Is NASA stupid, or are they lying?

Is NASA incompetent or lying, or do you trust NASA?


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squarepush3r

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Is the organization that landed 12 men on the Moon stupid or lying, or do you trust them?

Neil Armstrong - Apollo 11 (1969)
Buzz Aldrin - Apollo 11 (1969)
Pete Conrad - Apollo 12 (1969)
Alan Bean - Apollo 12 (1969)
Alan Shepard - Apollo 14 (1971)
Edgar Mitchell - Apollo 14 (1971)
David Scott - Apollo 15 (1971)
James Irwin - Apollo 15 (1971)
John Young - Apollo 16 (1972)
Charles Duke - Apollo 16 (1972)
Eugene Cernan - Apollo 17 (1972)
Harrison Schmitt - Apollo 17 (1972)

The Moon is ~250,000 miles from Earth, it rotates at ~27 Earth days (Sidereal rotation period = 27.321 days) always showing the same face

So, are these thousands of people incompetent?
Apparently private companies like SpaceX and Stratolaunch are the future of space travel, despite NASAs huge head start and funding. What happened?

It seems that NASA now just siphons government funding in exchange for altering climate data and spreading global warming alarmist points of view. This is a much better business model for them I guess.
http://principia-scientific.org/nasa-exposed-in-massive-new-climate-data-fraud/
 
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UncleBuck

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altering climate data and spreading global warming alarmist points of view.
why would they have to alter the data? we're going through the hottest year on record by far (again).

can you explain what evidence you have for this conspiracy theory, and why it is only found on right wing conspiracy blogs and breitbart.com?
 

Padawanbater2

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NASA was so sucessful it went out of the shuttle business... And they were not even required to make a profit... LOL!!
What other agency has landed on the Moon?

Yeah, I'd call that a pretty big success

Not to mention the countless applications NASA has contributed to since its inception. Something like every dollar spent by NASA has produced $12 of return

Yeah, I'd call that a pretty big success

But I can see how someone suffering from libertardation might not see it that way..
 

NLXSK1

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What other agency has landed on the Moon?

Yeah, I'd call that a pretty big success

Not to mention the countless applications NASA has contributed to since its inception. Something like every dollar spent by NASA has produced $12 of return

Yeah, I'd call that a pretty big success

But I can see how someone suffering from libertardation might not see it that way..
NASA is an organization. The people that got us to the moon have long since retired. Now they are a political arm of the global warming agenda... THANKS OBAMA!!!

Better not shit on the Russians too much, they are our only ride to the space station... THANKS OBAMA!!!

NASA is a joke now.... THANKS OBAMA!!!
 

squarepush3r

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why would they have to alter the data? we're going through the hottest year on record by far (again).

can you explain what evidence you have for this conspiracy theory, and why it is only found on right wing conspiracy blogs and breitbart.com?
They don't even deny they went back and changed 100+ years of temperature data. This is not conspiracy, its open data that they will admit. The way they frame it, is that climate scientists create "computer models" that predict how temperature should be according to CO2 emissions or whatever theory they have on global temperature. Then if that data doesn't fit they go back in history and "adjust" it, basically saying that our carbon theory says this, so the previous data must be wrong if it doesn't fit with out computer model so we are going to adjust it because the old equipment was probably wrong or whatever. So the new temperature data we are hearing about it starts off as some raw temperature measurement from a weather station somewhere, then its run through the really smart climate scientists computer to "fix" it, and then this is the final data they release to the news sites and documented as final temperature. As mentioned, they have also gone back in history before computers even existed to fix the data to better meet their expectations or desired results (whatever you call it).





http://realclimatescience.com/history-of-nasanoaa-temperature-corruption/

Also, I see no reason why this should be a political issue at all. Science is "science" and operates regardless of what your opinion is. However, realistically it has become a modern political issue I think mainly because Al Gore (politician) spearheaded his movie and forced it into the mainstream. Since then, its become a kind of political football around the world.

Also, Al Gore's net worth was about 1 Million in 2000 when he ran for president. Currently it is closer to 200 Million. He did quite well for himself off the climate change horse (is he really selfless trying to save the world, or looking to personally profit, or does it not matter?)
 

UncleBuck

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They don't even deny they went back and changed 100+ years of temperature data. This is not conspiracy, its open data that they will admit. The way they frame it, is that climate scientists create "computer models" that predict how temperature should be according to CO2 emissions or whatever theory they have on global temperature. Then if that data doesn't fit they go back in history and "adjust" it, basically saying that our carbon theory says this, so the previous data must be wrong if it doesn't fit with out computer model so we are going to adjust it because the old equipment was probably wrong or whatever. So the new temperature data we are hearing about it starts off as some raw temperature measurement from a weather station somewhere, then its run through the really smart climate scientists computer to "fix" it, and then this is the final data they release to the news sites and documented as final temperature. As mentioned, they have also gone back in history before computers even existed to fix the data to better meet their expectations or desired results (whatever you call it).





http://realclimatescience.com/history-of-nasanoaa-temperature-corruption/

Also, I see no reason why this should be a political issue at all. Science is "science" and operates regardless of what your opinion is. However, realistically it has become a modern political issue I think mainly because Al Gore (politician) spearheaded his movie and forced it into the mainstream. Since then, its become a kind of political football around the world.

