***hermies*** : Everything you need to know! Faqs

[Spliffer1]

If she's got orbs with no pistil hairs protruding, she's probably a hermie. Without pics, can't say for sure.
Personally, when I've found that early, I've never had any luck with just knocking them off- they always seem to make more- lots more. Depending on your situation, you may want to try it, and let her finish. By situation, I mean, was this the only seed you have, or are you cutting from a mother and have plenty more? Is this the only plant in your flower room, or is it going to pollinate 30 others if you let it finish? Etc. to weigh out the risks.
I've encountered that before, and will immediately knock off what I see, to keep it from indiscriminately pollinating anything else in the room. Then, through process of elimination, I identify where the problem started. Usually, when I get one that hermies that early, it's a genetic thing, and the mother carries the characteristic, and all of the clones I've taken are subject to do the same. I have found, that feminized seeds seem to be bit more unstable than regular seeds, and have produced more hermies, for me.
ENVIROMENTAL CONDITIONS, I firmly believe, are the no. 1 cause of hermies! i.e., temps (very big thing- room temp does not = canopy temp!!!!!), nutes/feeding regimen, water quality, - anything that will stress the flowering plants, can cause hermies.
As Mad_Prophessor mentioned earlier on, they will all grow a banana or two. It may be buried up in there so deep, you'll likely never find it, but it's there. But, in my experience anyway, it's usually the lower branches, and not until towards the end of the flowering cycle. Most of these are benign, and don't pollinate anything. Some breeds will throw bananas like a monkey if they flower a few days to a week longer than what it's supposed to, but don't pollinate anything. I have no clue what that's about.
Keeping in mind, this has just been my personal experience.
Hope some of this babble has helped

 

[Jimmy Sparkle]

Hermaphrotism is a genetic issue from when and how the seed was made. I disagree on environmental factors. Seed breeders are getting lazy and greedy and are not putting out a premium product but they sure will charge a premium price... I may be wrong, but I sure would like to see a report on how environment / stress affects sex and hermaphroditsm. An actual report from a agriculture extension or state college.... Not urban legend.

 

[Spliffer1]

I will agree that some seed banks probably sell inferior products, and know for fact that genetics play part in it. As for the environmental factors and the science to back it up, - reports from an ag extension or state college, I don't spend a whole lot of time worrying about shit like that.
I know what works for me. And that's why it's stated above, "just my personal experience".

 

[Jimmy Sparkle]

I will agree that some seed banks probably sell inferior products, and know for fact that genetics play part in it. As for the environmental factors and the science to back it up, - reports from an ag extension or state college, I don't spend a whole lot of time worrying about shit like that.
I know what works for me. And that's why it's stated above, "just my personal experience".

That's cool man, I get it. I'm not trying to call B.s I just think the breeders like the fact that we blame ourselves think it was our "environment" or skills or lack thereof that caused a hermie or unsavory growth characteristics. As you said " you don't spend a lot of time worrying about shit like that " That is also cool however I do worry about shit like that. And since I do I've gotten real concrete answeres to my billions of questions. I despise urban legend because it does not benefit ANY of us new or seasoned growers. Don't even get me started on the horseshit Cervantes and the others blather about. I hope you have a blessed and abundant harvest my friend.

 

[ikeeee]

If she's got orbs with no pistil hairs protruding, she's probably a hermie. Without pics, can't say for sure.
Personally, when I've found that early, I've never had any luck with just knocking them off- they always seem to make more- lots more. Depending on your situation, you may want to try it, and let her finish. By situation, I mean, was this the only seed you have, or are you cutting from a mother and have plenty more? Is this the only plant in your flower room, or is it going to pollinate 30 others if you let it finish? Etc. to weigh out the risks.
I've encountered that before, and will immediately knock off what I see, to keep it from indiscriminately pollinating anything else in the room. Then, through process of elimination, I identify where the problem started. Usually, when I get one that hermies that early, it's a genetic thing, and the mother carries the characteristic, and all of the clones I've taken are subject to do the same. I have found, that feminized seeds seem to be bit more unstable than regular seeds, and have produced more hermies, for me.
ENVIROMENTAL CONDITIONS, I firmly believe, are the no. 1 cause of hermies! i.e., temps (very big thing- room temp does not = canopy temp!!!!!), nutes/feeding regimen, water quality, - anything that will stress the flowering plants, can cause hermies.
As Mad_Prophessor mentioned earlier on, they will all grow a banana or two. It may be buried up in there so deep, you'll likely never find it, but it's there. But, in my experience anyway, it's usually the lower branches, and not until towards the end of the flowering cycle. Most of these are benign, and don't pollinate anything. Some breeds will throw bananas like a monkey if they flower a few days to a week longer than what it's supposed to, but don't pollinate anything. I have no clue what that's about.
Keeping in mind, this has just been my personal experience.
Hope some of this babble has helped

