Under Sanders, income and jobs would soar, economist says

Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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ttystikk said:
Yep; subsidize the destruction of America's middle class and then wonder why they won't be good little consumers and keep buying things?
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But they ARE buying things, at least here in Texas. :clap:

In general the middle class never grew out of the recession which is localized.... like Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis, all of Arkansas state, etc. In Texas and in particular, places like Houston, Dallas, Austin metroplex, the hill country, Lubbock, McAllen area....is booming. The "middle class" (not sure what that means) has lots of money and they are buying land, cars, houses at a record pace. My local city's lodging revenues, retail sales tax income paid to the County and City has gone up EVERY year for the last 15 years, even thru the recent "recession".

Slowest:
  • Cleveland, Ohio, at -3.9 percent;
  • the Detroit-Warren-Livonia area of Michigan at -3.7 percent;
  • Buffalo, N.Y., at -3.0 percent;
  • Pittsburgh, Pa., at -2.8 percent;
  • Providence, R.I./Mass., at 0.9 percent;
  • Rochester, N.Y., at 1.5 percent;
  • Milwaukee, Wis., at 4.3 percent;
After Raleigh, N.C., Texas dominated when it came to the fastest growing cities in the U.S. starting with Austin.
http://www.chron.com/national/article/Texas-pretty-much-dominated-the-fastest-growing-6735896.php

It appears more people took a Davy Crockett approach to their living situations this year - "You can all go to hell and I'm going to Texas."
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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Uncle Ben said:
But they ARE buying things, at least here in Texas. :clap:

In general the middle class never grew out of the recession which is localized.... like Baltimore, Detroit, St. Louis, all of Arkansas state, etc. In Texas and in particular, places like Houston, Dallas, Austin metroplex, the hill country, Lubbock, McAllen area....is booming. The "middle class" (not sure what that means) has lots of money and they are buying land, cars, houses at a record pace. My local city's lodging revenues, retail sales tax income paid to the County and City has gone up EVERY year for the last 15 years, even thru the recent "recession".

Slowest:
  • Cleveland, Ohio, at -3.9 percent;
  • the Detroit-Warren-Livonia area of Michigan at -3.7 percent;
  • Buffalo, N.Y., at -3.0 percent;
  • Pittsburgh, Pa., at -2.8 percent;
  • Providence, R.I./Mass., at 0.9 percent;
  • Rochester, N.Y., at 1.5 percent;
  • Milwaukee, Wis., at 4.3 percent;
After Raleigh, N.C., Texas dominated when it came to the fastest growing cities in the U.S. starting with Austin.
http://www.chron.com/national/article/Texas-pretty-much-dominated-the-fastest-growing-6735896.php

It appears more people took a Davy Crockett approach to their living situations this year - "You can all go to hell and I'm going to Texas."
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:wall: Who's middle class???

"Chinese individuals are also being actively encouraged to buy abroad by the government.

Thus far, Chinese individuals have been allowed to convert $50,000 into other currencies annually — though there are ways to skirt the regulation."

“With QDII2 in mind, within five years we might look back and think of the current levels of Chinese cross-border investment as quaint,” Andrew Taylor, co-CEO of Juwai.com, a website that helps Chinese to buy properties abroad, said to The Wall Street Journal in July.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-chinese-super-rich-are-about-to-flood-the-us-real-estate-market-2015-8

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinese-all-cash-buyers-of-us-homes-have-tripled-since-2005-2015-10-09


http://energy.gov/articles/energy-department-sells-historic-teapot-dome-oilfield
http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/26/news/companies/china-texas-oilfields/

I'm thinking Davy would have helped Sam Houston.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Uncle Ben said:
Really? Of course you did if you do what most folks, pay quarterly.

I use to do my taxes using Turbo Tax, got to be bullshit with the royalities, interest deductions, farm op, ag biz, depreciations here and there, just BS thanks to the God awful tax code. Between fighting with the wife and pissing off my time, it's much easier to hand all the crap over to HR Block. They REALLY are that good and easy to work with. Now, if you're thinking "well, you could have saved money". Kid's stuff. For starts, money is not an issue anymore....we'll never spend all the liquid assets we have amassed so that's a moot point. My time is worth money as I still have a lot of projects and interests, most gardening some challenging like roasting coffee. Getting ready to fire up the Breville citrus juicer in a minute and juice some of my citrus. Delicious Moro blood oranges is one of them. If you Cali guys have never had a homegrown blood orange, you're missing one of life's treats. A properly ripened blood orange has burgundy juice, is a very rich deep orange flavor with an after taste of raspberry. ;)

UB
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so you can't do basic math or follow simple instructions as well as a liberal then.

got it.
 
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schuylaar

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Uncle Ben said:
1, If you "owe" nearly nothing, you're a financial dumbass who paid too much along the way. You just done let the feds use your money. ;)

2. Your deductions aren't shit compared to mine using farm writes offs, paying no sales tax on many ag related items that I also use for personal gardening.....

My IRS "mess" is almost an inch thick. The $328 I pay my tax preparer is well worth my money and personal freedom.
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so in other words, you're just one big cheat and fraud who endorses same.
 
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schuylaar

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Uncle Ben said:
Really? Of course you did if you do what most folks, pay quarterly.

I use to do my taxes using Turbo Tax, got to be bullshit with the royalities, interest deductions, farm op, ag biz, depreciations here and there, just BS thanks to the God awful tax code. Between fighting with the wife and pissing off my time, it's much easier to hand all the crap over to HR Block. They REALLY are that good and easy to work with. Now, if you're thinking "well, you could have saved money". Kid's stuff. For starts, money is not an issue anymore....we'll never spend all the liquid assets we have amassed so that's a moot point. My time is worth money as I still have a lot of projects and interests, most gardening some challenging like roasting coffee. Getting ready to fire up the Breville citrus juicer in a minute and juice some of my citrus. Delicious Moro blood oranges is one of them. If you Cali guys have never had a homegrown blood orange, you're missing one of life's treats. A properly ripened blood orange has burgundy juice, is a very rich deep orange flavor with an after taste of raspberry. ;)

UB
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bourgeoisie and narcissistic:roll:
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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UncleBuck said:
more people are going to colorado.
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Maybe, so?

What kind of people, losers who are feeding the corporate pot moguls? If you're moving to Colorado for the rec pot, you're just a bit fucked up and belong there. The more the merrier, all for the wrong reasons of course.

Texas has one if not the most healthy economies of any state in the nation, and we don't need a bunch of dopers moving in to make it happen. For example, folks are moving to the Austin area without a job or house. WithIn 2 weeks, they have both - a job paying $100,000/annual + and a nice house.

Immigration problems is a major challenge and a drain on everything.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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bearkat42 said:
We can play this game all day.

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Nothing like arguing economics with someone who can't figure out how to keep two quarters together for a whole day.

If you want to learn about money, go ask people who have it- then, watch what they do. It's easy to find them; they're in positions of power. In the Republican party, that means they are professionals at screwing over their base.
 
bearkat42

bearkat42

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ttystikk said:
Nothing like arguing economics with someone who can't figure out how to keep two quarters together for a whole day.

If you want to learn about money, go ask people who have it- then, watch what they do. It's easy to find them; they're in positions of power. In the Republican party, that means they are professionals at screwing over their base.
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And those idiots stay voting for them. You know, because they love their guns as much as they claim to hate abortion.
 
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