cool its safe ...
CXB-8 Grow Journal
- Thread starter Stephenj37826
- Start date
-
- Tags
- cxb-8 johnson grow lights
PSUAGRO.
Well-Known Member
It's she pretty?...........Lol, I know your right about ww/dr because I saw that pic too....
let's see that maximizer 5x5 footprint chart braaaaaah
Stephenj37826
Well-Known Member
I don't have it but a third party is testing the light with a radiospectrometer in Jan. Also it's same as cxb-8 spread wise just more intense. I don't even have one here or I'd test it myself. There is one addition to the maximizer that is super exciting that I'll do info on at launch. I'll definitely give a shout out to rui when I'm on the show again. I was so jet lagged and tired I didn't have any thoughts going in my head I was just answering questions. I'd been up for over 24 hrs at that point. To much for me lol.
littlejacob
Well-Known Member
Bonjour
Does your light have only one plug for the 6" duct?
Or is there two like on hodded reflector to be able to plug a carbon filter?
CU
Does your light have only one plug for the 6" duct?
Or is there two like on hodded reflector to be able to plug a carbon filter?
CU
Stephenj37826
Well-Known Member
PSUAGRO.
Well-Known Member
I hear you, it pissed me off............still don't think this will be a 1k swap, but show us anyways.
Next time you claim something, have data/testing to back it up.....like gg did with the at600 run.
Are you sealing the internals electronics? What drivers are you using?
Stephenj37826
Well-Known Member
Hlg series meanwells
ttystikk
Well-Known Member
It's amusing how hard some people will try to bust your balls over a lighting system you've been completely transparent about. Testing? As if there hasn't been enough done already to prove these combinations of chips and drivers?
The haters just make themselves look bad.
I get it; some of your lights run less efficiently than others, to hit a performance vs price point that makes sense in some situations and perhaps not others. Isn't that the point of choices?!
Isn't that for the buyer to decide, as opposed to a peanut gallery with a rather obvious motive for bashing your gear?
nogod_
Well-Known Member
I respectfully disagree with this entire argument (both sides). I don't think one side by side affords us any certainty with regard to the performance of either fixture. At all.
None.
To assume anything based on data from one controlled run is reckless.
But I also wouldn't buy Stevens fixture, or any other prefab for that matter. I don't think you can build&sell one for cheap enough for anyone to justify purchasing this over any of the cheaper options out there [let alone replacing perfectly good fixtures to save on energy].
$1700 for 225 parwatts. You'll never see a favorable ROI spending $7.55/parwatt. You barely see it spending $3.
Maybe when we see the AT600 beat the pants off HPS in a temperature controlled grow room with 100 different runs of 10 different strains at 10 different ambient temps, then we can start to feel comfortable making assertions.
At this point the best we can do is be honest about what's under the hood. And Steven certainly is. Just lose the 1000w replacement BS.
None.
To assume anything based on data from one controlled run is reckless.
But I also wouldn't buy Stevens fixture, or any other prefab for that matter. I don't think you can build&sell one for cheap enough for anyone to justify purchasing this over any of the cheaper options out there [let alone replacing perfectly good fixtures to save on energy].
$1700 for 225 parwatts. You'll never see a favorable ROI spending $7.55/parwatt. You barely see it spending $3.
Maybe when we see the AT600 beat the pants off HPS in a temperature controlled grow room with 100 different runs of 10 different strains at 10 different ambient temps, then we can start to feel comfortable making assertions.
At this point the best we can do is be honest about what's under the hood. And Steven certainly is. Just lose the 1000w replacement BS.
PSUAGRO.
Well-Known Member
Oh do please show me ANY run/test with the maximizer? ^STEVEN himself claimed on the show that it was a 1000w swap, so it was legitimate part of our discussion...
nogod_
Well-Known Member
Stephenj37826
Well-Known Member
I'm assuming watt for watt correct lol.Results shouldn't be so different than the PLC CXB 300
PSUAGRO.
