Hydrogardens.com Dry Nutrient Lovers Unite!

[ttystikk]

checkin out the web site, cant seem to find the dry fert ?
is it these guys?
https://hydro-gardens.com/product-category/fertilizers/

That's them! Call them if you have trouble with the website.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

about dry nutes like the thread I am in is actually about I grew the bud I showed with only ocean forest and Pure Blend Pro Grow. I keep reading 312 NPK is proper for plant growth and health but Botanicare has the K higher than the N.

The results were still awesome but what NPK value should I build or buy in dry nutes? I am going to stick with amended potting mix or pro mix for now as a medium.

 

[ttystikk]

about dry nutes like the thread I am in is actually about I grew the bud I showed with only ocean forest and Pure Blend Pro Grow. I keep reading 312 NPK is proper for plant growth and health but Botanicare has the K higher than the N.

The results were still awesome but what NPK value should I build or buy in dry nutes? I am going to stick with amended potting mix or pro mix for now as a medium.

I go for more of a 3-2-4 NPK ratio.

3g/gal calcium nitrate
2g/gal 5-11-26 mix
1g/gal epsom salt

For bloom I'll add .25-.5g/gal MKP, 0-52-32.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I used it up but I think that is the Pure blend pro grow ratio. With 2 calcium and .5 mag.

But I prefer some ammonium nitrate to balance out my well water and soil mix. So I think I would need a mix of nitrate and ammonium for best results.

 

[RM3]

What will you do if you smoke something you like more than yours and it was grown with an HPS bulb and advanced nutes. Scrap your whole set up and start teaching something else?

I look forward to that day, but as yet it has not happened

and I teach what I teach for a reason, that's not gonna change

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I don't doubt the quality of your pot one bit. I would love to smoke someone else's great pot too. But maybe you should concede to some facts.

Great pot can be grown with many methods. It is mostly genetics and environment. Not which light and nutes. But how they are applied.

 

[RM3]

I don't doubt the quality of your pot one bit. I would love to smoke someone else's great pot too. But maybe you should concede to some facts.

Great pot can be grown with many methods. It is mostly genetics and environment. Not which light and nutes. But how they are applied.

Been teachin this for years, so why would I concede?

 

[RM3]

I don't doubt the quality of your pot one bit. I would love to smoke someone else's great pot too. But maybe you should concede to some facts.

Great pot can be grown with many methods. It is mostly genetics and environment. Not which light and nutes. But how they are applied.

Folks tend to forget (might be a stoner thing) I've been postin and teachin new growers here for years. The Truth about Flushing thread that I wrote years ago still gets posted bout every day here, just saw it again,,, or that grow I did bout 6 years ago where I grew 7 foot tall plants and pulled bout 2 pounds with 2 400's or my 1st journaled grow here where I pulled 1.5 oz's with just 97 watts of flouro, I've journaled 100's of experiments and over many years learned specific things that trigger genetic responses that improve the final product and have openly shared them (mostly) here. Hell I have 4 experiments goin right now, I never stop, I take figurin this stuff out very seriously and I'm truly sorry that folks think I have a big ego ( I don't) or that I'm braggin (I'm not) I'm tryin to share in the only way I have figured how some folks get it, some don't and I'm ok with that

 

[ttystikk]

And dry nutes are cheaper than water bottles, @MichiganMedGrower so why change?

And I walked away from HPS lamps long ago, I'll be all LED very shortly.

The sad fact is that this industry is full of ignorant consumers who believe the blatant bullshit sold to them by hydro stores and the distribution companies that move the product.

There's too much bro science and not enough of the real thing.

@RM3's techniques are supported by what the rest of the ag industry does in similar circumstances. Ever wonder why pot is marketed is a 'different' plant? It's just so they can better rip off the under informed consumers common in this industry.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

What are you talking about? I was asking you about adjusting the dry mix to have some ammonium and you never answered.

The mix you showed is for pure hydro.