well i have 4 in total but 3 are gorilla glue and one is the norther lights witch is the one that i spotted the ball on and i seen that you were saying the lower part of the plant mines had them key word had lol them on top but i flick them off and for my room its my walk in closet im using 3 cfl 2 cfl are 13/19/26w 60hz 400ma it gives me 1750 lumens thinking of getting 2 more and 2 set fluorescent light bars total of 4 fluorescent light there cool white i have a small fan that i have on only when my lights come on is that a bad thing????? and well i have 2 plants that i let veg for like 2 months witch one is the NL and one GG i super cropped my GG and my NL im just letting it grow but i did top it hopefully i get my phone to show you but like i said it gets pretty hot but i have the door open most of the time when i feel its hot but if i feel cold ill leave it close to worm up but idk im happy by the way there coming out btw when i first started i didnt have the light so they stretch out a little i know ill do a better job with my second set lol but let me know what ya think

 

[ikeeee]

i did for get to mentian that my NL has a deform fan leaf but to be honest it looks dope lol ill try to get my f phone to share with ya idk if that makes it a little help fool

 

[rob333]

A lot of misinformation. Seems like the OP was an enthusiastic newbie who skimmed a wikipedia entry or two, swiped a few pics off random grow sites and decided this gave him credibility enough to whip up a book report that would impress even newer newbies who wouldn't bother to do any research on their own.

no offense.

gotta love the copy and paste bandits

 

[ikeeee]

gotta love the copy and paste bandits

well i did do research bro but more info from other growers that have done this or seen this could help now im just saying i do a lot of reading cause its coming sence if your going to do something then read about it ill say but hey if there is ppl that would like to share what the experience then why not let some one know your mistakes =)

 

[rob333]

well i did do research bro but more info from other growers that have done this or seen this could help now im just saying i do a lot of reading cause its coming sence if your going to do something then read about it ill say but hey if there is ppl that would like to share what the experience then why not let some one know your mistakes =)

alot of people on riu have grown for years and have a pheno they trust these dayz u have some wicked breeders like barneys farm and me were u will not get a bad pheno 9xout of 10 hermies will come from the grower not the breeder due to shit grow rooms then they blame the breeder

 

[Spliffer1]

alot of people on riu have grown for years and have a pheno they trust these dayz u have some wicked breeders like barneys farm and me were u will not get a bad pheno 9xout of 10 hermies will come from the grower not the breeder due to shit grow rooms then they blame the breeder

Have to agree with you, there.
I have a couple of TGA strains that are as stable as they come. I've shared a couple with friends of like minded interests, only to hear an occasional moan about how it hermied on them. I still believe environmental issues are a major cause of hermies. That's only from my observations, though.

 

[ikeeee]

Have to agree with you, there.
I have a couple of TGA strains that are as stable as they come. I've shared a couple with friends of like minded interests, only to hear an occasional moan about how it hermied on them. I still believe environmental issues are a major cause of hermies. That's only from my observations, though.

well bad new more pop up n i think another plant is doing the same fuck im just going to keep a good eye on them or should i find a new place for them
like maybe out side????

 

[Spliffer1]

well bad new more pop up n i think another plant is doing the same fuck im just going to keep a good eye on them or should i find a new place for them
like maybe out side????

rob333, what would be your advice, here? Aside from pulling the plant, I don't really have any advice for this.
ikeeee, maybe if she could be moved outside, she/he might not be able to pollinate your other plants. When I find one this early in the flower room, to the trash she goes. That's my go to, but one of the more experienced growers may have some better advice. Good luck!

