Bagseed grow log

HazednConfused

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Day 13 I transplanted the oldest one to its final container, didn want root system to get crowded in the cups an she's lookin pretty good.. I took a picture of her today (15).. I'm still waiting on the other 2 to grow some, they are stretched an idk if I should bury the stem a bit er jus let it do what they do.. I plan on painting the inside white maybe it'll help with the temps, still like 90-94F last night it made it up to 97..
Nice little plant. It probably won't help much with the heat. It's more about the reflective purposes of flat white that helps get more light to different parts of your plant. You really need an exhaust fan, or leave the door open on the container while lights are on. 97 seems hella hot
 

LitRookie7414

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I posted a pic with the 2 fans, 1 of those fans was for the exhaust, an now it's hooked up it doesn't really make a difference.. I think because it's hot in the closet it jus stays hot.. temps go down to the right area wen lights are off but.... I might jus get a box fan an keep it outside of my grow box..
 

LitRookie7414

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I thought about letting the seedlings die an focus on the big one because there stretching an I heard read it causes problems later but they are a little over a week now.. an I see Calyxs but no pistils yet,
 

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MadNyeTheHydroGuy

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I thought about letting the seedlings die an focus on the big one because there stretching an I heard read it causes problems later but they are a little over a week now.. an I see Calyxs but no pistils yet,
Unless you started a flowering cycle you wont see any female traits. Up to 6 more inches and i would start LST based on your small grow space. If you want to know the sex in advance take a clone and put it in a flower cycle (seperate from the donar) and you will know one way or another.
 

growman3666

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What you see my friend are not calyxs but stipules. I'm going to stick around and watch this grow for sure. We really got to figure out a way to get those Temps down though. I can see heat stress with the curling leaves. She looks good though despite keeping squat and bushy
 

LitRookie7414

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Haven't posted in a bit but the big plant in my opinion is doing fine, the 2 small ones though... ehh.. So I moved about 3 days ago and cudn take the plants that day so I'm going to get them in the mornin maybe. I checked after not being there for about 2 days and a set of leaves were burned brown from growin into the light , I topped it.... I'm going to get some soft wire ties maybe to do LST, I looked into it and it might help achieve my goal.. the small ones i think are stretched and aren't really growin as fast as the big one.. but I haven't given up yet til I get the sex of the biggie, I kinda handled the temp in the old place, 77-88 but idk how It'll do here, I got a ac, but I don't want it to get too cold.. I'll post pics tomorrow after I get it..
 

LitRookie7414

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What you see my friend are not calyxs but stipules. I'm going to stick around and watch this grow for sure. We really got to figure out a way to get those Temps down though. I can see heat stress with the curling leaves. She looks good though despite keeping squat and bushy
Unless you started a flowering cycle you wont see any female traits. Up to 6 more inches and i would start LST based on your small grow space. If you want to know the sex in advance take a clone and put it in a flower cycle (seperate from the donar) and you will know one way or another.
Thanks for the replies, cool I thought those wer calyx, ha I'm just excited it's going well for my 1st time, so when should I flip to 12/12, right now I got it 18/6?
 

growman3666

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You can switch whenever you want to my man. The last pics I've seen were July 27 so I'm sure it's much bigger now.
 

LitRookie7414

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the big baby is 32 days old an the little ones are 22 days by my count, if I switched to flowering now my little ones would switch as well? they aren't as big.. what should I do?
 

growman3666

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the big baby is 32 days old an the little ones are 22 days by my count, if I switched to flowering now my little ones would switch as well? they aren't as big.. what should I do?
Yes they would switch too. How much space do you have in that cabinet? Expect the plant to stretch in flowet to at least double it's height now. I've seen triple before
 

LitRookie7414

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I think it's maybe 2 ft wide, |----| maybe 1.5 ft long // and about 6 ft tall.. it's it's a bookcase, I took the shelves out off an cut holes in the back for the fans..
 

LitRookie7414

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one more thing.. I had planned to train the plant but if I switched to flower this week I won't be able to train much right? I read that you should do all training in veg stage..
 

growman3666

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one more thing.. I had planned to train the plant but if I switched to flower this week I won't be able to train much right? I read that you should do all training in veg stage..
Ok you have plenty height then. Yeah you should most of your training in veg but in early flower it is ok to train your plants to even out the canopy. Only low stress training though. High stress training could potentially stress the plant out too much.
 