And I don't know why either of you are defensive. I learned to grow better by consulting the breeder of my genetics. He recommends HPS. And my results show it is best. i came in to read about vertical lighting and dry nutes. I am considering both. Not getting any help here but I did ask sincerely.

And I have not been an ignorant consumer in my whole life. In fact I was a car dealer manager for many years before my illness got the best of me. I read and learn. And have respect for those who do also. Like both of you guys.

But the selling of unproven methods that are actually unproven and the ego to believe you are better at this than others or even have such better pot that I must change to your way or fail in my mission for my meds to work as well as I need is not helpful.

Sharing the knowledge you have gained without an agenda would be.

And all I really said and showed. That my buds have become potent and with very high level sativa expression from the hybrids. Using the conventional methods that even the breeder who was growing in Mendocino in 93' at the start of all the medical grows still recommends.

Oh and I live real far out in the country and the only supplies available in town is fox farm. So I thought I would try it. It's goofy with the cal and mag only in the bloom bottle but with the organic bottle and some mixing I am dialed in pretty quick. They all pretty much work.

 

[RM3]

And I don't know why either of you are defensive.

I think it comes from gettin bashed every day but is not intended

But the selling of unproven methods that are actually unproven and the ego to believe you are better at this than others or even have such better pot that I must change to your way or fail in my mission for my meds to work as well as I need is not helpful.

IMO there is a difference between confidence and ego, and my methods are fairly proven as they have been duplicated by many. But I honestly don't ever say you need to grow exactly like me, I more teach how to read the plant and respond to what you see. There are plenty of growers still usin HPS that have added a few T5's to enhance the spectrum

The biggest single thing I teach differently is how to cure em

 

[Yodaweed]

You still teaching people to pour boiling water on their roots or if their plants smell they are doing something wrong @RM3?

 

[RM3]

You still teaching people to pour boiling water on their roots or if their plants smell they are doing something wrong @RM3?

yeppers and still takin crap every day for it

well except not from the growers that do it because they have learned it works

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I know of your boiling method but you never say how you dry and cure.

But as always it will be your perception that it is better. Fairly proven and duplicated by many are not very scientific phrases.

I am always open to learning. I am not even arguing with anything about anyone's methods. Just that many work well.

But I can not be sold on your opinion.

 

[Yodaweed]

yeppers and still takin crap every day for it

well except not from the growers that do it because they have learned it works

They learned to not make their plants smell? Must be growing a different strain than me mine always stink.

 

[RM3]

I know of your boiling method but you never say how you dry and cure.

But as always it will be your perception that it is better. Fairly proven and duplicated by many are not very scientific phrases.

I am always open to learning. I am not even arguing with anything about anyone's methods. Just that many work well.

But I can not be sold on your opinion.

Tis the only thing in my books I have not openly shared and is very different from what is taught every where, I take enough crap as it is

and not tryin to sell my opinion

 

[RM3]

They learned to not make their plants smell? Must be growing a different strain than me mine always stink.

yeppers, it's not hard to do

I have an original 70's Skunk X Afghan growing right now known as one of the funkiest strains ever, growin with zero smells in my garden

 

[Yodaweed]

yeppers, it's not hard to do

I have an original 70's Skunk X Afghan growing right now known as one of the funkiest strains ever, growin with zero smells in my garden

Have you ever grown gorilla glue#4 or white fire og? They smell so strong of chem just coming near them you catch a huge wiff, it makes your whole grow area and outside it stink. Maybe you aren't growing stinky plants.

 

[Yodaweed]

I think you might be growing some crappy strains bro if they don't smell that's cause the genetics probably suck, you growing Mexican brick weed it sounds like.

 

[RM3]

Have you ever grown gorilla glue#4 or white fire og? They smell so strong of chem just coming near them you catch a huge wiff, it makes your whole grow area and outside it stink. Maybe you aren't growing stinky plants.

No, but I could, I have access to the cuts, just have not had the desire to grow em?

I have several Headbands (NYCD X OG) goin and Dr.D81's Bear Creek Kush as well as a land race Dalat and several of my strains