Why Has No One Killed George Zimmerman?

[UncleBuck]

This is racism @UncleBuck

did you not see me already call it out as such?

guess what? he likes trump, just like you.

did you not see that as well?

 

[Flaming Pie]

did you not see me already call it out as such?

guess what? he likes trump, just like you.

did you not see that as well?

Im just catching up on everything. I had company almost all day.

I feel badly that I kept you waiting though.

Kisses!

 

[UncleBuck]

Im just catching up on everything. I had company almost all day.

I feel badly that I kept you waiting though.

Kisses!

no kisses.

does it bother you that the person you just called racist is a trump supporter like you?

 

[Flaming Pie]

no kisses.

does it bother you that the person you just called racist is a trump supporter like you?

Yes kisses.

It doesnt bother me. Everyone is entitle to vote how they see fit. I have my reasons and they have theirs. My reasons dont have to be the same as someone elses.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yes kisses.

It doesnt bother me. Everyone is entitle to vote how they see fit. I have my reasons and they have theirs. My reasons dont have to be the same as someone elses.

it would bother me if a bunch of white supremacists were on my side of the issue.

heck, one of them even messaged you the other day because he thought you were one of them.

 

[Flaming Pie]

it would bother me if a bunch of white supremacists were on my side of the issue.

heck, one of them even messaged you the other day because he thought you were one of them.

Yeah that sucked. Not gonna lie. Kind of thought it was you trolling me for a bit.

I still think jobs, enforcing laws, and staying out of other countries is important.

I know you said America first is used by WN, and i dont doubt it, but i think our president should focus on fixing american problems instead of world problems.

Time will tell with trump. I think its 50/50 with him. Bad or good.
I still dont see racism in keeping track of who enters and leaves the country. I know you do but i just dont see it.

 

[UncleBuck]

I still dont see racism in keeping track of who enters and leaves the country. I know you do but i just dont see it.

we already do that, silly.

what you are supporting is a ban on muslims. which is incredibly bigoted. read some history.

 

[HEKTOS]

heck, one of them even messaged you the other day because he thought you were one of them.

She definitely sounds like one,then I read she's a race traitor...

 

[ThickStemz]

it would bother me if a bunch of white supremacists were on my side of the issue.

heck, one of them even messaged you the other day because he thought you were one of them.

They may not be white supremacists, but a bunch of shitty people are on your side...

Rather I guess I should say they happen to have to share a side with the likes of you.

 

[ThickStemz]

we already do that, silly.

what you are supporting is a ban on muslims. which is incredibly bigoted. read some history.

If you read that history you might find keeping Muslims out of your country is a way to make it safer.

Islam happens to be a very virulent strain of the God virus and wherever it goes it causes trouble with its neighbors.

 

[UncleBuck]

They may not be white supremacists, but a bunch of shitty people are on your side...

Rather I guess I should say they happen to have to share a side with the likes of you.

what shitty people?

i am allied with whites, hispanics, blacks, asians, women, gays, and unions. and probably a few other core groups.

tronald dump has the support of the KKK. literally.

draw me a comparison here.

 

[UncleBuck]

If you read that history you might find keeping Muslims out of your country is a way to make it safer.

Islam happens to be a very virulent strain of the God virus and wherever it goes it causes trouble with its neighbors.

what part of the constitution makes it OK to establish a ban on religion and to prohibit the free exercise thereof?

 

[ThickStemz]

what shitty people?

i am allied with whites, hispanics, blacks, asians, women, gays, and unions. and probably a few other core groups.

tronald dump has the support of the KKK. literally.

draw me a comparison here.

The black Panthers.... The mirror image of the kkk.

Donald Trump doesn't have support of the kkk. That's nonsense.

 

[Ace Yonder]

I don't think you'll find me drawing any link to the hand in waistband and a firearm. You did that for me.

Z did have a gun. I was only saying it is untrue to say what some on here were saying that he got out with the gun drawn. It would have been concealed until used.

What you left out of your story was the point where Martin turned toward Z and approached him "with his hands in his waist band." This was when Z was still in his car.

If you are not implying that Z had a reasonable expectation to expect T was armed, why even mention the waist band? And I never said he got out of the car with his gun drawn, I said that in a state where concealed carry is very common, when someone is acting aggressively towards you or chasing you, thinking they may have a gun is a very reasonable assumption, and thus you would not want to lead that person back to your home. Is attacking them a good idea? No. But is it maybe a better idea than putting your whole family at risk? For me it would be.

 

[ThickStemz]

what part of the constitution makes it OK to establish a ban on religion and to prohibit the free exercise thereof?

It isn't a ban on religion. Its adjusting immigration policy. The US has historically limited what and who could come in. It might not have ever used religion before. But it has used other, otherwise protected categories, such as nationality, age, among others.

It could be done without mentioning Islam or Muslims in the language of the drafted legislation. That is just the goal.

 

[Ace Yonder]

It isn't a ban on religion. Its adjusting immigration policy. The US has historically limited what and who could come in. It might not have ever used religion before. But it has used other, otherwise protected categories, such as nationality, age, among others.

It could be done without mentioning Islam or Muslims in the language of the drafted legislation. That is just the goal.

