EXCUSE ME?!..The OFFICIAL Bernie Sanders For President 2016 Thread

NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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schuylaar said:
This is an absolute impossibility..guns need to be owner activated only.

Expanded background checks are a joke, just like tax cuts let the wealthy keep more of their 'own money' mentality..:lol:
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What about the guns that cannot be retrofitted? Are we supposed to do away with all guns and rifles manufactured for the last 500 years?
 
Fogdog

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bluntmassa1 said:
I never said she was going to outlaw guns just going to be the toughest on guns which is bullshit and I am not voting for her a vote for Hillary might as well be a vote to keep big money in politics. There are many reasons I will not vote for Hillary after all Bill chose someone else. :)
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Your gun rights are not at risk anywhere. That's just NRA right wing bullshit.
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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schuylaar said:
This is an absolute impossibility..guns need to be owner activated only.

Expanded background checks are a joke, just like tax cuts let the wealthy keep more of their 'own money' mentality..:lol:
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Only problem with that is I ain't giving up my guns and plenty guns on the black market if needed I can get one as well as many people I know.

Not to mention if I'm not home and something happens my wife and daughter (when she's a little older) should be able to defend themselves my dogs ain't stopping a man with a gun.
 
Fogdog

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NLXSK1 said:
What about the guns that cannot be retrofitted? Are we supposed to do away with all guns and rifles manufactured for the last 500 years?
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How about if gun owners locked them up? What if they just followed the safety guidelines published by their very own gun lobby? Then nothing needs to change regarding gun manufacturing laws.

About 65% of the households in this country don't contain guns. Yet the right to own guns is supported by about the same percentage, roughly 60% support the status quo of rights to own guns. So, I'd say that the gun lobby and the people of this country are pretty much in agreement at this time. But the trend over the past 40 years is towards fewer households with guns and declining support for relatively liberal gun ownership laws. Not one reason for this trend but a big one is gun safety in the home. Random accidents in homes where guns are kept loaded and freely accessible to children happen all too often and are simple to address by gun owners. Just follow the NRA guidelines for gun safety.

If gun owners can't follow clear and easy procedures for gun safety, then the suggestion that Sky put forth will become the law of the land. Not now but it will happen eventually.
 
ttystikk

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bluntmassa1 said:
Only problem with that is I ain't giving up my guns and plenty guns on the black market if needed I can get one as well as many people I know.

Not to mention if I'm not home and something happens my wife and daughter (when she's a little older) should be able to defend themselves my dogs ain't stopping a man with a gun.
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An armed society is a polite society. With lots of dead people who weren't polite. Makes it a tough call.
 
Fogdog

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bluntmassa1 said:
No, actually it's out of the horses mouth do you not pay any attention to Hilary?

Take guns? not all guns anyway. But she damn sure is the toughest one on guns.
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Your right to own guns is not under any threat. Rural ownership is not a serious discussion anywhere. People living in cities are dealing with different problems and threats. I don't know why a rural gun owner would feel entitled to prevent a city from dealing with a city-problem.
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
An armed society is a polite society. With lots of dead people who weren't polite. Makes it a tough call.
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LOL, its true dead people can't hurl insults. I wish it were true that only the impolite get shot.

Japan has a very polite society. Not armed either.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Fogdog said:
How about if gun owners locked them up? What if they just followed the safety guidelines published by their very own gun lobby? Then nothing needs to change regarding gun manufacturing laws.

About 65% of the households in this country don't contain guns. Yet the right to own guns is supported by about the same percentage, roughly 60% support the status quo of rights to own guns. So, I'd say that the gun lobby and the people of this country are pretty much in agreement at this time. But the trend over the past 40 years is towards fewer households with guns and declining support for relatively liberal gun ownership laws. Not one reason for this trend but a big one is gun safety in the home. Random accidents in homes where guns are kept loaded and freely accessible to children happen all too often and are simple to address by gun owners. Just follow the NRA guidelines for gun safety.

If gun owners can't follow clear and easy procedures for gun safety, then the suggestion that Sky put forth will become the law of the land. Not now but it will happen eventually.
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The right to own weapons is a constitutional right, not a government permission based on us behaving ourselves.

How about pool owners stop letting their kids drown eh? How do you legislate responsibility?
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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Fogdog said:
Your right to own guns is not under any threat. Rural ownership is not a serious discussion anywhere. People living in cities are dealing with different problems and threats. I don't know why a rural gun owner would feel entitled to prevent a city from dealing with a city-problem.
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I don't give a damn about city laws but Bill Clinton's assault weapons ban did not just effect city folk. Nor will this mental illness bullshit and expanded background checks and that's just if she doesn't bring back the assault weapons ban when very few have been used in shootings handguns are the city folk problem. But city folk should have the right to defend themselves as well as rural.
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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bluntmassa1 said:
I don't give a damn about city laws but Bill Clinton's assault weapons ban did not just effect city folk. Nor will this mental illness bullshit and expanded background checks and that's just if she doesn't bring back the assault weapons ban when very few have been used in shootings handguns are the city folk problem. But city folk should have the right to defend themselves as well as rural.
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Everyone should have the right to defend themselves. Removing the ability to carry a gun exposes the weakest and most vulnerable members of society to criminal interference. ER: Women, the elderly, etc. A knife is not an equalizer in this situation.
 
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