I've had some questions about the ancestry of my Sidetracked: strain, so I thought I would go over it again. As luck would have it, I got to have a long talk with my BIL this morning. It is rare we see each other in private, since his work schedule and mine are not conducive to it. He said that to the best of his knowledge, the seeds we were growing last year {and the 16 I started for him, and the 5 for me} are F1's from the 1988 cross. He said at the most, they were F2's, but he felt really strongly they were F1's.
He calls Sidetracked: Jack Carlos Cross.
The cross was Jack's Northern Lights, grown here in northwest Florida for 2-3 years, and Carlos' Afghan Skunk {a hybrid}. The BIL thinks the AS was crossed with Mexican or Colombian, just judging by the plant and bud structure. But it was still the shorter and bushier of the two. The NL made big curved {like a cupped hand} buds, so it was most likely not true NL, but crossed with some sort of sativa. It was also pretty tall. 10-12' plants were the norm for him when he was cash cropping the NL. His goal was to bring the height down just a little, and to get more, but smaller buds.
He also said he was breeding to get less males. He got less males, but I don"t know if he was really breeding for it or not. That might be kind of like my buddy that had a golden retriever that was smarter than 90% of the people I know. Sassy was amazing. She could count, add and do all sorts of dog type tricks. But the one thing Sassy was known for was spinning around and rolling over. Years after the dog died, I was talking to his ex wife about the old girl, and how much everyone missed her. {the dog} The ex told me that when my buddy was training her to roll over, she would always spin around before doing it. When he couldn't make her stop, he just started telling her to spin around and roll over. It worked. She did it every time. I'm not saying the BIL is rewriting history, but he might be. If he was trying to or not, Sidetracked: damn sure has very few males.
I had remembered wrong about the date on the bag of shake. He was not living here after 1993, so it had to be before then. While he did make some F1XF1, F1XP1 and F2XP1 crosses, all those seeds were lost in the flood of life. His family has a farm too, and some of his stuff is stored down there. So there is always the chance he will find some of them. But I'm going forward with what I have, assuming I will get no more help from the past.
If last year's seeds were F1's or F2's doesn't matter that much to me. F2's to me are often where you find the golden bean. He also brought me the smoke notes from the samples I gave him. Along with all the seeds that was in the buds. I haven't got a good look at them, but more seeds is always better. And just to show what kind of stand up guy he is, when I mentioned I was smoking bought pot, he offered to give me some of his bud from last year. Him and Sister smoke very little, and he said I could have some if I needed it.
He also told me not to fool around with anything but what I thought was the best. Good advice, but it all got me stoned, so it's hard not to put at least a few seeds of each in the dirt.
Now for the plant names from last year.
The CP patch was the best of them all. I named them according the height, with CP1 being the tallest. That is a little flunky because CPDA {deer ate} would have been taller if the deer hadn't ate it. CP2 and CP3 only produced one seed between them{unless there was some in the bud I gave my BIL} and was the scene of a terrible clipping tragedy. They were both short, tied down plants. Being tied down like they were, the limbs got very long. I had clipped a few CP2 buds in the CP3 bag before I released what I was doing. Thus the name, CP2R3. If more seeds turn up, that will become CP2N3. All of these plants were bred with Slo1.
The GV patch didn't get as much sun, so those 4 plants didn't look as good as the CP's. It was actually 5 plants, counting the male, GV5, which bred GV1, 2, 3 and 4. I posted my smoke notes on the bushcrafter thread, but these plants got me plenty high, but the taste was not as good. Some of that might have been them getting too much loving care. I was feeding some pretty hot compost teas, and might have caused a few problems with too much N. They were also clipped after five straight days of rain. A few of the seeds were starting to pop in the buds, so it had to come down. It could have used a couple of weeks of sunshine there at the end.
The Slo patch was a couple of weeks behind the others, which was already late. I had started seeds for myself in mid to late June. Then a couple weeks later I started some for my BIL. I kept 3 or 4 of them and put them in the Slo patch. {that is S L O} The male that I used in most of the crosses, was Slo1, the tallest plant in the patch. Slo2 was alright, but didn't have much time to get big. Slo3 was the one that changed her name to Herman. After it was full of bud {and seed} I saw one set of balls on her. I pinched them off and moved her a couple hundred yards away.
The SOL patch started out with more than one plant, but that is all that finished. It was another spot without enough light. I have said I would grow out all of them, but I may wait on SOL.
And now for the tragedy. The BP patch had three plants in it. It also had a big oak tree that I was going back to ring, so it would die. I forgot the tree and the patch for a couple months. When I went back, there was only one little plant left. I moved it out into the open sun. It was about 18" tall at the time. I bred it with Slo1 pollen, but only got three seeds. BP by far was the best tasting bud I grew. My aim is to use it in my breeding going forward.
I'm also growing some bag seed. I call those BST1 and BST2. {bag seed testers} For bought pot, I was pretty happy with both. I will grow them out and see what they do. I posted my smoke notes for them on the bushcrafter thread.
Hope this helps the guys who were asking. If I just made your more confused, sorry.