Padawanbater2
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We'll do an analysis after some of the votes come in
Is financial success more often a result of hard work or a consequence of circumstances?
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Circumstance always plays its roll. But financial habits are key. I'd say 80%+ how you control your finance is what makes or breaks you.
But rent a center, a new car and whatever Walmart is selling that week fucks it up for a good many people.
Bitching on the internet about being bested in a capitalistic country is also something that holds people back.
But rent a center, a new car and whatever Walmart is selling that week fucks it up for a good many people.
Bitching on the internet about being bested in a capitalistic country is also something that holds people back.
Uncle Ben
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"Analysis"? The only analysis needed is why you keep posting such dumb ass, attention getting threads.
Now.....if you don't know the answer to your baited question.....
You being a blamer for what comes down to personal choices, always playing The Victim, I doubt if you have the drive or smarts to be successful. It's more constructive pissing off your time behind a keyboard, right?
If any of you watch Gold Rush, Parker is a good example...
The kid absolutely works his ass off. He has been using heavy equipment all of his life so has a leg up in experience for his age. BUT.... If he didn't come from a family that 1. owned a gold mine. 2. owned heavy equipment 3. gave him several hundred thousand dollars startup money... would he be in the same position he is in now? Nope. There are plenty of people who work their fingers to the bone and all they have to show for it are bony fingers. Circumstances and luck will play a larger roll in success than hard work in a lot of cases. Fortunately, those who truly make it from hardwork alone inspire others.
The kid absolutely works his ass off. He has been using heavy equipment all of his life so has a leg up in experience for his age. BUT.... If he didn't come from a family that 1. owned a gold mine. 2. owned heavy equipment 3. gave him several hundred thousand dollars startup money... would he be in the same position he is in now? Nope. There are plenty of people who work their fingers to the bone and all they have to show for it are bony fingers. Circumstances and luck will play a larger roll in success than hard work in a lot of cases. Fortunately, those who truly make it from hardwork alone inspire others.
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ChesusRice
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Bullshit
Its all about hard work. I know a guy who is a multi millionaire and isn't even 40 yet. And it has nothing to do with the 36 million dollars his father gave him and his sister.
Lol
So all those guys working for him are brokes with nothing but bone fingers?
Well, I guess it is a matter of the definition of success? Parker made 3 mil which basically makes him wealthy. The other guys made 60-80k.... Parker could retire tomorrow if he managed his money well, go buy a house and a brand new vehicle and live decently the rest of his life. None of his workers could.
Uncle Ben
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Couple of guys out of west Texas who didn't have a pot to piss in, BUT made their own "circumstances", are now multi-millionaires and have a television show helping young entrepreneurs with start up money and counseling. If you don't know who or what they were and now are, watch this short video. West Texas Investors Club
"We believe in the product. We just don't believe in you."
Gotta luv it
"We believe in the product. We just don't believe in you."
Gotta luv it
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bravedave
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Hard work is sometimes thwarted by liberal mindsets. Twice I have been told to slow down. First time in a blue color, union shop and the second as a white color professional in a University setting. They drag you down, man.
Here we can surmise that the OP was neither lucky nor does he work hard so I assume he wants to steal from the lucky, first. Most of the "lucky" probably were related to or supported someone who worked hard...that person should be able to do what he/she wishes with the $ he/she worked for and that can be providing for family and friends.
Here we can surmise that the OP was neither lucky nor does he work hard so I assume he wants to steal from the lucky, first. Most of the "lucky" probably were related to or supported someone who worked hard...that person should be able to do what he/she wishes with the $ he/she worked for and that can be providing for family and friends.
ginwilly
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I think hard work is important, but a good plan and a little luck go a long way. You can dig ditches all day and get nowhere. You can contract ditch digging jobs and hire people to do it for you and make bank. In that case the ones doing the hard work are making others successful.
But yeah, I've never met a successful person that only works 40hrs/week or less. Hell, most doctors work 100 hrs, but they are the evil 1% and we need to take their money because 7-12 years of college and working 100 hrs/week doesn't mean they earn it, they are just taking from everyone else.
Same experience when I was a teen working a warehouse job. I thought I would work hard and impress people. I was told to slow down and when I was ahead with my work I had to help others catch up. You got punished for doing more work with more work. You got rewarded doing less work by having less work to do. It was definitely motivation to go to college. I have never been wired like that.
torontoke
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Hard work without opportunity just makes others rich.
A majority of the wealthiest people were handed money or their opportunity to hoard it.
Then there's the group that has no conscience about making profit regardless if their products are worth anything or if their customers can afford it.
Smart people don't use their hands to make money, they use someone else's.
A majority of the wealthiest people were handed money or their opportunity to hoard it.
Then there's the group that has no conscience about making profit regardless if their products are worth anything or if their customers can afford it.
Smart people don't use their hands to make money, they use someone else's.
qwizoking
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I think hard work is important, but a good plan and a little luck go a long way. You can dig ditches all day and get nowhere. You can contract ditch digging jobs and hire people to do it for you and make bank. In that case the ones doing the hard work are making others successful.
thats part of the intelligence factor.
and why manual labor, construction etc has more business owners than any other field. like the poster above said. dont do the work, contract others. dont be a ho, be a pimp. dont sell weed fpr someone, grow it..etc
as you should have learned..working less while still achieving the end goal is the idea.
But yeah, I've never met a successful person that only works 40hrs/week or less. Hell, most doctors work 100 hrs, but they are the evil 1% and we need to take their money because 7-12 years of college and working 100 hrs/week doesn't mean they earn it, they are just taking from everyone else.
anyone can do that. i did that. why is it taking from others. a decade of college and then you get hit with a 20 hr shift, or various pains of the field. id hardly say it was taking from others. unless you mean grants and possibly financial aid if no scholarship
unless that was sarcastic.
thats part of the intelligence factor.
and why manual labor, construction etc has more business owners than any other field. like the poster above said. dont do the work, contract others. dont be a ho, be a pimp. dont sell weed fpr someone, grow it..etc
as you should have learned..working less while still achieving the end goal is the idea.
But yeah, I've never met a successful person that only works 40hrs/week or less. Hell, most doctors work 100 hrs, but they are the evil 1% and we need to take their money because 7-12 years of college and working 100 hrs/week doesn't mean they earn it, they are just taking from everyone else.
anyone can do that. i did that. why is it taking from others. a decade of college and then you get hit with a 20 hr shift, or various pains of the field. id hardly say it was taking from others. unless you mean grants and possibly financial aid if no scholarship
unless that was sarcastic.
ginwilly
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RIU needs a sarcasm font.
I was alluding to the "eat the rich" crowd that thinks a doctor working crazy hours saving lives should be lumped in with wallstreet execs because somehow the more a person makes, it means it's coming out of some poor person's pocket.
torontoke
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Doctors and lawyers are usually the offspring of the decade priors drs and lawyers. They are usually the only ones that can afford the schooling required. And the reason that most doctors don't even want to be drs and it shows.
People in general are quite dumb and will complain about waiting an hour to see a Dr but will gladly pay 200$ to go see an entertainer play a sport or sing songs.
Priorities and expectation play a role here aswell.
People in general are quite dumb and will complain about waiting an hour to see a Dr but will gladly pay 200$ to go see an entertainer play a sport or sing songs.
Priorities and expectation play a role here aswell.
Yes Ginwilly, many times the hard worker is the one who is "punished for it". You finish your work then go do someone else's work and you are both making the same wages.