Compatak
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Now that's what I want my plants to look like... Lol..
Soft airy buds
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hondagrower420
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Oh. That guy called me an idiot. Fuck him.
I didn't see anything about soil, unless you mean the "get rid of excess water part"
Dude was talking out his ass.
Resinhound
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This is why I like pk 13/14 ,MPK and potassium sulphate without any other bullshit.
hondagrower420
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Thank you.
You said that you were pulling 10-15oz in 2 5 gal buckets. That's not shabby and all. I understand the airy bud thing being annoying tho.
Just for shits, what is the footprint of your canopy?
hondagrower420
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Yeah, I know a lot of ppl that run all these additives.
If you know when and how much of a said additive can make a huge difference.
I have used 13/14 during the first couple weeks of flower before. I could only narrow it down to a 3 week window and I didn't think it was cost effective.
I have slimmed down my nutes. I just like simple. And this is the most cost effective solution.
Let me say that I got the Floralicious+ for free, a bunch of it.
This run tested silica and the results were immediately apparent. My plants always would wilt towards the end of the light cycle. 4 or 5 runs all did it.
Added bulletproof Si and boom. My plants have literally not wilted once every.
When I say wilt I mean like droopy, looked overwatered. But only the last 3 hours before lights out. They would perk up about halfway thru the dark period.
Bulletproof So is sodium silicate. I'm pretty sure that is different than most silica additives.
Compatak
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With the two plants it's about 3 - 4 ft across and about 6 ft high. But I get a few stragglers coming up really tall then the rest average about 5 ft tall.
the pic you posted has a nice uniform top to it. That's what I'd like to see mine do.
hondagrower420
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That is completely genetics. I bent the main a little on 2 and topped 1.
I think it boils down to you genetics more than anything. I mean the 60rh is prolly not helping at all.
These plants are actually ripleys og x alien og.
I like og family of genetics. Always have super dense buds.
You said they were clones so, how does your product stack up against the others product?
nomofatum
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You read wrong, I said the range he was running was about right for soil (6.2-6.3) and that he needed to drop to 5.5-6.0 for hydro.
hondagrower420
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I think maybe you might need to raise you screens.
It looks like by the time you get out to the edge of the screen the middle has grown up.
Do you top a lot before you put up your screen?
How far is your screen?
2ANONYMOUS
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Its not what you give your plants as in additives it comes with experience
Experiment enjoy something that takes nothing to grow give them enough light a nutrients its not about hammering plants with everything its about keeping a plant with least amount of nutrients
People try to hard water to often and leach away most of the nutrients never really understood
So last year i made a simple soil rain water only out door
What i used was 40 percent compost 40 percent NEW top soil 10 precent grass clippings and 5 percent live worms and 5 percent cardboard worm food ( Starch worms go nuts over it }
and let mother nature water in ground plant and as for one in pot i watered with collected rain water
out door in soil plant vegged 4.5 months and flowered with no nutrients other then 2 top dressing of fresh grass clippings from lawn ,, same thing applies with the plant in pot and it grew healthy and big o nutrients added
Moral of the story is keep plants healthy stay away from all the hype of silica , or additives the plant will produce what its capable of end of story as long as you have all other factors balanced lighting , enviroment etc fnd a perfect soil recipe and better your self
And most importantly let the plant do its thing
Experiment enjoy something that takes nothing to grow give them enough light a nutrients its not about hammering plants with everything its about keeping a plant with least amount of nutrients
People try to hard water to often and leach away most of the nutrients never really understood
So last year i made a simple soil rain water only out door
What i used was 40 percent compost 40 percent NEW top soil 10 precent grass clippings and 5 percent live worms and 5 percent cardboard worm food ( Starch worms go nuts over it }
and let mother nature water in ground plant and as for one in pot i watered with collected rain water
out door in soil plant vegged 4.5 months and flowered with no nutrients other then 2 top dressing of fresh grass clippings from lawn ,, same thing applies with the plant in pot and it grew healthy and big o nutrients added
Moral of the story is keep plants healthy stay away from all the hype of silica , or additives the plant will produce what its capable of end of story as long as you have all other factors balanced lighting , enviroment etc fnd a perfect soil recipe and better your self
And most importantly let the plant do its thing
Compatak
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I really couldn't say. Where I live.... Not to many people talk about this subject. Lol... I cut my clones from my current grow at the end of the fist week of flower. As far as timing it works out well for me. I can say that about everyone that's tried it has really liked it and asked if I can find them some. Coarse I'll tell em "I'll find out for ya"
Yes I have two screens, one at about 3 ft from the floor and a second about 4 - 4.5 ft. The canopy is so uneven it's hard to judge exactly where they'll need to be when mature..
I top in about week 2 of veg. Otherwise they'll be 7 ft tall.
When I put them in flower I'll put the first screen a few in's above the plants.
hellmutt bones
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Im not sure if you scrogged the wright way but if you did all the tops would be the same size.
Thats when you flip to flower and you should trim the bottom of that plant so that nothing but branches would be visible.
Had you scrogged the wright way the tops would of been shorter thus giving you the opportunity to have the lights lower. Becase the lights are more than 4 ft away from the next other top.
Also by trimming everything under the screen you eliminate wasted energy that is used to swell up the tops and make them rock solid.
hondagrower420
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I don't Scrog but it doesn't seem that you are doing it right.
I would top multiple times and supercrop if I did decide to Scrog.
Is the airy-ness happening in multiple strains? That would rule out genetics.
If multiple strains are airy then you know It has to do with the environment.
Compatak
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I agree with you on the scrogging. I need to play around with that. I do trim the bottom but I know i'll need to trim the lower branches more than I have been.
ryan1918
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oh sorry about that
Compatak
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Yes, I have grown for the last two or three years with many different strains and every grow has been the same as far as the airy-ness.
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