Also, Al Gore's net worth was about 1 Million in 2000 when he ran for president. Currently it is closer to 200 Million. He did quite well for himself off the climate change horse (is he really selfless trying to save the world, or looking to personally profit, or does it not matter?)
realclimatescience.com is a much better website than fakeclimatescience.com in my opinion.

information is like food. if you put shitty food into your body, you feel like shit, look like shit and move like shit. when you consume shitty information like this, your argument looks like shit, smells like shit, and is just generally shitty.

come back when you have some actual proof of anything, and not just "hey look at these pictures! and AL GORE!".

fucking moron.
 

ThickStemz

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Do you really think NASA hasn't landed on the moon? Really?
You chose to quote a post where I said they dont lie about having gone to the moon? If I was unclear, I apologize, but in that quote I meant they cover up ET evidence, but they actually did go to the moon so they don't lie about it.
 

RickyBobby26

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You chose to quote a post where I said they dont lie about having gone to the moon? If I was unclear, I apologize, but in that quote I meant they cover up ET evidence, but they actually did go to the moon so they don't lie about it.
OK, sorry. I misunderstood. I'm quite high. :)
 

Fogdog

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They don't even deny they went back and changed 100+ years of temperature data. This is not conspiracy, its open data that they will admit. The way they frame it, is that climate scientists create "computer models" that predict how temperature should be according to CO2 emissions or whatever theory they have on global temperature. Then if that data doesn't fit they go back in history and "adjust" it, basically saying that our carbon theory says this, so the previous data must be wrong if it doesn't fit with out computer model so we are going to adjust it because the old equipment was probably wrong or whatever. So the new temperature data we are hearing about it starts off as some raw temperature measurement from a weather station somewhere, then its run through the really smart climate scientists computer to "fix" it, and then this is the final data they release to the news sites and documented as final temperature. As mentioned, they have also gone back in history before computers even existed to fix the data to better meet their expectations or desired results (whatever you call it).





http://realclimatescience.com/history-of-nasanoaa-temperature-corruption/

Also, I see no reason why this should be a political issue at all. Science is "science" and operates regardless of what your opinion is. However, realistically it has become a modern political issue I think mainly because Al Gore (politician) spearheaded his movie and forced it into the mainstream. Since then, its become a kind of political football around the world.

Also, Al Gore's net worth was about 1 Million in 2000 when he ran for president. Currently it is closer to 200 Million. He did quite well for himself off the climate change horse (is he really selfless trying to save the world, or looking to personally profit, or does it not matter?)
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Unclebaldrick

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...continued

But, in fact, it's always prossible to prove an untruth! Look at the man standing next to you in line. Does he have one billion dollars in pennies in his pocket? Is it impossible to prove he does not? Is a banana blue? Is it impossible to prove a banana is not blue? Is 2 plus 2 equal to 5? Is it equal to 6, or 7, or 8? When you prove 2 plus 2 is 4, you also prove 2 plus 2 is not equal to 5, 2 plus 2 is not equal to 6, 2 plus 2 is not equal to 7, and so on!

When you prove a positive of a statement, at the same time you prove the negative of every alternative to that statement!

But, for that matter, who's asking him to prove a negative?

If the U.S. reached the moon, he would be proving a positive!

They never said you can't prove a positive! And, if the U.S. did reach the moon, then it should be possible to prove that statement!

In the end, though, it is a lie to say, "you cannot prove a negative"!

And everyone who has said it is a liar!

There is a rule in the law, "false in one, false in all". That means that, if you catch someone in a lie, you are not only allowed to disbelieve everything else they say, you are required to!

Phil Plait says, "These true believers don't live in an evidence-based world." In fact, the "evidence" of the moon landing, from simply saying it's true and ordering you to believe it or you will be ridiculed; to providing things they order you to believe are "moon rocks", yet refuse to allow you to examine; to providing grainy and over-exposed film; to providing photographs that are not proved not to be fake; to lying that "you can't prove a negative" is not evidence at all!

There is not a single scrap of verifiable, legitimate evidence that the U.S. reached the moon!

If someone chooses to lie to you, that is their sin against you, but if you choose to believe it, it is your sin against yourself! If the public shows the willingness overall to subject government lies to the scrutiny of examination, the liars will constantly be thinking twice about acting with regard for the public's conscience. Demonstrate a wholesale disinterest in questioning deceit and government will do whatever they want, not even trying to maintain an appearance of propriety! There was a day when concern for public opinion would have kept a president from launching an unprovoked attack against an aggressor nation! No longer. And it is drooling public obsequiousness to demonstrably unproved claims like the moon landing that has provided the sieve, indicated to government just how willing the majority of Americans are to accept high placed lies! Quisling cravenness has already wreaked immeasurable damage on the planet; to prolong that abomination is to embrace ruining life on this planet utterly!



Julian Penrod
Can you explain the middle part?
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
Is the organization that landed 12 men on the Moon stupid or lying, or do you trust them?

Neil Armstrong - Apollo 11 (1969)
Buzz Aldrin - Apollo 11 (1969)
Pete Conrad - Apollo 12 (1969)
Alan Bean - Apollo 12 (1969)
Alan Shepard - Apollo 14 (1971)
Edgar Mitchell - Apollo 14 (1971)
David Scott - Apollo 15 (1971)
James Irwin - Apollo 15 (1971)
John Young - Apollo 16 (1972)
Charles Duke - Apollo 16 (1972)
Eugene Cernan - Apollo 17 (1972)
Harrison Schmitt - Apollo 17 (1972)

The Moon is ~250,000 miles from Earth, it rotates at ~27 Earth days (Sidereal rotation period = 27.321 days) always showing the same face

So, are these thousands of people incompetent?

They`re crafty,..didn`t you pay attention to the countdown ? 5-3-2-1- Zero liftoff....
 
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