GOP Tax Plans Would Be the Largest Redistributions to the Rich in American History

MuyLocoNC

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Like I said, their services are over priced/valued. I guess you'll fucking understand when your health goes to hell and you have to sell the farm to pay for it. Healthcare needs a major overhauling and if you think its a wonderful thing then you've never had to use it.
And you couldn't be further from the truth. I had two back surgeries in the last five years and my out of pocket expenses for each were ridiculously low. Somewhere in the range of $3 to $4 thousand, all in.

Had them performed at one of the finest hospitals in the state, Duke. Surgeon is a nationally renowned neurosurgeon that had just moved to the area. Care couldn't have been better and both surgeries were 100% successful. Those people gave me a new lease on life and were kind, considerate and the picture of professionalism.

Grrr, those greedy bastards
 

abandonconflict

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And you couldn't be further from the truth. I had two back surgeries in the last five years and my out of pocket expenses for each were ridiculously low. Somewhere in the range of $3 to $4 thousand, all in.

Had them performed at one of the finest hospitals in the state, Duke. Surgeon is a nationally renowned neurosurgeon that had just moved to the area. Care couldn't have been better and both surgeries were 100% successful. Those people gave me a new lease on life and were kind, considerate and the picture of professionalism.

Grrr, those greedy bastards
Oh look, Muypoco has a fabricated anecdote to totally disprove your well documented and known truth.

Thanks Muypoco, but while you're at it, why not tell us how the world's climate scientists are all wrong because you have a sweater on.
 

Elwood Diggler

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And you couldn't be further from the truth. I had two back surgeries in the last five years and my out of pocket expenses for each were ridiculously low. Somewhere in the range of $3 to $4 thousand, all in.

Had them performed at one of the finest hospitals in the state, Duke. Surgeon is a nationally renowned neurosurgeon that had just moved to the area. Care couldn't have been better and both surgeries were 100% successful. Those people gave me a new lease on life and were kind, considerate and the picture of professionalism.

Grrr, those greedy bastards



i love the logic. so you have probably $100k worth of surgery of which you only oaid $3-4k? who paid the rest?

other people paying their premiums.

you don't have any right to their funds paying for your surgeries. why didn't you refuse such a gift and pay the whole bill yourself?
 

MuyLocoNC

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i love the logic. so you have probably $100k worth of surgery of which you only oaid $3-4k? who paid the rest?

other people paying their premiums.

you don't have any right to their funds paying for your surgeries. why didn't you refuse such a gift and pay the whole bill yourself?
Do you understand how insurance works? I pay premiums when I feel fine, so I only have to pay a small amount when I don't. I have every right to expect the insurance company to honor our contract.

Derp.
 

MuyLocoNC

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Oh look, Muypoco has a fabricated anecdote to totally disprove your well documented and known truth.

Thanks Muypoco, but while you're at it, why not tell us how the world's climate scientists are all wrong because you have a sweater on.
Yeah, I needed to fabricate two back surgeries being covered by my health insurance. Because, that never happens, right? Health insurance companies NEVER honor their contracts and pay for surgeries in your reality, that about right?

Derp.
 

Elwood Diggler

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Do you understand how insurance works? I pay premiums when I feel fine, so I only have to pay a small amount when I don't. I have every right to expect the insurance company to honor our contract.

Derp.


swing and miss

"Everybody has a right to healthcare for which they can provide ample payment. Beyond that, you only have a right to die in the gutter."


you're not providing ample payment, all the other policy holders are.
 
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Padawanbater2

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swing and miss

"Everybody has a right to healthcare for which they can provide ample payment. Beyond that, you only have a right to die in the gutter."


you're not providing ample payment, all the other policy holders are.
Watch him argue with you about the word 'ample'. That's where the technicality lies that will prove him right, I'm calling it now
 

UncleBuck

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I pay premiums when I feel fine, so I only have to pay a small amount when I don't. I have every right to expect the insurance company to honor our contract.
you mean your wife. she's the one who pays all your bills.

Actually...I get my insurance through my wife's employer...having to foot the full cost would have been a bite in the ass to my pocketbook...it would hurt to be sure.
 

UncleBuck

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Watch him argue with you about the word 'ample'. That's where the technicality lies that will prove him right, I'm calling it now
the technicality is that muyloco can't pay shit. he is 48 and does not work. he lives off of his wife.

i have many, many posts of his that prove this, and they are hilarious.

bait him appropriately.
 

ttystikk

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I don't need a technicality to prove you're both idiots, you've done that yourselves. I paid my premiums just like every other policy holder. They and I both have a legitimate expectation to have our claims honored.

"all the other policy holders are" might just be the most ignorant post on RIU ever. So, in your inadequate mind, the premiums they paid are different than the premiums I paid? Holy shit, that's stupid on a level only a liberal embrace.

Clown shoes.
They go well with your nose, blinky.
 

