Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas
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mr sunshine
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Yea the heights about the only thing that would be affected. The stability that comes from using your technique late instead of early is well worth the couple extra inches imo.. I'm not saying let the plant get huge I'm just saying give the plant a little bit of time and the side branches will come off the main and be able to hold more weight, instead of splitting low
Sativied
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I was referring to plants topped using UB topping style topping and not specifically your plants, but I just read the topic title again and see the 4 now
Lovely plant by the way, sexy leaves.I let it depend on the number of plants. If I grow 6 plants I like them to have at least 6 colas so I get 6x6 colas, as in 36, works well under 600watt. In a good run with the right strain that is a good way to get the max of the space. With 9 plants that would be 4 colas each obviously.
I topped some plants tomorrow... down to the bottom 3 sets of branches ending up with 6 colas
Before:
^About 4.5" tall, working on 7th node. 2 inch tall after topping.
After:
^Notice how the two in the center are still close to the stem and not in the way of the lowest two. Doesn't always work out evenly but with the occasional help of some wire, or pinching the longest 1, it works out fine.
I normally grow them a little larger, these are merely to test a bag of seed to confirm what it is (mixed up labels...), but what matters more to me is maturity. I prefer to top 'after' they showed sex during veg (which happens to work with what I grow, varies per variety), as when topping you also remove the part where most flower hormones accumulated. It doesn't delay the onset of flowering after topping (though if one would run 12/12 from start it would) it does delay the ability to determine sex during veg based on preflowers. If I hadn't topped these, I would have been able to determine the sex within a week or two tops. (Showing again, for the x-hundred of plants that 24hrs of light is best for vegging - and old T8 18w tubes still work fine for seedlings).
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Uncle Ben
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Whatever's on the shelf. Seriously, I have a dozen including individual salts like ammonium sulfate, potassium sulfate, potassium nitrate, etc. Dyna-Gro is a great product and and a good value.
Sativied
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Nah, can't put that genie back in the bottle. Coffeeshops are legal (they got permits), growing and supplying is not. That is still an ongoing battle between local governments (city, county) and the national government.
In Amsterdam a pro cannabis (-shops, but also want legal supply) party is leading since last year. The shops that were closed were too close to a school, or in the postal code 1012, which is pretty much the red light district. Project 2012 (cleaning up the RLD, wanting to make it the socalled entrance of the centre) was initiated by a predecessor. The current leading party wants to end the closing of shops. About 15 more were still scheduled to close. The mayor agrees for now, but is waiting for a ruling from a judge to see if they can end the closing of shops without previously closed shops suing the city. They can probably because the closing usually comes down to simply not renewing the already temporary permit.
I was in Amsterdam new year's eve, and did notice some more shops closed (like the popular shop Baba) but, like others did, they will reopen at a different location. The reason they want to stop closing shops is because there aren't enough anymore, and many function more and more as take-away shops having removed tables and seats so less people have to wait outside in line. Effectively Amsterdam already isn't what it used to be. It's more about selling to tourists than having a safe relaxed spot to smoke and play foosball and snooker.
Ironically it's impossible to walk through that rdl area without being offered xtc etc over and over.
Several of the raided growshop owners appeared in court by now and in most cases the cops have to give/pay back everything they confiscated and destroyed (lack of proof they were selling to large scale growers). Judges aren't going along with the growshop law as expected. Just as ruling guilty but without penalty in many cases where growers and coffeeshop suppliers get raided. Our nr 1 activist recently won too:
http://news.asiaone.com/news/world/unrepentant-dutch-cannabis-grower-revels-court-win
A recent poll by a pro cannabis university professor, actively promoting legalization since 1996, showed again a large majority of the population wants legalization. A couple of months ago several large counties came with a joined report and recommendation to regulate cannabis grows by allowing growers to get licenses/permits to grow, similar to alcohol. Shortly before that the national government, initiated by a christan conservative party, in the house voted for "not" cooperating with any form of regulation desired by local governments and that proposal got a majority by 1 vote... 2 vote difference from being able to get a license to grow. That may sound bad to Canadians but is exactly what I want.
