Donald Trump, Russian Agent?

Fogdog

Fogdog

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The Donald has said some strange things, well, a lot of strange things. Among the chaff like "founding ISIS" and "2nd amendment" are some strange words of support for Putin and the Russian government.

He's not even being secretive, these are some of his campaign promises:
  • Trump's presidency would break the NATO alliance
  • Trump's presidency would recognize Russia's land grab in the Crimea
  • Trump would consider Putin a friend and adviser
  • Trump repeats verbatim Russian propaganda regarding the founding of ISIS by Obama
Questions are being asked. Is it true that in return for his promises to re-make Russia into the kind of world power it enjoyed being as the USSR, Russia is using it's intelligence agents to hack and smear the Democratic party.

Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-
opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?tid=a_inl

Is it now true that the Republican Party is not just using Red as a standard color but is now Red as in the Russian dictator's political arm in the US? There is good reason to believe that Trump won't release his tax returns because it will highlight his relationship with Moscow.
 
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Fogdog

Fogdog

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Shouldn't there be an investigation into the questionable actions of Donald Trump and his relationship with the Russian Government?

http://www.inquisitr.com/3342943/donald-trump-russia-connection/

THE DONALD TRUMP RUSSIA CONNECTION: 5 FACTS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT CANDIDATE’S POSSIBLE TIES TO PUTIN

with Russia being named as the culprit behind the theft and subsequent WikiLeaks release of the emails, it is now becoming clear according to numerous media reports, that the ties between Donald Trump and Russia run much deeper and go back further than simply the email hack — and that Vladimir Putin may be actively attempting to tilt the United States 2016 presidential election toward Trump.

numerous journalists this weekend have asked whether the DNC email hack was “a favor” to Donald Trump from Vladimir Putin and the government of Russia.

Trump Has Repeatedly Praised Vladimir Putin
As far back as 2007, Donald Trump lauded Vladimir Putin for “rebuilding Russia,” saying that Putin did a better job of running his country than President George W. Bush did as president of the United States, according to a report by Franklin Foer of the online magazine Slate, a report accessible at this link.

In 2013, after Vladimir Putin published an anti-American op-ed column in The New York Times, Trump hailed the essay as “a masterpiece.” Trump also denies that a Putin has ordered political rivals and critics assassinated, though most experts agree that there is plenty of evidence to support the accusation. If indeed Putin had his rivals killed, Trump seemed to give the Russian leader a pass, saying, “at least he’s a leader.”

Russian Media And Propaganda Has Supported Donald Trump
The cable TV and online news network RT is owned by the Russian government and serves as the English language voice of Russia in the United States, Politico Magazine reported in April, in an article about the Trump-RT connection titled, “The Kremlin’s Candidate.”

Vladimir Putin Has Interfered In Foreign Elections Before
“Vladimir Putin has a plan for destroying the West — and that plan looks a lot like Donald Trump,” wrote Foer in his Slate report published Thursday.

Russian Hackers Infiltrated DNC Servers For A Year
According to a Washington Post report in June, Russia-based computer hackers who, the DNC admitted, stole a sensitive “opposition research” document about Donald Trump, had actually gained access to the DNC servers for “about a year” and were not driven out until a major security check in mid-June.

The DNC emails published by WikiLeaks dated from the primary campaign season — during the same time the Russian hackers had access to DNC internal computers.

Russia denied any connection to the hacks, and an anonymous hacker with the online name “Guccifer 2.0” claimed credit for breaking into the DNC servers.


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/3342943/donald-trump-russia-connection/#cy1kS6EXAr2eXAyf.99
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
The Donald has said some strange things, well, a lot of strange things. Among the chaff like "founding ISIS" and "2nd amendment" are some strange words of support for Putin and the Russian government.

He's not even being secretive, these are some of his campaign promises:
  • Trump's presidency would break the NATO alliance
  • Trump's presidency would recognize Russia's land grab in the Crimea
  • Trump would consider Putin a friend and adviser
  • Trump repeats verbatim Moscow's KGB propaganda regarding the founding of ISIS by Obama
Questions are being asked. Is it true that in return for his promises to re-make Russia into the kind of world power it enjoyed being as the USSR, Russia is using it's intelligence agents to hack and smear the Democratic party.

Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-
opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?tid=a_inl

Is it now true that the Republican Party is not just using Red as a standard color but is now Red as in the Russian dictator's political arm in the US? There is good reason to believe that Trump won't release his tax returns because it will highlight his relationship with the Kremlin.
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Not really sure, but he does seem to be a Kremlin Candidate.
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
Shouldn't there be an investigation into the questionable actions of Donald Trump and his relationship with the Russian Government?

http://www.inquisitr.com/3342943/donald-trump-russia-connection/

THE DONALD TRUMP RUSSIA CONNECTION: 5 FACTS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT CANDIDATE’S POSSIBLE TIES TO PUTIN

with Russia being named as the culprit behind the theft and subsequent WikiLeaks release of the emails, it is now becoming clear according to numerous media reports, that the ties between Donald Trump and Russia run much deeper and go back further than simply the email hack — and that Vladimir Putin may be actively attempting to tilt the United States 2016 presidential election toward Trump.

numerous journalists this weekend have asked whether the DNC email hack was “a favor” to Donald Trump from Vladimir Putin and the government of Russia.

