Using mushrooms as a mental tool?

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ChemPro

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I had a theory I was hoping someone could comment on. I have some mild anxiety. And it gets exacerbated at the thought of losing control. At one point I couldn't even drink coffee without panicking about not being able to fall asleep. Those days are behind me now but I still have some mental weaknesses I'd like to conquer.

So, they say people with anxiety shouldn't do mushrooms as you can have a bad trip. I was thinking about using mushrooms as a tool and it goes as followed.

Start out with a level 1 dose. As the bad thoughts come try and control your mind to turn them into positive thoughts. Write down the experience and then celebrate the victory in order to build confidence and positive habits. If I have a bad experience it wont be too bad because I have a small dose.

Once I conquer that level I increase to a level 2 dose. And continue the process until I am able to control my thoughts completely at a level 5 dose.

The theory, and my question is will I be able to apply what I've learned in my trips to my sober self? Can I train myself to become a creature without self produced mental anguish? Can I become zen, and without anger and negativity using shrooms?
 
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mo841

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From what I have found, tripping on shrooms has not really impacted my sober life. I get pissed off just as much after trying them as I did before trying them.

After the first trip your kinda in a wow type state for a while but once you take them a few times it will just be like ok that was fun, back to life as usual.

A small dose like 1gram in my experience is a waste of time and you would be lucky to feel anything. At 1/8 You will still be in control, even at 5 grams your in control but everything is more intense.

The Shroom trip is a lot of fun and This is coming from someone who hates the weed and alcohol buzz. Just be relaxed when you take them, you will see there is nothing to be afraid of.
 
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cindysid

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In my experience with anything over one gram they tend to intensify whatever emotions you are feeling at the time,t good or bad. Microdoses of 1 gram or less (cubensis) tend to elevate my mood without tripping at all. I make sure that I am in a good place emotionally before taking larger doses to avoid a "bad trip".
 
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ChemPro

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electricslide said:
Control your thoughts at a level 5? Lmfao hahaha hahaha. It's a level 5 trip for a reason if you have full control it's not a level 5
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I can't say enough how right you were and how humbled I am. Damn. Trying to control the experience resulted in the worst experience of my life. I spent an hour pondering calling 911, I wanted out of it so bad. That hour seemed to last forever. I put on some music and stopped thinking. I had to turn off my brain. After that hour of hell passed and I stopped thinking the experience became quite pleasant.
 
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ChemPro said:
I can't say enough how right you were and how humbled I am. Damn. Trying to control the experience resulted in the worst experience of my life. I spent an hour pondering calling 911, I wanted out of it so bad. That hour seemed to last forever. I put on some music and stopped thinking. I had to turn off my brain. After that hour of hell passed and I stopped thinking the experience became quite pleasant.
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When I first started doing 5+ grams of shrooms and I felt the tension coming on. One sure fire way that I used to get throught it was to literally roll around on thw floor. It made that time really enjoyable.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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I've heard of a few studies using psychedelics like mushrooms for treatment of depression.

Hope it works for you. Either way, let us know how it worked out.
 
iHearAll

iHearAll

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isnt this just called "building a tolerance to drugs"? like, exactly the reason people use harder drugs.... to cope with society since the drugs they were using arent doing much since you've gotten a tolerance to those already.

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iHearAll

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ChemPro said:
I can't say enough how right you were and how humbled I am. Damn. Trying to control the experience resulted in the worst experience of my life. I spent an hour pondering calling 911, I wanted out of it so bad. That hour seemed to last forever. I put on some music and stopped thinking. I had to turn off my brain. After that hour of hell passed and I stopped thinking the experience became quite pleasant.
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been there.... had to sleep with my best friends girlfriend to get better. they werent dating yet.... aweful times, doing drugs sucks. having an enjoyable experience in life is great
 
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My body felt like it was in a state between sleep and consciousness. I kept yawning and felt like I could fall asleep. I laid down and as I felt sleep coming on a jolt of electricity woke me up. It was so intense and painful. It may have been a jolt of adrenaline, as though I shouldn’t fall asleep and my body was protecting itself by releasing adrenaline. Is this possible or a real thing?
 
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ChemPro said:
My body felt like it was in a state between sleep and consciousness. I kept yawning and felt like I could fall asleep. I laid down and as I felt sleep coming on a jolt of electricity woke me up. It was so intense and painful. It may have been a jolt of adrenaline, as though I shouldn’t fall asleep and my body was protecting itself by releasing adrenaline. Is this possible or a real thing?
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Happens to me quit often. At that point I would advise moving around. I used to lay down and close my eyes or roll around. But doing "something" would be more helpful. I always try to fight the first yawn. Butusually forget.
 
iHearAll

iHearAll

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giphy.gif hahahahah^ yea. i call it "the fear". It's about as discerning as contemplating death while sober. But once the drugs kick in, any of "those" kinds of thoughts are amplified to extremes. It's cool though because once you find soberness in a trip, the experience is allowed to become extreme and enlightening.
 
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iHearAll

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Drowning-Man said:
Ever try DMT? It really gave me alot of insight about my self. Bad trips can be just as much a learning experience as good trips.
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never smoked it. only ingested 4aco-dmt a few times. i was younger than i was in this particular moment.

I remember the first time to be a grand ol time. dragons, girls, a phantom erection, smoking an ounce between a few cats and waking up hours later from not actually sleeping a minute and thinking "holy fuck....... i see how people waste so much time doing this stuff"

sooooooooo i left the country..
 
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