MadNyeTheHydroGuy

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the big baby is 32 days old an the little ones are 22 days by my count, if I switched to flowering now my little ones would switch as well? they aren't as big.. what should I do?
If its not too late, just take the big one and slowly (incrementally over the course of a few days) bend the main stalk down so most of the stalk is horizontal. What this will do is hopefully set this plant at a level that it is now lower than the others, and the side shoots (the tiny leaves near the stalk) will start growing up towards the light. This manages your cramped space and provides you with more colas. The top of your plant is going to keep attempting to reorient itself towards the light, but just make sure you keep it lower than the new shoots.
 

MadNyeTheHydroGuy

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Ok you have plenty height then. Yeah you should most of your training in veg but in early flower it is ok to train your plants to even out the canopy. Only low stress training though. High stress training could potentially stress the plant out too much.
You really want to avoid stress training during flowering, get it all out of the way before you start. Also, that plant is going to double (at least) in height during flower, just something to keep in mind :)

For growers in cramped growing spaces, stress training is something to really consider.
 

LitRookie7414

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ok I don't want to stunt growth or anything so what If I defoliate, like cut maybe 3 pairs of big fan leaves at the main stem then switch to 12/12, bending would only get light to the half that's on the side facing upwards though right?
 

MadNyeTheHydroGuy

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ok I don't want to stunt growth or anything so what If I defoliate, like cut maybe 3 pairs of big fan leaves at the main stem then switch to 12/12, bending would only get light to the half that's on the side facing upwards though right?
The thing with that is
A) the plant isnt really big enough to start chopping alot of foliage, although it technically can be done and there are grow styles based on it, although typicaly they will have like 20 or so plants all that size clustered together, and really they are aiming for one main cola each plant, and not counting on alot of weight from any one in particular.

B) that plant doesnt have too many sets of fan leaves to begin with. Remember that those leaves primary function is to collect light and store it as energy (among other things, like co2) to use to make more plant. Any leaves you remove will make it that much less efficient at doing so. IF you were going to remove fan leaves, i would recomend doing so starting from the lowest set (the ones closest to the soil) and working your way up until you are satisfied. That way there are still leaves close to the light.

C) IF you decide to chop, you are going to want to give the plant some time to heal before you switch to flower. When you chop the plant, its going to know its damaged, and its going to start healing itself. That puts it under certain levels of shock, depending on how much you chopped. Throwing it under 12/12 will trigger hormone changes in the plant and with that much stress on it, you MAY get a hermaphrodite, if it was female. Stress during flower can trigger this. You generally want to avoid this, as your plant is now using bud resources to make pollen, and you are going to get seedy buds.

D) IF you decide to chop, make sure your tools are sterile and the cut is clean (not ragged), otherwise it could get infected.

Bending the plant (or LST) is going to do a few things.

A) its going to effectively move the top few pairs of fan leaves out of the way, allowing light to reach the middle/lower leaves more effectively, without having to chop. Dont worry about whats going to be pointed at the light, every leaf on that plant is going to point itself back towards the light source, and start growing towards it.

B) there are growth hormones in the top of the plant in the new growth (the little curled up delicate leaves at the very tippy top of the stalk) that tell the plant to grow up. Thats why you see the plant growing taller rather than wider. When you bend the plant on its side, and bring the top shoot lower than the shoots farther down along the stalk (the tiny leaves close to the main stem) the plant knows what happened and knows those tiny leaves are closer to the light now, and will redistribute those hormones to the tiny leaves, telling them to grow up towards the light. What this means is instead of having one main bud site with several little ones along the stem, you now have a row of several medium bud sites including the main one.

C) bending the plant is going to accomplish what you are looking for (bringing more light to lower leaves) without having to chop or hobble the plant. No risk of infection, no risk of shock, no loss of plant production. Its also going to give you more room to grow (remember anything growing towards the light is going to double in size during flower)

IF it were me, i would bend the plant. But keep in mind that going your route isnt going to melt your face, kill your parents, or implode the sun. Your plant is going to grow regardless, im just recomending ideal techniques to get the most out of your space and resources.

How much space do you have from the top of your ceramic pot to the light?
 

LitRookie7414

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soooo I moved and this is what happened, a couple pair of leaves on the plant got chopped on accident and a small set died.. the lights got cut off at the old place thurs. I got them in Fri. had lights on today from about 4-230 while I was at work.. the 2 little ones made it no problems..
 

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