Trump Has Repeatedly Praised Vladimir Putin
As far back as 2007, Donald Trump lauded Vladimir Putin for “rebuilding Russia,” saying that Putin did a better job of running his country than President George W. Bush did as president of the United States, according to a report by Franklin Foer of the online magazine Slate, a report accessible at this link.

In 2013, after Vladimir Putin published an anti-American op-ed column in The New York Times, Trump hailed the essay as “a masterpiece.” Trump also denies that a Putin has ordered political rivals and critics assassinated, though most experts agree that there is plenty of evidence to support the accusation. If indeed Putin had his rivals killed, Trump seemed to give the Russian leader a pass, saying, “at least he’s a leader.”

Russian Media And Propaganda Has Supported Donald Trump
The cable TV and online news network RT is owned by the Russian government and serves as the English language voice of Russia in the United States, Politico Magazine reported in April, in an article about the Trump-RT connection titled, “The Kremlin’s Candidate.”

Vladimir Putin Has Interfered In Foreign Elections Before
“Vladimir Putin has a plan for destroying the West — and that plan looks a lot like Donald Trump,” wrote Foer in his Slate report published Thursday.

Russian Hackers Infiltrated DNC Servers For A Year
According to a Washington Post report in June, Russia-based computer hackers who, the DNC admitted, stole a sensitive “opposition research” document about Donald Trump, had actually gained access to the DNC servers for “about a year” and were not driven out until a major security check in mid-June.

The DNC emails published by WikiLeaks dated from the primary campaign season — during the same time the Russian hackers had access to DNC internal computers.

Russia denied any connection to the hacks, and an anonymous hacker with the online name “Guccifer 2.0” claimed credit for breaking into the DNC servers.


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/3342943/donald-trump-russia-connection/#cy1kS6EXAr2eXAyf.99
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TBH Trump is one dumb mofo..he's like a girl desperate for attention because of daddy issues. The least little amount of praise..mirror..mirror..on the wall..tell us who is the most orange of us all?

I'm starting to have nightmares about Armageddon..I can hardly stand politics right now. I almost don't even wish to know any more in this current climate..digression is worse than an @UncleBuck thread on "cuckhold, racism and you".
 
squarepush3r

squarepush3r

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This argument is purely absurd, simply based on the grounds that in order for it to be true, Russia would of had to force or trick the DNC to act corrupt and fraudulently in the first place. Then hack their system and leak the emails to the opposing candidates favor.

Occam Razor suggests this is not the case. And if it was the case, then the DNC is also acting complicity with Russia on this.
 
bluntmassa1

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Better than Hillary who has taken millions of dollars from Saudi Arabia into her Clinton Foundation. The same Saudis who funded Al Qaeda when they attacked the World Trade Center.

I fail to see a problem with Russia personally we should be working with them against terrorism meanwhile Hillary has an ex CIA goon trying to get into her cabinet who wants to covertly kill Russian and Iranian soldiers who are fighting terrorists!!

But Democrat sheep think Obama is actually fighting ISIS when in reality we are cool with ISIS at least until Assad is dead but then we will just move them to the next nation to destroy while NATO puts it's own government in power in Syria like Iraq and Afghanistan.

OK so Russia took Crimea but guess what they didn't fire a single shot. Meanwhile Israel is stealing land and killing many people.

All Putin wants is to end terrorism and the enemy of my enemy is a friend. Russia is much better than Saudi Arabia as well.
 
cat of curiosity

cat of curiosity

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Fogdog said:
The Donald has said some strange things, well, a lot of strange things. Among the chaff like "founding ISIS" and "2nd amendment" are some strange words of support for Putin and the Russian government.

He's not even being secretive, these are some of his campaign promises:
  • Trump's presidency would break the NATO alliance
  • Trump's presidency would recognize Russia's land grab in the Crimea
  • Trump would consider Putin a friend and adviser
  • Trump repeats verbatim Moscow's KGB propaganda regarding the founding of ISIS by Obama
Questions are being asked. Is it true that in return for his promises to re-make Russia into the kind of world power it enjoyed being as the USSR, Russia is using it's intelligence agents to hack and smear the Democratic party.

Russian government hackers penetrated DNC, stole opposition research on Trump
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-government-hackers-penetrated-dnc-stole-
opposition-research-on-trump/2016/06/14/cf006cb4-316e-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html?tid=a_inl

Is it now true that the Republican Party is not just using Red as a standard color but is now Red as in the Russian dictator's political arm in the US? There is good reason to believe that Trump won't release his tax returns because it will highlight his relationship with the Kremlin.
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didn't know that isis was around for the kgb to comment on...

