$lick Grow/Bud Related Tips and Tricks

ForRealz

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"DIY COB$, Double Your HID Footprint and same/more PPFD for same KWH"

I learned this from reading @SupraSPL , @Growmau5 , and other bright fellows' posts here at RIU and elsewhere...

For a typical (1) 1000 watt HID (HPS/MH), you can double your footprint (from 4'x4' to 4'x8') for the same KWH your light is currently using by running (50) high bin Cree CXB3590 COBS @ .700 A passively cooled for 64% efficiency And still achieve equal or greater PPFD !!!

For a (1) DE bulb (5x5), by going to aforementioned COBs you could use 44% Less KWH/month or light 80% more space And achieve equal or greater PPFD...

ETA: That does not even take into consideration KWH used for cooling HID light, AC use, and/or RH control.
 
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Federson

Active Member
That is an interesting statement...it used to take 2tsp to down 1g with distilled white, takes 1tsp/g with ACV...

"we tested Bragg's ACV at 2.85 PH"
http://www.silvermedicine.org/apple-cider-vinegar.html
That's the thing about apple cider vinegar, the PH on it varries widely depending on the brand. Some ACV's go all the way up to a pH of 5. Distilled white vinegar on the otherhand will just about always have a pH of 2.4 unless they messed up while creating it. I keep distilled white vinegar on hand as a calibration fluid given it's consistent pH and since I already have it I use it as pH down as well.
 

ForRealz

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That's cool, respect! I appreciate you sharing your experience, that is what I was hoping this thread would be for...sharing tips.

I used to use Heinz Distilled White Vinegar but then when I was "soupstyle" I switched to Braggs ACV b/c it is organic and it really did take half as much for some reason (2tsp/gal vs 1tsp/gal using same calibrated PH pen).

Either way, Vinegar in either form still costs less than BS "PH Down" and def qualifies as $lick Tip that could help someone (even if neither you nor I created vinegar <-- LOL shoutout to future haters). Thank you!
 

hondagrower420

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Here's some tips.

Calcium nitrate

Magnesium sulfate

Potassium sulfate

Monopotassium phosphate

These are the some of the main salt compounds in hydro nutrients.

All of these are great booster to use during various growth stages. I use all of these salts at different times.

Or if you are really cheap you can make a grow/bloom mix to use as part of your base. So instead of using a grow/micro/bloom formula, you would use just the micro and make your own.

The salts listed above give you most of you macro nutes. N-P-K-Mg-Cal. Plus sulfur. And sulfur helps with aroma and resin production.

All those bloom boosters are just monopotassium phosphate.
 

hondagrower420

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Oh look some more slick tips. Once again aqquired from, you guessed it, a botany book.

Please just pick up a book.



Induced Resistance

(1) There is a diverse array of signals that stimulate IR.

(2) IR is a sensitization process that primes the plant for
more rapid deployment of defenses.

(3) When integrated into good agricultural practices, IR
can both enhance plant productivity and resistance to
disease.

(4) Has energetic costs


Types of induced resistance

1. Local acquired resistance (LAR)
2. Systemic acquired resistance (SAR)
3. Systemic gene silencing (SGS)
4. Induced systemic resistance (ISR)
5. Systemic wounding response (SWR)

Systemic Acquired Resistance

Controlled by salicylic acid (SA)
Broad resistance
More durable
Relies on the plants endogenous defenses
Classically effective against biotrophic pathogens

Chitosan

Chitosan is a plant defense booster derived through the breaking down of chitin found in shellfish and mullosks.
In general Chitosan can help improve the efficiency of a nutrient or fertilizer.
Chitosan will increase the quantity, size and shelf life of a harvest product. Chitosan is also effective at providing insect and disease control.
The chitosan molecule triggers a defence response within the plant, leading to the formation of physical and chemical barriers against invading pathogens.
Chitosan possesses a high growth stimulating efficacy combined with antifungal and antibacterial activity of systemic character. Chitosan cause no damage to the plant whatsoever.

Chitosan inhibits the reproduction of pathogens. Once applied either via foliar spray or through watering, it provides plant protection against fungal infection by rapid expression of a number of defense responses, including forming structural barriers at sites of attempted fungal attacks.
It also protects against insect attack by activating genes which produce protease inhibitors.
Lastly, chitosan stimulates the plants hormones responsible for root formation,stem growth, fruit formation and development.
In addition to promoting growth and protecting against attacks, using chitosan in a garden can help to improve the beneficial microbial activity of a growing medium.
This increase in microbial activity helps in conversion of nutrients to bio-available form. Chitosan improves the root system, allowing plants to absorb more nutrients from a medium.
We expect
Chitosan to become one of the top plant health and yield products as awareness of its value grows.