In the meantime coffeeshops complain it becomes harder and harder to buy quality as they used to deal with small growers who grow with love for the plant, but nowadays have to deal with large criminal organizations to get enough supply. Business is booming for those that aren't closed, but they are unhappy nonetheless.
And fuck Thailand... http://www.cannabisnewsnetwork.com/coffeeshop-pioneer-van-laarhoven-sentenced-to-103-years-in-thailand/
Uncle Ben
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Damn! Amsterdam and Thailand. How the tables have reversed. The U.S. is fast becoming the most tolerant country for cannabis medical and recreation use while the opposite is happening in other countries it seems. Colombia also has tough pot laws for example and if you value your head don't get caught with alcohol or pot in the Middle East. It's OK for the Taliban to finance their murderous ops with opium growing sales though. Fuck them and the camels they rode in on.
There are some that laugh but in Texas which HAD the reputation for being tough on cannabis, it's pretty much a citation. Judges are even tolerant on grow ops. The folks that get busted are those hauling tons from Mexico by fast boat or truck.
There are some that laugh but in Texas which HAD the reputation for being tough on cannabis, it's pretty much a citation. Judges are even tolerant on grow ops. The folks that get busted are those hauling tons from Mexico by fast boat or truck.
Purpsmagurps
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I was reading about your method when I first learned to grow, and by the time I could try it someone else expanded on your method, thanks ben
I dont think mainlining would be here if it wasnt for your work lol.
I dont think mainlining would be here if it wasnt for your work lol.
PopTop
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UB you are 1 of the few that I pay any attention to when reading about growing MJ. Tried your topping on my last plant, veg to 24" then flipped, it's a sativa (heavyweight seed fruit punch) which takes 12 weeks to mature instead of the 8 the seed grower claimed, got big colas and 5 ounces out of this grow. Did you know that the pic's you posted at the beginning of your thread are not visible anymore ? I don't know if it's the thread or me that can't see them maybe that's why you keep getting people asking about the true second node.
Uncle Ben
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As I said a dozen times before, this isn't my website. Once I lose the ability to edit (which is about a day after a post) I have no control over the content of RIU. A page or two back I posted photos. My text on the first page should be enough though.
WeeblesWobbles
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I'd kill for a decent mango...
Sativied
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One of the plants I posted a few posts above. About a week on 12/12, fast transitioning and flowering variety. Despite the stretch - largely from being a male, it turned out nice. Had 6 tops, hence the two wires to pull two branches apart a bit. 5 in pic above, stripping it down to 1 branch (plenty of pollen from1 branch). As you can see in the pic below it express whorled phyllotaxy at several nodes, so more leaves, yet as you can see above still such a nice open structure.
UncleBuck
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a mongo frog
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No man..... It seems that only Trump fans are worried about them.........
UncleBuck
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well ,sativied thinks that muslims should be banned from building mosques, or even doing upkeep on existing ones. and that muslim children should be forcible "reeducated". and then he calls me an extremist after spouting off his hitler-esque rhetoric.
so i like to keep up with the guy and see how he's doing from time to time. he pretty much stopped posting altogether after i drew all these bigoted little details out of him.
Sativied
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Never have been, never will be. I see you are still as simplistic...
a mongo frog
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Are you sure he thinks like that? I see him posting all the time in the gavita thread. Totally helping the op out. Cool to watch actually!!!!
UncleBuck
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really? because o have a whole shitload of quotes from you about how those scary muslims are so busy raping white girls, and sharia kaw-ing you, and going all jihad on nice white folks like yourself.
you even said they need to be banned from entering your country, they need to get sent back home, they need to stup building mosques, and their kids need to be reeducated.
kinda sounds like you are one scared little pussy.
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