Padawanbater2

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I paid my premiums just like every other policy holder. They and I both have a legitimate expectation to have our claims honored.
You don't seem to understand that healthcare - in other words, the idea that if we can help somebody, we should - also incorporates those that are unable to pay, regardless of your personal feelings towards them;
"I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant

-I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

-I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

-I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

-I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

-I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. Above all, I must not play at God.

-I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

-I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

-I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

-If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help."


The republican model of "help them only if they can pay" remains a sick and twisted pipe dream of those that lack basic human compassion
 

Elwood Diggler

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I don't need a technicality to prove you're both idiots, you've done that yourselves. I paid my premiums just like every other policy holder. They and I both have a legitimate expectation to have our claims honored.

"all the other policy holders are" might just be the most ignorant post on RIU ever. So, in your inadequate mind, the premiums they paid are different than the premiums I paid? Holy shit, that's stupid on a level only a liberal embrace.

Clown shoes.


correction....popular wisdom around here says you don't pay shit, your wife does

how are the other policy holders are paying your tab? they clearly are if you only paid $3-4k on a $100k set of operations.(how insurance actually works) where the fuck else is the full payment coming from? you clearly didn't pay the doc his fee in full as you were lecturing earlier. typical republicunt hypocrisy

their premiums are more than likely different than yours. so what.....you're not paying them anyway, your wife is. now do the medical world a favor and stick your head in your ass and pull yourself in.....don't stop until your asshole has swallowed the rest of you. your wife could probably use the break

2nd swing and miss
 

MuyLocoNC

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correction....popular wisdom around here says you don't pay shit, your wife does

how are the other policy holders are paying your tab? they clearly are if you only paid $3-4k on a $100k set of operations.(how insurance actually works) where the fuck else is the full payment coming from? you clearly didn't pay the doc his fee in full as you were lecturing earlier. typical republicunt hypocrisy

their premiums are more than likely different than yours. so what.....you're not paying them anyway, your wife is. now do the medical world a favor and stick your head in your ass and pull yourself in.....don't stop until your asshole has swallowed the rest of you. your wife could probably use the break

2nd swing and miss
I'd check your source on the "popular wisdom". Village idiot possibly? I have a successful blind and shutter business that takes up about 72 hours of my time a month. I make more in three months, than my wife makes all year, so nice try Captain Flaccid. We do voluntarily use her company's insurance plan, it rocks.

I'm sorry you don't understand how insurance works. Maybe that's why liberal's think it should be sold to individuals with pre-existing conditions. Insurance isn't healthcare, duh. You're the nitwit that turned the conversation toward insurance, we were talking about healthcare.

The hospital and doctor got paid their already negotiated fees from the insurance company that I and others paid. They didn't have to agree to those fees with my insurance company, but actually chose to do so, long before I came along with my back issue.

You don't even have a bat, I'm pitching to an empty plate. YOU'RE OUT!!!
 

MuyLocoNC

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You don't seem to understand that healthcare - in other words, the idea that if we can help somebody, we should - also incorporates those that are unable to pay, regardless of your personal feelings towards them;The republican model of "help them only if they can pay" remains a sick and twisted pipe dream of those that lack basic human compassion
First off, your response had nothing to do with the section of my post you quoted...derp. Insurance isn't healthcare.

Secondly, are you suggesting the nasty 'ol republicans came up with the idea that physicians expect to be paid or you won't get their time? That's an interesting accusation considering the practice has been that way for thousands of years before republicans hit the scene.
 

UncleBuck

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I'd check your source on the "popular wisdom". Village idiot possibly? I have a successful blind and shutter business that takes up about 72 hours of my time a month. I make more in three months, than my wife makes all year, so nice try Captain Flaccid.
well, consider that a claims adjuster in the raleigh/durham/cary area makes about $40,000 a year, you are claiming to make $160,000 a year installing blinds and shutters.

considering that the national average for that job (full time) is only about 18% of the amount you claim to make, and considering that you claim to only install shutters and blinds for 18 hours a week, it doesn't take a mathematician like myself to see that you are lying.

i guess this is just another one of those times where you claim romney is winning so hard, that he'll beat obama by 14 points, when obama ends up winning by 4.

maybe try spreading your bullshit somewhere where an actual window installer won't be there to dispel it, dumbass.

LOL
 

Padawanbater2

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well, consider that a claims adjuster in the raleigh/durham/cary area makes about $40,000 a year, you are claiming to make $160,000 a year installing blinds and shutters.

considering that the national average for that job (full time) is only about 18% of the amount you claim to make, and considering that you claim to only install shutters and blinds for 18 hours a week, it doesn't take a mathematician like myself to see that you are lying.

i guess this is just another one of those times where you claim romney is winning so hard, that he'll beat obama by 14 points, when obama ends up winning by 4.

maybe try spreading your bullshit somewhere where an actual window installer won't be there to dispel it, dumbass.

LOL
 
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