Clinton is the next POTUS
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ThickStemz
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I'm saying it is an estimate. Do you know what estimate means?
Its an extremely complex thing to compute the wealth of a very wealthy individual because it is hard to know all the details.
Jimdamick
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That's right. It didn't go down, it stayed the same, until the Republicans entered the picture led by GW Bush, increased the debt to what, by the time Obama had to pick up that bag of shit left by the GOP,at his feet.
What was that sum? Like a trillon fucking dollars?
Anyway
Mitt Romney railed on GOP presidential frontrunner Donald Trump in a major address Thursday, calling him a "phony," "fraud," "con man," and "fake."
"Let me put it plainly," he said. "If we Republicans choose Donald Trump as our nominee, the prospects for a safe and prosperous future are greatly diminished."
Romney's speech came as the Republican establishment grows increasingly worried about the growing possibility of a Trump nomination. It was delivered two days after Trump scored a dominating victory in the Super Tuesday series of primaries and caucuses.
Romney's speech — remarkable in that the party's most recent nominee was launching an unprecedented assault against its current frontrunner — went after Trump's business history, policy proposals, and fitness for office.
Listing many of Trump's previous businesses, like Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, and the controversial Trump University, Romney said Trump wasn't a "business genius."
After then speaking about a remark Trump made on "60 Minutes," in which Trump said the US should let ISIS overthrow Syrian President Bashar Assad, Romney called Trump's foreign policy "reckless."
"Donald Trump tells us that he is very, very smart," Romney said. "I'm afraid that when it comes to foreign policy he is very, very not smart."
"Here's what I know: Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud," Romney said.
"His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University," he continued. "He's playing the American public for suckers. He gets a free ride to the White House, and all we get is a lousy hat."
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ThaMagnificent
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its funny hearing liberals bash bush and the debt when they enjoyed it so much they voted in a guy who increased it more than all previous presidents combined.
Padawanbater2
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Bush cut taxes for the rich, crashed the global economy and got America into Iraq and Afghanistan
Obama cleaned house when he got into office and reduced the deficit by more than any other president in history, and finished what Bush couldn't with two whole terms; killed Osama Bin Laden
Furthermore, it's the tax and economic policies you support that increase the national deficit/debt
bearkat42
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Are we better off than we were 8 years ago?
Fogdog
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Complete fact check fail.
Complete wingnut made up shit.
Pick one of those categories and prove me wrong using facts.
But you won't because you can't.
Fogdog
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Dumbass. Bush ran up a deficit, ballooned the national debt and a Democrat was called in to fix it. Nobody can decrease the debt until the deficit goes back to the surplus we enjoyed under Bill Clinton. Trump wants to go back to Bush era deficits.
so I guess she won't be needing to pay back any of that campaign donorship?
..and if she were a real leader?
NLXSK1
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You keep saying there was a surplus under clinton but the debt still increased? How does that work?Dumbass. Bush ran up a deficit, ballooned the national debt and a Democrat was called in to fix it. Nobody can decrease the debt until the deficit goes back to the surplus we enjoyed under Bill Clinton. Trump wants to go back to Bush era deficits.
Jimdamick
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Please read the facts, not some shit made up by some people that are Republican twits, that makes up crap to serve their purpose.
The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton
- By Brooks Jackson
- Posted on February 3, 2008 | Updated on February 11, 2008
Q: During the Clinton administration was the federal budget balanced? Was the federal deficit erased?
A: Yes to both questions, whether you count Social Security or not.
FULL ANSWER
This chart, based on historical figures from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, shows the total deficit or surplus for each fiscal year from 1990 through 2006. Keep in mind that fiscal years begin Oct. 1, so the first year that can be counted as a Clinton year is fiscal 1994. The appropriations bills for fiscal years 1990 through 1993 were signed by Bill Clinton’s predecessor, George H.W. Bush. Fiscal 2002 is the first for which President George W. Bush signed the appropriations bills, and the first to show the effect of his tax cuts.
Oh yea, by the way, do you notice when the country STARTED TO GO DOWN THE SHITTER? I wonder who was President then? Take a guess.
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NLXSK1
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"Please read the facts, not some shit made up by some people that are Republican twits, that makes up crap to serve their purpose."
I said the DEBT went up. Meaning we owed more money year after year.
That is not some made up shit, it is the facts.
Take a moment and imprint that cause it is the truth.
I said the DEBT went up. Meaning we owed more money year after year.
That is not some made up shit, it is the facts.
Take a moment and imprint that cause it is the truth.
Not GOP
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94 million Americans out of work
Defecit with China GROWS
Exports hit 5 year low
There you go. I named three
rkymtnman
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you are confusing debt with deficit/surplus.
congress passes a budget for X dollars. let's say 1Trillion. let's say clinton spent 800billion. so now there is a 200b surplus. if he spend 1.1T, then there would be a deficit of 100b.
the debt is still going up because let's say we only take in 900b vs the 1T budget. so we are constantly spending more than we take in.
NLXSK1
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I am not confusing anything. My statement was that the DEBT has gone up year after year regardless of who is in office. My point is that neither political party is helping the situation.
Not GOP
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Constantly spending way more than the insanely high budget
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-04/jim-rogers-there-s-a-100-probability-of-a-u-s-recession-within-a-year
rkymtnman
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you asked how it worked. i answered. if you werent' confused, why did you ask?
clinton did help the situation by spending less than he was budgeted. w did not by spending way more than he was budgeted. and obama got 3T worth of debt from iraq from w. thanks alot!
Not GOP
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Payrolls surge while wages drop, due to massive waves of illegal immigration, and Obamacare.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-04/payrolls-in-u-s-surge-while-wages-drop-in-mixed-jobs-report
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-04/payrolls-in-u-s-surge-while-wages-drop-in-mixed-jobs-report
rkymtnman
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see, this is the question you asked.