Changing from CFL to HID - recommendations

[wsntme]

Not if your younger than 50 I hear lol.

32....but I also use the word "lamp" where many people would choose to say "bulb".

 

[Budley Doright]

Kind of like tomato tomoto lol

 

[bryan oconner]

Yes Brian she does look hot, just an FYI I'm a lower unit type so more of those would be greatly appreciated, here's my dog with his "Plenty of fish" profile pic View attachment 3750827

nice looking dog. I was tempted to post a very nice pic my woman working in her plant room wearing her birthday suit but I don't think roolitup would approve lol

 

[Budley Doright]

nice looking dog. I was tempted to post a very nice pic my woman working in her plant room wearing her birthday suit but I don't think roolitup would approve lol

I would

 

[Budley Doright]

And yes Ben is a nice looking dog but as dumb as a stump lol.

 

[Budley Doright]

Oh and yup that's his couch hence the mud lol, he sleeps on the porch when he gets stinky from swimming all day, catches fish .

 

[SoOLED]

Two recomendations...

1- Buy a 600w switchable ballast so you get a choice of 250w/400w/600w.

2- Never use cfls again.

why not use the CFL's to veg the next, tray. or whatever.

 

[THE KONASSURE]

3 to 4 plants I`d bloom with a 400w hps or mh or even a 600w if I could cool it and wanted monster plants in 60L pots

I`d look into cmh or LED or even induction lamps, you can get a 200w to 500w induction lamp pretty cheap and 100w cob leds are good just need 1 per plant 3000k or 5000k people seem to get .5g to 2g per watt easy

Kinda depends heat wise, how much air you can move and how much space and electric you have that you can use

 

[bryan oconner]

Oh and yup that's his couch hence the mud lol, he sleeps on the porch when he gets stinky from swimming all day, catches fish .

don't dogs live a tuff life .I would trade a dog for a week . and he can do my job I bet he would hate it . how often do we get excited as they do all we have to say is car ride and they are jumping all over . that's like us winning the lottery

 

[Budley Doright]

I put my shoes on and he goes crazy lol. But he's great cover for pot watering just out for a walk lol.

 

[Kingrow1]

why not use the CFL's to veg the next, tray. or whatever.

Cfls suck, they need to come up with a better design.

 

[bryan oconner]

well cfl work well for baby plants that are under 1 inch tall not much of a advantage using higer power lights buy over 2 inches tall I agree cfl suck my d,,,,, ,,,, , ,,, k

 

[Budley Doright]

Cfls suck, they need to come up with a better design.

They have, it's called T5's . I have great luck using them right up to the switch.

 

[bryan oconner]

better yet I posted about a t8 drop in led bulb made by phillips I swear by them for veg and clone . saves 35 watts per bulb . growth is tight node spacing tighter then a mh . zero stretch . healthy light . I have a bunch of leafs actually curling around one of the led bulbs I never raised it I don't go in that room often not burnt at all .

 

[Colo MMJ]

You beat me to it.
You don't even have to go to Amazon. You can get some totally decent full kits even from Home Depots website. I ended up ordering just a light and they didn't have the one I ordered in stock.
They upgraded it for the same price with an adjustable ballast. Ballast also has a nice little self cooling system.
But their lights will get the job done and won't kill your wallet.
Just make sure you order a MH bulb along with it if you plan on using MH for veg. Because they usually come with a HPS bulb.

+1 600 watt that is dimmable (adjustable) or even a 1000 watt that is dimmable.

 

[Budley Doright]

better yet I posted about a t8 drop in led bulb made by phillips I swear by them for veg and clone . saves 35 watts per bulb . growth is tight node spacing tighter then a mh . zero stretch . healthy light . I have a bunch of leafs actually curling around one of the led bulbs I never raised it I don't go in that room often not burnt at all .

I did see that thread and yes very interested in them. So just to clarify they fit right in the t5 fixture and no other mods required? Just wondering if I could use 2 out of 4 in my hood and add different T5 tubes as well.

 

[bryan oconner]

I bought the ones from homedepot they do NOT fit into a t5 hood only a t8 or t10 bulb the advantage to this the t8 hoods or light holders are very cheap compared to the t5 . and the t8 Philips is a white color . the drop in for the t5 or more then likely pink .

 

[Budley Doright]

I bought the ones from homedepot they do NOT fit into a t5 hood only a t8 or t10 bulb the advantage to this the t8 hoods or light holders are very cheap compared to the t5 . and the t8 Philips is a white color . the drop in for the t5 or more then likely pink .

Right t8's, threw all them away lol

 

[Kingrow1]

better yet I posted about a t8 drop in led bulb made by phillips I swear by them for veg and clone . saves 35 watts per bulb . growth is tight node spacing tighter then a mh . zero stretch . healthy light . I have a bunch of leafs actually curling around one of the led bulbs I never raised it I don't go in that room often not burnt at all .

The second leaves get close to a bulb the light spread is seriously hampered for lower leaves though. I have plenty of options to buy the t8 or t5 leds but after seeing them in action i couldnt see how they were a match for the t5 equivelant. 35watts saved every kilowatt hour is like nothing price wise, few cents a day, few dollars a year, really nothing significant.

I do so want to use leds but i cant justify them over my current setup. If leds start hitting 10 watts a diode id be starting to pay attention but t5's seem much better per watt and par. Purple leds seem so inneficient to white leds but their are certainly too many choices there.

No suprise that the top led growers half their wattage to get a more realistic number in comparison to mh and hps. One thread here called 'Organics and Leds' always blows my mind as to what some leds can do.

Leds still need some work to win over a lot of older growers, been waiting a while now.

 

[bryan oconner]

right a 35 watt saving x8 is a 280 watt savings . so that is 45 dollar saving a month to me . its .16 per kilowatt here . 45 bucks pays my cable bill .