Stephenj37826
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Well I have seen the spyder x and it is in the 1300s umols park and around ~650 watts. It's 2 umol/j exactly I remember that much.
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Stephenj37826
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I'm not on a high horse.... Defending myself in MY thread and all of the sudden I'm somehow a bad guy...... Seriously dude I'm not sure why you have such a hard on for me but it's getting old.
Greengenes707
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Have you used an AT600? Have you tested one in a lab? Have you ever even touched one??
Then why bring it up. It is a grow journal thread in a public forum...and not even your grow. I have more experience with all these lights then you and will speak up when I hear some hot air blowing...specially by a manufacture. I don't need more bad rep for led's. I'm still a GROWER here...one that SHOW and SHARE HIS OWN RESULTS. Something you are not.
So keep it true, fair, and transparent, and you won't have to worry about being corrected all the time.
I'm out
Stephenj37826
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So you are saying I'm full of it huh. So what is the PPF of the at600?
PSUAGRO.
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Uh huh.......thought the draw was lower as stated in the crappy video? Don't feel like watching it again
5 percent loss with those thick glass secondary lenses? Really? Lol........failed to mention what those #s your getting by tightening the angle does, still can cover a 5x5in flower like a thouie?
Same results means same results to me== maybe our math is different
I wanna see some pics
Stephenj37826
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The case is white the fixture is bigger as well. It's over 1300 umol Spectrum is warm white LEDs with a 3or4 to 1 660nm red.Uh huh.......thought the draw was lower as stated in the crappy video? Don't feel like watching it again
5 percent loss with those thick glass secondary lenses? Really? Lol........failed to mention what those #s your getting by tightening the angle does, still can cover a 5x5in flower like a thouie?
Same results means same results to me== maybe our math is different
I wanna see some pics
Stephenj37826
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It covers a 5x5 @ about 30"-32" mounting height.Uh huh.......thought the draw was lower as stated in the crappy video? Don't feel like watching it again
5 percent loss with those thick glass secondary lenses? Really? Lol........failed to mention what those #s your getting by tightening the angle does, still can cover a 5x5in flower like a thouie?
Same results means same results to me== maybe our math is different
I wanna see some pics
Greengenes707
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Oh and there is a HUGE THING CALLED REAL WORLD REULTS. Hell even a test grow would be something...but there is none for your lights, yet you try and talk shit on a fully developed lighting system that has proven results for years in many many growers hands of all capabilities. One that is 4 years old too and still hangs with the top bin COBS in real world grows because it is a fully developed lighting system.
So how much does the the 3500k spectrum make up for??? how do you know that?? What proof do you have of it??Why haven't you tested the side by side your self before making these claims?
After what lens losses...calculated or actually measured in a sphere? Ya, Ya...your working on it. Well shut up till you have it and if you do have it...fucking show it.
How did you come to the 3500K spectrum??? did you test others? how many others? what were the results of them? Did you have the potency tested?
So again...get off your theory high horse. You have taken what you learned from what others have done...to profit from and have really given nothing back and I won't sit quietly. Go cry that I called you out.
Simply stick to ..."this is what my light can do" and there would be no issue and I would let you carry in your theory world.
And by no fan...you mean no fan but the inline...check yourself before you wreck yourself dude.
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Stephenj37826
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No fan in the wattage stated dude. Also I'm not knocking the at600 or any other light for that matter.
Greengenes707
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So it's passive?
Actually you did try and knock down the at600, and others.
SO AGAIN...where are the real world results from your lights???? And I mean finished, dried, trimmmed, and tested results
Stephenj37826
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How is that maybe you misunderstood. I fully believe the at600 bml spyder 1200 and others are 1000 watt replacements. Just saying......
Also just say it then. You think my light is inferior to those mentioned and it will be settled. The LORD has spoken lmao.
is the maximizer a passively cooled light system ?
Greengenes707
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Still waiting on results...or you to admit there an't any. That will get me to leave. Just saying...
And you avoid the passive question?? is it or not? You think I don't see you trying to deflect the real questions?
And you avoid the passive question?? is it or not? You think I don't see you trying to deflect the real questions?
Stephenj37826
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Yes and no lol. There is no fans but it requires a duct fan to stay cool. It's like the cxb-8. Air cooled like a magnum or similar. All waste heat can be removed from the grow environment through 6" duct work. Great for sealed environments for sure. 70 cfm is required.
PSUAGRO.
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Show me a ^chart^ so we can compare and then I'll shut up
Still waiting on some bml spider x pics too
Stephenj37826
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Well no there is not a finished Grow Journal with this cxb3590 3500k CD in led light running at 2.1A. I already answered it on the show as well it requires a fan with 70cfm. Pretty sure I can run a 6" hyperfan on low alot cheaper than I can Ac the the extra heat out. If you are exchanging air then the fan is already running just routing it through the light then out doesn't cost any additional wattage......... Besides the light isn't even for sale yet.
Stephenj37826
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Why would you think I have pics because I said I saw it. You'll see when it is released that I'm right.
stop bullshitting, IT is passively cooled as It has NO fans onboard, it requires grow room cooling to keep it cool.
so if your grow room cooling fails this light is toast. Considering how little energy it takes to cool a well designed lamp with fans to keep them safely operational, your just ducking heat management responsibility.
if you want real stats you need to add the extra energy needed to keep the unit cool. I understand your thesis (integrate with grow room cooling for higher net cooling efficiency), but you still have to account for that.
Greengenes707
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I asked about any of the lights.
Whatever your selling should have some proven results right???
And if you're not exchanging it...it's a cost. Or if you have a whole warehouse of them...it's a cost. So when I said...
Why try and deflect it. The unit needs a fan.
Showing all the facts is what we call be transparent. I wouldn't even call you opaque.
Stephenj37826
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The unit has built in thermal cutoffs. So no cooling no light. Also I am not trying to dodge the fact it requires a fan rather I was trying to relay how much wattage was actually driving the cobs.