Clone only don't exist?

[Buds4Fun]

Ok. Some people talk about clone only strains which I assume can only be grown from clone as they don't seed. Other people are talking about stressing a plant or using super thrive causing it to hermi. So as far as I can see one of these statements is bullshit.
What do you think?

 

[p4id]

Clone only just means its a clone, from a tested plant that turned out good, but doesn't breed true.

 

[genuity]

Clone only just means its a clone, from a tested plant that turned out good, but doesn't breed true.

All good,but the last part..

 

[RM3]

Clone only strains seed and breed just fine, I do it all the time

 

[phunt]

Clone only is not a strain. It is one "special" plant that has been cloned and passed around.

 

[Cannacat]

I don't really know anything about Super Thrive but it seems unlikely to me that it would cause undue stress. Isn't it just like vitamins and hormones? Maybe over-use causes stress? I don't know about that one.... I'm sure it's true though that stressing flowering plants can cause them to hermie. What was it you thought was bullshit?

 

[akhiymjames]

Clone only is a special pheno that came from seed. Can't buy pure seeds of it unless they are s1 which is created by using sts or colloidal silver.

 

[RM3]

And the reason it is kept/shared as clone only is because even with making S1's there is no guarantee that the same pheno will be found again

 

[bluntmassa1]

You can definitely breed it into a strain but it's just mostly from pollyhybrids with a shit load of phenos and just happened to be the keeper.

Obviously you can find shit just as good from seed because she didn't just spring up from the center of the earth. Lol

 

[p4id]

All good,but the last part..

By breed true, I mean will not be an exact replica when breed

And the reason it is kept/shared as clone only is because even with making S1's there is no guarantee that the same pheno will be found again

Which was what I meant by "breed true"

 

[coolkid.02]

By breed true, I mean will not be an exact replica when breed


Which was what I meant by "breed true"

lol... You can't just make up your own definition for what true breeding means.

 

[p4id]

Damn, why not ?

 

[RM3]

By breed true, I mean will not be an exact replica when breed

Definition of breed true is the exact opposite,,,,,,,,

A phenotype for a simply-inherited trait is said to breed true if two parents with that phenotype produce offspring of that same phenotype exclusively.

 

[Chunky Stool]

Definition of breed true is the exact opposite,,,,,,,,

A phenotype for a simply-inherited trait is said to breed true if two parents with that phenotype produce offspring of that same phenotype exclusively.

How is the exact phenotype determined?

 

[RM3]

How is the exact phenotype determined?

I suppose that would be up to the person wantin to know ?

but most likely dna test ?

 

[skunkwreck]

How is the exact phenotype determined?

By the genotype.

 

[MeJuana]

It's just the female, so it basically means no breeder has hand selected a male, back crossed, stabilized it and etc. Without a set of parents with the same traits you can get a wildcard when you breed it. If you hermie a plant out you get S1 seeds, Selfed 1st generation. These seeds are said to be prone to going hermie. So the breeder needs to grow them out and select a great S1

A lot of great seeds came from S1 seeds but they were bred out, stabilized, hand selected.

 

[kgp]

This is a funny post. So much bullshit, with some good info mixed in.

 

[skunkwreck]

This is a funny post. So much bullshit, with some good info mixed in.

Lol yeah...my thinking was a clone only strain Is one that only a mother is left...no males exist so no seeds can be made except S1's or R1's or crosses with another strains male...but hell I'm always stoned so what do I know .

 

[racerboy71]

It's just the female, so it basically means no breeder has hand selected a male, back crossed, stabilized it and etc. Without a set of parents with the same traits you can get a wildcard when you breed it. If you hermie a plant out you get S1 seeds, Selfed 1st generation. These seeds are said to be prone to going hermie. So the breeder needs to grow them out and select a great S1

A lot of great seeds came from S1 seeds but they were bred out, stabilized, hand selected.

except most s1 seeds aren't created by "hermying" a plant out, but rather by spraying said plant with a chemical such as collodial sliver, which prevents the plant from producing ethylyne, the chemical needed for female, pistilllite, flower production, and the plant instead grows male, stamenate, flowers.