Best way to combat pythium and root rot in all hydroponic growing methods.

rkymtnman

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still evading the real questions, i see.

i've got some oceanfront property in iowa if you are interested? or did you spend all your money on o2 injection?
 

J Henry

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Well thanks for that J :). Not really sure what your trying to say but thanks and sorry if I'm being a dick as well, I've got a man cold and kinda cranky lol, but really what help is any of this? Everyone who grows hydro with flooded root zone knows the importance of O2 and if they don't have enough they add a chiller just as I have, when things go to shit. The O2 injection thing has been around for a long time your right and is anyone doing it ..... Nope lol, Not even you, so yes I guess I am done here..... It's kind of like " move along, nothing to see here". But what ever your trying to prove or accomplish, good luck!
I don’t think of you as a “dick” at all Budley, never did. Some folks on this forum are quiet vulgar I noticed, but the world of full of common vulgar people with hair triggers.

Thank you for participating in my thread and commenting. I have enjoyed our discussions immensely and understand you’re through and ready to move on now. Hope you get over your cold and get to feeling better soon. My wife says I get cranky too when I’m sick, but we get over it and we feel better.

Cheers

J
 

AlphaPhase

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If anyone is a salesman for the o2 grow air system, I would be willing to be a guinea pig and run 4k watts of testing and document my experience with the system :D I have 2x 40 gallon reservoirs, 1x 30 gallon and 2x 25 gallon. All ebb and flow and ebb and grow bongsmilie
 

AlphaPhase

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Nothing in my flower room utilizes any type of air in the reservoir, no air stone, no venturi, no water pump for circulation. Just a waterfall effect only when the ebb system timer is flooding into the control bucket or pumping water back to the res. It definitely would be a good experiment to add some DO to these gals.
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AlphaPhase

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i just use dutchmaster zone. 2mL per gallon. done.
I've used zone before, it worked well for a while but I felt like after a while pythium got immune to it or something, I switched it chlorine, then I switched to bennies and have had much more luck.
 

J Henry

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If anyone is a salesman for the o2 grow air system, I would be willing to be a guinea pig and run 4k watts of testing and document my experience with the system :D I have 2x 40 gallon reservoirs, 1x 30 gallon and 2x 25 gallon. All ebb and flow and ebb and grow bongsmilie
Be pro active, a shaker and a mover and talk directly with the owner. Call O2Grow and by-pass the salesman. Tell the boss you are have time and you are willing to test his O2 Grow product at no charge. Ask the boss to send you an O2Grow rig, you are wiling to test it for him and see if it really works. I bet shipping will be free too and he may give it to you when you are fisisned testing it.

Do you have a DO Meter? He will probably send you one if you don't have one so you can test the DO his product produces which is the point.
Oxygen Research Group
19285 Highway 7
Excelsior, Minnesota 55331
Phone: 952-474-5820
J
 

AlphaPhase

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Nice drain to waste..:lol:
Recirculating! I don't like to waste any water in cali so drain to waste is out of the question. All water is used and none is wasted and I only use about 20 gallons a week for 18 semi-large 4' plants, can't beat that! These plants just hit day 31 of flower, only 39 days to go :)
 
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AlphaPhase

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Be pro active, a shaker and a mover and talk directly with the owner. Call O2Grow and by-pass the salesman. Tell the boss you are have time and you are willing to test his O2 Grow product at no charge. Ask the boss to send you an O2Grow rig, you are wiling to test it for him and see if it really works. I bet shipping will be free too and he may give it to you when you are fisisned testing it.

Do you have a DO Meter? He will probably send you one if you don't have one so you can test the DO his product produces which is the point.
Oxygen Research Group
19285 Highway 7
Excelsior, Minnesota 55331
Phone: 952-474-5820
J
Awesome! I will give him a call tomorrow! Would love to test the equipment out, I'm always playing around with things and tinkering and trying to get the most out of every grow and I know extra DO would be a nice benefit, not to mention if I don't have to worry about pythium in a highly oxygenated reservoir, that's a huge bonus
 

J Henry

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I've used zone before, it worked well for a while but I felt like after a while pythium got immune to it or something, I switched it chlorine, then I switched to bennies and have had much more luck.
Sounds like Pythium or something has infested you grow continuous, immune to everything you try. Maybe 2 gallons of chlorine will slow it down. If 2 gallons of chlorine won't kill the fungus there are other fungicides to try.