 

[ikeeee]

rob333, what would be your advice, here? Aside from pulling the plant, I don't really have any advice for this.
ikeeee, maybe if she could be moved outside, she/he might not be able to pollinate your other plants. When I find one this early in the flower room, to the trash she goes. That's my go to, but one of the more experienced growers may have some better advice. Good luck!

dam thats the thing the bud are nice and coated in crystals well some what for been in 4 weeks into flowering
but idk i'm low key stressing about it

 

[RELPHY82]

I SEEN ALOT OF PEOPLE ASKING BOUT THIS SO I THOUGHT I WOULD GO OUT AND FIND SOME INFORMATION FOR NEWBIES AND PEOPLE WANTING TO KNOW THE INS AND OUT OF HERMIES

I HOPE THIS HAS HELPED EVERYONE THAT WAS UNSURE [/QUOTE]

My poor 24 K Gold all 3 hermied ! thanks for the info.

 

[Alienwidow]

dam thats the thing the bud are nice and coated in crystals well some what for been in 4 weeks into flowering
but idk i'm low key stressing about it

Seeds take a long time to form. Just watch the plants for them. Any male parts pick them off. If you do have seeds they will probably be few and theyll probably be soft seeds. Cutting at like week 7 of 8 is an option too, but id be sure you had a big problem happening before you did that. Like lots of seeds. Seeds can be plucked out with fiskars while the plant is growing, picked out when taking the plant down, and pulled out while manicuring the dried plant. Its not a reason to panic, but it is a reason to be a little stressed. Just keep a close eye out and id bet youll be just fine.

 

[ikeeee]

Seeds take a long time to form. Just watch the plants for them. Any male parts pick them off. If you do have seeds they will probably be few and theyll probably be soft seeds. Cutting at like week 7 of 8 is an option too, but id be sure you had a big problem happening before you did that. Like lots of seeds. Seeds can be plucked out with fiskars while the plant is growing, picked out when taking the plant down, and pulled out while manicuring the dried plant. Its not a reason to panic, but it is a reason to be a little stressed. Just keep a close eye out and id bet youll be just fine.

yea ive been doing that and i will tomorrow i will get my phone bk so ill up date pictures i also cut like my fan leaves excepted the four on top i left those on plant looks like they r getting more light and im hoping that helps my yield cus they look small i though it would get bigger and fatter but hey like i said first time im not really worried cause i have another set going and i know those will come out really good =) and thanks for every ones help not alot of ppl like sharing there technic but yea i will show ya pretty soon

 

[Tyliving]

Like the info here having a issue that has plagued my coop , had a blue dream haze from seed ended up being a male did damage in my space first to Pineapple Express and now I'm seein it on others that's 3 wks into flowering I also have new plants just turning should I shut down or remove all with hermie traits and clean space I'm stressing need help pics to follow when lights come on

 

[ukgrower87]

Hi here, had these in for 3 weeks now an still no pistils had the few pop out but not alot. Any ideas if this gonna hermie?

 

[jojo_qc]

I got a Peruvian indica unknown strain that turned hermie with about 30% male flower. I didn't realized it until it was about the time to harvest it. I don't know if this strain is naturally hermaphrodite or not but I fucked it up by switching from flowering to vegetative then flowering again... At the end, I had terribly low quality buds and yield (only 21gr a plant) but some people still like to smoke the grassy buds with low thc, a relax trip! It happened that this hermie pollinate my other plant, an Argentinian sativa unknown strain (again, I know!!!, but a friend of mine had bring them from a trip to south america hahaha), that produced many seeds too. I have just harvested 6 plants from that hybrid with a genetic of pure female sativa and pure hermaphrodite indica. The result is that 100% of the 6 seeds turned to be female at the preflowering then I found male flower after 4 weeks of vegetative state, 2 weeks of preflowering and 6 weeks of flowering. I have harvested after 8 weeks of flowering and only found 6-8 male flowers from two of the six plants. A few buds were pollinized, but 90% of sinsemelia crop. I think it didn't had the time to pollinize all the female buds because it was quite late during the flowering and there were only a few male flowers. At this point, I still don't know if it occurs because of the hermaphrodite genetic of one of its parents or just because the marijuana plant naturally tried to reproduce itself at the very last moment.

Here is the picture of my harvest for the first plant, which had a few male flower. The harvest is little, but the genetic of the pure strains used to create that hybrid are also weak I think, though, that was only my second experience growing cannabis!

 

[vhawk]

If you had a herme actually open up and release pollen what do you have to do to decontaminate the a grow tent? I can just imagine little pollen grains forever blowing around like anthrax spores.