Kryuchkov served as the Chairman of the KGB until August 18, 1991, when he and seven other key members of the Soviet government attempted an ultimately unsuccessful coup against Mikhail Gorbachev, leader of the Soviet party from 1985 until the party's dissolution on December 25, 1991.

The KGB was disbanded in 1991 with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Its duties concerning security inside the country were spread among several different agencies. Most of the responsibilities were succeeded by the Russian security service - the FSB.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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cat of curiosity said:
didn't know that isis was around for the kgb to comment on...

Kryuchkov served as the Chairman of the KGB until August 18, 1991, when he and seven other key members of the Soviet government attempted an ultimately unsuccessful coup against Mikhail Gorbachev, leader of the Soviet party from 1985 until the party's dissolution on December 25, 1991.

The KGB was disbanded in 1991 with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Its duties concerning security inside the country were spread among several different agencies. Most of the responsibilities were succeeded by the Russian security service - the FSB.
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Ok, whatever, The FSB works for me. I'll go back and fix the posts. Thanks.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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squarepush3r said:
This argument is purely absurd, simply based on the grounds that in order for it to be true, Russia would of had to force or trick the DNC to act corrupt and fraudulently in the first place. Then hack their system and leak the emails to the opposing candidates favor.

Occam Razor suggests this is not the case. And if it was the case, then the DNC is also acting complicity with Russia on this.
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Exactly how is the DNC complicit?

Given all the extreme and false shit put out about Hillary and the extreme stuff the orange one says, this isn't out of bounds at all. The Donald said he would recognize Moscow's annexation of the Crimea and practically the next day, the DNC e-mails were made public. Occam's Razor is a great tool for winnowing scientific theory but political theory?
 
Fogdog

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bluntmassa1 said:
Better than Hillary who has taken millions of dollars from Saudi Arabia into her Clinton Foundation. The same Saudis who funded Al Qaeda when they attacked the World Trade Center.

I fail to see a problem with Russia personally we should be working with them against terrorism meanwhile Hillary has an ex CIA goon trying to get into her cabinet who wants to covertly kill Russian and Iranian soldiers who are fighting terrorists!!

But Democrat sheep think Obama is actually fighting ISIS when in reality we are cool with ISIS at least until Assad is dead but then we will just move them to the next nation to destroy while NATO puts it's own government in power in Syria like Iraq and Afghanistan.

OK so Russia took Crimea but guess what they didn't fire a single shot. Meanwhile Israel is stealing land and killing many people.

All Putin wants is to end terrorism and the enemy of my enemy is a friend. Russia is much better than Saudi Arabia as well.
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So you want everybody to bow to Putin. I don't think I would like that.
 
Kul

Kul

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if you've been paying attention that theory has been going around for years, it's considered a conspiracy theory. For him to come out and say that on tv was fucked.
 
cat of curiosity

cat of curiosity

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Fogdog said:
Ok, whatever, The FSB works for me. I'll go back and fix the posts. Thanks.
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you posted this:

He's not even being secretive, these are some of his campaign promises:
  • Trump's presidency would break the NATO alliance
  • Trump's presidency would recognize Russia's land grab in the Crimea
  • Trump would consider Putin a friend and adviser
  • Trump repeats verbatim Moscow's KGB propaganda regarding the founding of ISIS by Obama
Questions are being asked. Is it true that in return for his promises to re-make Russia into the kind of world power it enjoyed being as the USSR, Russia is using it's intelligence agents to hack and smear the Democratic party.
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that completely invalidates the article.

try again please.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Kul said:
if you've been paying attention that theory has been going around for years, it's considered a conspiracy theory. For him to come out and say that on tv was fucked.
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He out and out said he would recognize the annexation of Crimea by Russia. Oh sure he retracted it. In the same week he invited Russia to hack the Democratic Party. Very shortly afterward, the wikileaks came out.

This doesn't require an elaborate conspiracy theory. Some conspiracies happen. Like Watergate and the Reagan Arms for Hostages deals. They don't stay secret for long and facts come out. Just saying that when Watergate came down, there was a lot of head scratching and denial too.
 
Kul

Kul

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Fogdog said:
He out and out said he would recognize the annexation of Crimea by Russia. Oh sure he retracted it. In the same week he invited Russia to hack the Democratic Party. Very shortly afterward, the wikileaks came out.

This doesn't require an elaborate conspiracy theory. Some conspiracies happen. Like Watergate and the Reagan Arms for Hostages deals. They don't stay secret for long and facts come out. Just saying that when Watergate came down, there was a lot of head scratching and denial too.
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sorry i meant this

Among the chaff like "founding ISIS"
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Kul said:
sorry i meant this

Among the chaff like "founding ISIS"
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I was using that as background to say that some really weird and false stuff is being said. Are you saying that Obama founded Isis, if so, go away. Even Trump is saying he doesn't believe that -- much. This Russian connection, though has something behind it. He has big loans from well connected Russian investors who are tied to Putin. Something smells rotten to me.
 
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