Have you tried Liquid Copper Fungicide http://www.homedepot.com/p/Southern-Ag-1-Pt-Liquid-Copper-Fungicide-100048940/100599149 It’s cheap, only $10/ pint at Home Depot and kills many fungal species.
Are you really sure this is a pythium disease?
J
 

J Henry

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Awesome! I will give him a call tomorrow! Would love to test the equipment out, I'm always playing around with things and tinkering and trying to get the most out of every grow and I know extra DO would be a nice benefit, not to mention if I don't have to worry about pythium in a highly oxygenated reservoir, that's a huge bonus
Don't worry, always be happy.
Let me know how it works out. The product should come with written operating instructions. Most manufacturers love to work with volunteers that are eager to help field test their products.
J
 

twistedwords

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Recirculating! I don't like to waste any water in cali so drain to waste is out of the question. All water is used and none is wasted and I only use about 20 gallons a week for 18 semi-large 4' plants, can't beat that! These plants just hit day 31 of flower, only 39 days to go :)

Got yeah I missed it with the ebb n flow timer, misread...Recirculation is the way to go and easier IMHO. Saves the back.
 

AlphaPhase

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Sounds like Pythium or something has infested you grow continuous, immune to everything you try. Maybe 2 gallons of chlorine will slow it down. If 2 gallons of chlorine won't kill the fungus there are other fungicides to try.

Have you tried Liquid Copper Fungicide http://www.homedepot.com/p/Southern-Ag-1-Pt-Liquid-Copper-Fungicide-100048940/100599149 It’s cheap, only $10/ pint at Home Depot and kills many fungal species.
Are you really sure this is a pythium disease?
J
I know it was some sort of fungus, not sure which one though, there are so many it's hard to say. I believe it was a water mold though. I brought out the big guns and used ridomil, a systemic fungicide, and it cleared up almost over night. Now the roots are healthy and the plants are back to growing well. I'm going to cull them but it was a nice experiment to see what works and if I what I was dealing with was a fungus, which it was, so there were some things I learned. What fungus, that's what I'd really like to know lol
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AlphaPhase

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Got yeah I missed it with the ebb n flow timer, misread...Recirculation is the way to go and easier IMHO. Saves the back.
You got that right! My back is so messed up, I just can't do any other type of growing even if I wanted to. I used to grow in organic soil for years, but lugging pots of dirt around sucks, not to mention hand watering. Was thinking about drain to waste coco on drippers but, nah I don't want to deal with that either. Ebb and flow grows just as well as other forms and saves so much time and energy 8-)
 

twistedwords

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You got that right! My back is so messed up, I just can't do any other type of growing even if I wanted to. I used to grow in organic soil for years, but lugging pots of dirt around sucks, not to mention hand watering. Was thinking about drain to waste coco on drippers but, nah I don't want to deal with that either. Ebb and flow grows just as well as other forms and saves so much time and energy 8-)

Been there done that as well. Today it is about efficiency and easiest possible. Less time spent the better.
 

twistedwords

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You got that right! My back is so messed up, I just can't do any other type of growing even if I wanted to. I used to grow in organic soil for years, but lugging pots of dirt around sucks, not to mention hand watering. Was thinking about drain to waste coco on drippers but, nah I don't want to deal with that either. Ebb and flow grows just as well as other forms and saves so much time and energy 8-)
where did you get those black buckets from, been looking for those as you can drain from the bottom?
 

AlphaPhase

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where did you get those black buckets from, been looking for those as you can drain from the bottom?
I use these, they are 2 gallon but I think they also make bigger ones.
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I also use this controller bucket to control the ebb and flow
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Very good system imo. I've tried the CAP brand system and it sucked. The hydrofarm system is excellent, I have 2 of them now and each one can handle up to 48 buckets I believe. You can also adjust the flood height unlike other systems and it also has a auto shut off valve which prevents flooding if something goes wrong with the water float valves.
 
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