Salicylic Acid

The next additive in the this new class of Natural Plant Defenders is Salicylic Acid.
This specific plant molecule has two major functions. In the first it acts as a promoter letting the entire plant know (through the use of intercellular mechanisms) that pathogens are near.
The second way in which Salicylic Acid works is as an activator. It actually heightens the alarm signal a plant experiences. In plants, Salicylic Acid serves the function of ringing the alarm bell when a pathogenic organism begins to invade plant tissues.
A whole web of immunity-enhancing processes unfold after the plants are exposed to Salicylic Acid - when that initial alarm is rung.
A whole range of proteins and enzymes become activated as soon as Salicylic Acid is released and absorbed into plant cells.
Salicylic Acid also promotes DNA-binding proteins that initiate new protein synthesis.

Harpin Protein

The final additive we would like to discuss is the Harpin protein. Harpin, like the other SAR products on this handout,
acts by eliciting a complex natural defense mechanism in plants, analogous to a broad spectrum immune
response in animals. Harpin simultaneously enhances a plant's own growth systems and natural defense mechanisms
to ward off attacks by insects, common diseases and plant stresses.

Unlike Salicylic Acid or Chitosan, Harpin uses a protein for its main mode of action. It can be safely used in a
synergistic way with both Salicylic Acid and Chitosan. Harpin is a naturally occurring bacterial protein present in a
number of species of plant pathogenic bacteria. The first harpin protein was isolated from the bacterium Erwinia
amylovora. To sum up Harpin’s benefits: Along with its plant inducing immune system response, Harpin accelerates
plant development. It increases root and shoot biomass, early flowering, early fruit set, early fruit maturation, and
increases fruit number.

B1 Thiamine

Strengthens plant immune systems so they better stand up to disease and stress.
B1 activates Systemic Acquired Resistance (SAR)

Silicon

Silicon induces the SAR response and enables suberization (cork development in cell walls).

Using Chitosan and Salicylic Acid Together

Compared to Salicylic Acid, Chitosan is slower and less effective at inducing plant cell immunity; in combination
with a well formulated Salicylic Acid solution, chitosan has compounded effects as Salicylic Acid amplifies the
“alarm” triggered by the chitosan. The most powerful products always use both of these ingredients. Scorpion juice,
from Advanced Nutrients, is an example of a product that contains both Salicylic Acid and Chitosan. These two
additives were made for eachother: Chitosan backs up the Salicylic Acid solution in perfect harmony, while it feeds
reduced carbon and nitrogen to symbiotic microbes.

Ongoing scientific research suggests that using more than one method of activating SAR may employ all three of the plants transduction pathways and amplify the plant’s ability to resist pests and accelerate growth with reduced fertilizer and pesticide inputs.

http://www.greenhousegrower.com/crop...lp-themselves/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...57155469,d.cGU

What do you define as "help the plant"?
Stress never "helps the plant" but it redirects energy otherwise used for growth towards inducible defense mechanisms (i.e. secondary metabolite production like cannabinoids and terpenoids) and that may "help"
"Only Ornamental"
 

ForRealz

Well-Known Member
Here's some tips.

Calcium nitrate

Magnesium sulfate

Potassium sulfate

Monopotassium phosphate

These are the some of the main salt compounds in hydro nutrients.

All of these are great booster to use during various growth stages. I use all of these salts at different times.

Or if you are really cheap you can make a grow/bloom mix to use as part of your base. So instead of using a grow/micro/bloom formula, you would use just the micro and make your own.

The salts listed above give you most of you macro nutes. N-P-K-Mg-Cal. Plus sulfur. And sulfur helps with aroma and resin production.

All those bloom boosters are just monopotassium phosphate.
Please, do yourself a favor and read something worthwhile...

"When you use synthetic fertilizer, you are not only using natural gas and dangerous chemicals on your soil, but you are also using a fertilizer that has the same compounds found in military munition.



Nitrogen is abundant in our atmosphere but hard to find in soil. It is normally converted to soil availability by bacteria on the roots of leguminous plants, or by a strike of lightning. During the 20th century, scientists decided to combine nitrogen from the air with hydrogen at high temperature and pressure to create anhydrous ammonia (NH3). This is the basis for all synthetic nitrogen fertilizers as well as munitions used in warfare. Natural gas is used as the hydrogen source for the creation of synthetic fertilizers and accounts for 80 to 90% of the cost of fertilizer production. This means that in the conventional system of mass production farming, our ability to feed ourselves is dependent upon non-renewable fossil fuel.

Synthetic nitrogen fertilizer became popular in the U.S. after World War II when there was a large amount of leftover ammonium nitrate munitions. These leftovers were then used for agriculture. This spread of synthetic fertilizer still has many environmental consequences.

Although synthetic fertilizers are banned from USDA’s organic production standards, it is still used in large scale conventional food production. In 2010 alone, over 21 million tons of synthetic fertilizers were spread over farmland in America, covering about 1/8 of the continental land.

Synthetic Fertilizer Pollutes Water, Air, and Land:
Only a small amount of the nitrogen contained in the fertilizer is actually used by the plants. The rest of it runs off into waterways and causes massive damage to the ecology of water systems by creating massive “algal blooms”. These massive blooms can starve the water of oxygen and suffocate fish and other aquatic life, creating huge “dead zones”. In 2008, there were 405 dead zones in the ocean, while the Mississippi River fertilizes a dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico that changes in size from 3,000 to 8,000 square miles.

