills the main one being no solid father figure as a role model. You know, someone that hugs his boy, tells him he's OK, sets limits and boundaries of right and wrong, takes him to the ball game......
 

ricky1lung

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Alot of this has to do with the local culture and other social ills the main one being no solid father figure as a role model. You know, someone that hugs his boy, tells him he's OK, sets limits and boundaries of right and wrong, takes him to the ball game......

Don't suggest single moms raise screwed up people because their isn't a man around to keep everyone in check.

Pretty sad.
 

Uncle Ben

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Don't suggest single moms raise screwed up people because their isn't a man around to keep everyone in check.

Pretty sad.
It is sad, and it's a fact. Ask any pastor who has ministered to prison inmates. They will tell you that 90% of them did not have a father in the house.
 

OddBall1st

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It is sad, and it's a fact. Ask any pastor who has ministered to prison inmates. They will tell you that 90% of them did not have a father in the house.

But selling guns cash and carry to the unknown will fix everything. Don`t change that......Right ?
 

Uncle Ben

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But selling guns cash and carry to the unknown will fix everything. Don`t change that......Right ?
Don't put words in my mouth. This is a complex problem with no easy solution. Even prison or mental health checks at the point of purchase will not stop mass shootings.

If someone wants a gun badly enough they're gonna get it. Just ask any thug on the street.
 

schuylaar

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What's wrong with dealing with the obvious?

How about starting with the fact that fucked up people can make some bad decisions. The people are the problem. Find solutions to fixing or getting rid of these people and you stop the nonsense. Dealing with the people should be the focus.

Continuing the dialog of blaming an inanimate object won't solve anything. This is nothing new, the nutty professor knows this, but it's in his personality to be divisive, he just can't resist.
we have two choices..control the object or control the access to the object.
 

ricky1lung

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Don't put words in my mouth. This is a complex problem with no easy solution. Even prison or mental health checks at the point of purchase will not stop mass shootings.

If someone wants a gun badly enough they're gonna get it. Just ask any thug on the street.
You said it yourself.

Guns are too easy to get. Solve that and it's a step in the right direction.
 

Uncle Ben

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You said it yourself.

Guns are too easy to get. Solve that and it's a step in the right direction.
No I did not. This is what I said - https://www.rollitup.org/t/10-dead-20-wounded-oregon-college-shooting.885711/page-6

It's too fuckin' late to even think about confiscating guns. They're out there, and every one knows it but you. You really think any measure of gun control NOW is gonna have any real world impact regarding the reduction of homicides? :dunce:

Jeez, how many times do we have to have this gun control discussion based on feel good ideologies from lefties?
 

god1

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Our society gives a lot of lip service to mental health. But the reality is that our system is more geared toward protecting the rights of the "crazy" to be crazy as opposed to providing services to help them and their families. It's not a trivial problem. However, not exposing the issue for what it is enables the possibility of future events.

Not knowing somebody has a mental disorder allows that person to get a gun legally. No amount of gun legislation will prevent that access unless it's documentented that the person has a problem.

The president could have done more of a service for the country to speak to this issue if he had wanted to. Go figure. Talk about a distraction, he's probably just trying to shake off a little heat.
 
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