If they just blanket made it illegal for all religious people to enter the country I would consider that a rather enormous victory. I don't understand why we give so much undue respect to illogical beliefs in silly invisible people. Religion isn't necessarily a disease (it might be), but at the very least it is a symptom of stupidity (which is perhaps the worst disease in our society as a whole).

 

[ThickStemz]

If you are not implying that Z had a reasonable expectation to expect T was armed, why even mention the waist band? And I never said he got out of the car with his gun drawn, I said that in a state where concealed carry is very common, when someone is acting aggressively towards you or chasing you, thinking they may have a gun is a very reasonable assumption, and thus you would not want to lead that person back to your home. Is attacking them a good idea? No. But is it maybe a better idea than putting your whole family at risk? For me it would be.

You yourself just made the link to hand and waistband to gun. So you can't avoid the reasonable person drawing the same infrence. And that is a threatening posture.

T was a young slender atheletic looking young man. Z was old enough to have slowed a step from his youth and has always gone up and down with his weight. T could have easily gotten away without going to his home, if he had taken off and ran, which would make the most sense if he was frightend as you think. But he didn't. For Z to have caught him, T must have stopped and confronted Z. That was his right. He didn't have the right to start beating the shit out of Z, so when T did that the jury and Federal gov are clear that Z was within his rights to shoot him.

It was a tragedy. But there have been people making comments besides you in this thread. One of them spoke as if Z got out of his car gun in hand. That did not happen.

What we know from the facts are that Z is a brave man, if not wise. He perused a mysterious figure in the dark, whom You agree that Z had good reason to assume was armed. T was a coward. He would rather run from confrontation, only to lay in wait to ambush a man in the dark and proceeds to kick him while down despite his repeated cries for help and mercy.

Were probably better off it ended this way. Have you ever wondered why it was that Ts parents didn't call to report him missing until the next day. At his age my parents would have been calling at 1am had I not answered my phone.

 

[ThickStemz]

If they just blanket made it illegal for all religious people to enter the country I would consider that a rather enormous victory. I don't understand why we give so much undue respect to illogical beliefs in silly invisible people. Religion isn't necessarily a disease (it might be), but at the very least it is a symptom of stupidity (which is perhaps the worst disease in our society as a whole).

Would we agree that at present the most dangerous religion is Islam? Yes they all have potential for danger. But Islam to my mind is at current the most virulant.

I would agree with banning all religious people from entering. That makes it evenly applied and more constitutional, plus it lets us keep the people from South of the border out. Great idea.

 

[Ace Yonder]

You yourself just made the link to hand and waistband to gun. So you can't avoid the reasonable person drawing the same infrence. And that is a threatening posture.

T was a young slender atheletic looking young man. Z was old enough to have slowed a step from his youth and has always gone up and down with his weight. T could have easily gotten away without going to his home, if he had taken off and ran, which would make the most sense if he was frightend as you think. But he didn't. For Z to have caught him, T must have stopped and confronted Z. That was his right. He didn't have the right to start beating the shit out of Z, so when T did that the jury and Federal gov are clear that Z was within his rights to shoot him.

It was a tragedy. But there have been people making comments besides you in this thread. One of them spoke as if Z got out of his car gun in hand. That did not happen.

What we know from the facts are that Z is a brave man, if not wise. He perused a mysterious figure in the dark, whom You agree that Z had good reason to assume was armed. T was a coward. He would rather run from confrontation, only to lay in wait to ambush a man in the dark and proceeds to kick him while down despite his repeated cries for help and mercy.

Were probably better off it ended this way. Have you ever wondered why it was that Ts parents didn't call to report him missing until the next day. At his age my parents would have been calling at 1am had I not answered my phone.

I disagree with your certainty as to the events that night. You have no way of knowing how they came to their final confrontation. Even if Z is being honest (which lets be real here, he certainly is not), he is a person who has shown himself to have a very flimsy grasp on reality, and his testimony (as with ALL eyewitness testimony) will be inherently flawed and cannot be taken as an unquestioned fact. I totally disagree that the guy using his fists is a coward and the guy with the gun is brave, I see it completely the other way around.

 

[ThickStemz]

I disagree with your certainty as to the events that night. You have no way of knowing how they came to their final confrontation. Even if Z is being honest (which lets be real here, he certainly is not), he is a person who has shown himself to have a very flimsy grasp on reality, and his testimony (as with ALL eyewitness testimony) will be inherently flawed and cannot be taken as an unquestioned fact. I totally disagree that the guy using his fists is a coward and the guy with the gun is brave, I see it completely the other way around.

If course I dont proscribe 100% accuracy to Z. He is human, it probably happened very fast with a lot of emotion and adrenaline and some guilt afterward.

But i would only say that this case from the moment it happend received national attention and was subject to an intense police investigation. Z has shown himself sicne to be sort of a dumbass. I don't think he could have gotten away with lying to the cops. Forensics being what they are...

We will never know with 100% certinty, but I've read the record of events several times these past couple days. I think what i describe is a highly likely scenario.

It would have been so easy for T to flee If he wanted to. He had to have turned to confront Z. No other way, Z couldn't have ran him down.