The runoff can also leach to groundwater and contaminate drinking water, causing widespread health hazards.

Soil bacteria can convert excess nitrates into nitrite ions. If ingested, these nitrites can get into the bloodstream and attach to hemoglobin molecules. This starve the body of oxygen and lead to fatal illnesses such as blue-baby syndrome. Adults and children who ingest nitrites can suffer from serious health problems. There were high levels of nitrates and nitrites found in 25,000 community wells that provided drinking water to 2/3 of the nation’s population. Nitrate-contaminated water is linked to many health problems including bladder and ovarian cancer, and urinary and kidney disorders.

These oxidized nitrates also contribute to the formation of smog. Nitrogen oxide also reacts with water in the air and can create acid rain.

Since synthetic fertilizers use non-renewable fossil fuels, the energy consumed to create these fertilizers could heat about 5.5 million Midwestern homes for an entire year.

Negative For Plants
Since the use of synthetic fertilization began in the 1940s, 4.7 billion acres of soil have been degraded worldwide. This leads to high rates of erosion and poor crop yields, and deforestation.

Synthetic fertilizers give plants in poor soils weak root systems. This makes them vulnerable to drought and disease, which subsequently leads to the need for an increase in irrigation and application of pesticides.

Soils that have synthetic fertilizer deteriorate and compact over time. This leads to the loss of their absorptive properties which can lead to erosion. Instead of absorbing into the soil, water runs off soil and into waterways, carrying with it more toxins.

The degradation of soil due to synthetic fertilizer creates an increasing cycle of dependence.

Using synthetic fertilizer is not good for the soil, your plants, the air, or the water. It is an unsustainable form of farming that was created by warfare companies who did not specialize in healthy food growth. Save your garden and avoid using this fake fertilizer to grow your plants."
http://www.realfarmacy.com/synthetic-fertilizer-contains-the-same-compounds-found-in-military-weapons/

ETA: Read a book you illiterate son of a bitch, step up your vocab! -Ludacris
 
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ForRealz

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I ve seen plenty of intelligent posts from you cats, any contributions would be greatly appreciated...please share any cool cannabis related tips or tricks as you see fit bongsmilie

@D_Urbmon @Amos Otis @calicat @needsomebeans @mucha_mota @greendiamond9 @natro.hydro @limonene @genuity @st0wandgrow @Sour_Patch_Seed_Bank @Mohican @guod @bassman999 @Lightgreen2k @Beemo @Al Yamoni @akhiymjames @Mad Hamish @JDGreen @elkamino @pnwmystery @luv2grow @littleflavio

ETA: Forgive me if Ive forgotten any cool cats but hope you make your way here! Thank you, with everyone's help this will be cool thread! Take care, ballers.
 
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mucha_mota

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new lesson. cheapie t5 has no trap door. now i have to gut the lamp from the tent, take it all apart, just to see what kinda ballast i need. i notice my other lamp. proper entry to the ballasts.
 

mucha_mota

Well-Known Member
& for coco.

garden gypsum (solution grade) way way better than any calmag product (like bontanicare or whatev). you mix it from dry product. maybe even sniff it up too ! :clap:

cheaper too $$.
 

ForRealz

Well-Known Member
& for coco.

garden gypsum (solution grade) way way better than any calmag product (like bontanicare or whatev). you mix it from dry product. maybe even sniff it up too ! :clap:

cheaper too $$.
Haha, hells ya, brotha, thanks for sharing my man! Gypsum great for loosening up heavy, clay-type soils also!
 

ForRealz

Well-Known Member
I ve seen plenty of intelligent posts from you cats, any contributions would be greatly appreciated...please share any cool cannabis related tips or tricks as you see fit bongsmilie

@D_Urbmon @Amos Otis @calicat @needsomebeans @greendiamond9 @natro.hydro @limonene @genuity @st0wandgrow @Sour_Patch_Seed_Bank @Mohican @guod @bassman999 @Lightgreen2k @Beemo @Al Yamoni @akhiymjames @Mad Hamish @JDGreen @elkamino @pnwmystery @luv2grow @littleflavio

ETA: Forgive me if Ive forgotten any cool cats but hope you make your way here! Thank you, with everyone's help this will be cool thread! Take care, ballers.
Testing, testing... One, Two.
Dont be some scary lil hoes...
Mic check, one, two...

@D_Urbmon @Amos Otis @calicat @needsomebeans @greendiamond9 @natro.hydro @limonene @genuity @st0wandgrow @Sour_Patch_Seed_Bank @Mohican @guod @bassman999 @Lightgreen2k @Beemo @Al Yamoni @akhiymjames @Mad Hamish @JDGreen @elkamino @pnwmystery @luv2grow @littleflavio
 

D_Urbmon

Well-Known Member
haha thanks for the compliment but I don't know shit lol. I K.I.S.S. I guess my tip is to Keep it stupid simple and don't fall for the snake oils and billion products. :)


only thing I know a little bit about is hash. :)
 
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