Well-Known Member
you don't get it, it's not about hating............it's about stating a 1000w hps swap without any PROOF in his specific SYSTEM, don't care if you find it amusing ...............you can jot this down next to mag ballast losses if you want,lol
yeah, because they have identical ppf/w and LER right?Results shouldn't be so different than the PLC CXB 300
everyone knows how much I love assumptions around here
I have no horse in this cob race, I'm out and good luck in your venture
PicklesRus
Well-Known Member
The way I read what you said, I thought it didn't require a fan, I remembered you said it was passive. But yeah it does require a fan, you shouldn't say it passive then, just say "our lights require less air cooling, which reduce your overall energy usage by combining your grow rooms cooling with your lighting."
Stephenj37826
Well-Known Member
I was trying to relay the power draw going to the cobs. In the video interview I plainly state it requires a minimum 70cfm cooling fan. They are just trying to bust my balls. These antics aren't new BTW. I assure you I'm not trying to fool anyone and every beta user has been plainly told they need to use a centrifugal fan. This unit we are referring to isn't even for sale and there is no mention of it on my site and in the video that is also stated. When I actually release the product I will make sure to relay it requires a fan.......
I'm rather proud of my light myself. It would be different if i was using anything but the very best parts. I wasn't going to let this info out until launch but heck with it.
The maximizer isn't released because we are implementing a grow room control system into it. Each light will act as hub in this setup that monitors and controls co2 can raise and dim the Lights according to ambient light conditions co2 levels temperature anything. It can also raise and lower the lights to simulate sunrise and sunset. Also we are going to offer at launch dampers that are inline with the lights so that if exhaust heat is needed in the grow environment during colder months the controller will turn the damper to draw air from inside the grow environment and return it back into the grow environment. If the extra heat isn't needed then the controller will change the dampers so it draws air from outside of the grow environment through the lights and back outside the grow environment. It really is a nice well developed controller system with a good price. This controller also works with a double ended hid system and can control any lighting system down to a mag ballast. It controls your co2 devices as well. The system has daylight sensors for greenhouse as well. So many things this controller can do.
Once again sorry for the confusion.
Last edited:
littlejacob
Well-Known Member
Bonjour
This sounds really cool...it could be a great improvement for cobs and crops!
I would like to be better with electronic and computer to use an arduino!
CU
This sounds really cool...it could be a great improvement for cobs and crops!
I would like to be better with electronic and computer to use an arduino!
CU
Stephenj37826
Well-Known Member
DAY 31 OF FLOWER
Kept the same regimen for the most part. Nute, nute, water. Didn't see a major flower increase but tough to tell cause hadn't looked w/ new yrs eve prep and production biz stuff for others new yrs events.
All is well, unfortunately an unrelated event that was not good for the start of the year, took an equip loss of $7k in a robbery--has nothing to do w/ grow whatsoever or grow related equip--so for 14 hrs they stayed locked up and everything was consistent during that time as far as temps and humidity.
That de-hum got it's workout tho, producing about 2 gal of agua in an 18 hr period. Also note that a veg room shares the same air space, which contributes to the de-hum workout.
Gonna thin and take pics manana and compare them to a week ago for analysis.
Approx 2 wks left of nute, then flushing begins.
Lemme know whatcha y'all think
Kept the same regimen for the most part. Nute, nute, water. Didn't see a major flower increase but tough to tell cause hadn't looked w/ new yrs eve prep and production biz stuff for others new yrs events.
All is well, unfortunately an unrelated event that was not good for the start of the year, took an equip loss of $7k in a robbery--has nothing to do w/ grow whatsoever or grow related equip--so for 14 hrs they stayed locked up and everything was consistent during that time as far as temps and humidity.
That de-hum got it's workout tho, producing about 2 gal of agua in an 18 hr period. Also note that a veg room shares the same air space, which contributes to the de-hum workout.
Gonna thin and take pics manana and compare them to a week ago for analysis.
Approx 2 wks left of nute, then flushing begins.
Lemme know whatcha y'all think
Last edited:
Stephenj37826
Well-Known Member
Yeah it was his other rental business. San Bernardino area. Police totally understaffed there apparently. Not a nice place to visit.
ttystikk
Well-Known Member
I can go off and leave my home unlocked all day, and nothing would happen. I find that kind of community security worth the extra money to live here.