"We have an under-incarceration problem" -Tom Cotton

Padawanbater2

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qwizoking said:
its true..
unsolved crimes are ridiculous

i mean shit, i shouldnt even be here posting ;)
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Well in that case, what you meant to say is that there's an unsolved crimes problem, not an incarceration problem, and with that I agree. If cops weren't occupied with arresting drug offenders they would be better equipped to solve legitimate crimes. It's sadly ironic.
 
qwizoking

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unfortunate fact: for the vast majority of crimes, a perpetrator is never identified or arrested, let alone prosecuted, convicted, and jailed," Cotton said during a speech at The Hudson Institute, according to his prepared remarks. "Law enforcement is able to arrest or identify a likely perpetrator for only 19 percent of property crimes and 47 percent of violent crimes. If anything, we have an under-incarceration problem...,



dont try and turn it on people arrested with small amounts of weed.. i only read the link you posted, nothing else., im more concerned with detectives etc falling short not local pd stopping you with a bag of ganja.
and i agree with it for the most part.
unsolved crimes and an under incarceration problem go hand in hand, and many "drug offenders" should be incarcerated .

i dont feel as strongly as he does, i dont know which specific mandatory minimum laws he's referring but overall i agree with what he said....
i dont necessarily agree with his mindset in that

" releasing felons under reduced sentences serves only to destabilize the communities in which they are released."

what prison should be....
"ensure prisons aren’t anarchic jungles that endanger both inmates and corrections officers, to promote rehabilitation and reintegration for those who seek it, and to stop the over-criminalization of private conduct under federal law"






i dont see why you would disagree





explain your perspective
 
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UncleBuck

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Kasuti said:
You're such a nice intelligent person
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i really am. and i was asking a perfectly honest question. many people learn the abhorrent beliefs you have while in prison, which you were.

kinda takes a bit of a fuckup to land in prison, eh? so you're also a bit of a fuckup?
 
Kasuti

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UncleBuck said:
i really am. and i was asking a perfectly honest question. many people learn the abhorrent beliefs you have while in prison, which you were.

kinda takes a bit of a fuckup to land in prison, eh? so you're also a bit of a fuckup?
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I'm sure you are a very respected and well liked member of your community
 
Kasuti

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I hope everyone reading this thread will see how one dumbass can join a thread just to act immature and ruin a conversation.
 
Mr Hyde

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It happens in every thread on this part of the forum so it is no surprise. I still think that if we are so advanced a civilization we could figure out alternatives to humans in cages.
 
Fogdog

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Mr Hyde said:
It happens in every thread on this part of the forum so it is no surprise. I still think that if we are so advanced a civilization we could figure out alternatives to humans in cages.
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Most countries don't lock up nearly as many as we do and their streets are safer than ours. I'm not saying prisons cause streets to be less safe but I am saying that the drivel we hear about draconian laws like three strikes and mandatory sentences is just that.

On the other hand, some people have to be excluded from society. But completely agree that our current system is broken and needs to be revamped with better choices made for who earns incarceration and what to do with them when they are sentenced. Maybe cages are the wrong way to incarcerate. Are there better alternatives in use elsewhere?
 
evergreengardener

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Fogdog said:
Most countries don't lock up nearly as many as we do and their streets are safer than ours. I'm not saying prisons cause streets to be less safe but I am saying that the drivel we hear about draconian laws like three strikes and mandatory sentences is just that.

On the other hand, some people have to be excluded from society. But completely agree that our current system is broken and needs to be revamped with better choices made for who earns incarceration and what to do with them when they are sentenced. Maybe cages are the wrong way to incarcerate. Are there better alternatives in use elsewhere?
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our prison system def makes streets more dangerous takes kids man 15 16 17 and puts them in with 30 40 year olds doing life for horrible crime all over little shit like pot possession
 
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