'Why we hate you': ISIS reveal 6 reasons why they despise Westerners

[Ace Yonder]

Read the 10 commandments again. I only accept the KJV version of the bible. You can read whatever you want. The KJV states "thou shall not kill". Period.

We seem to now be repeating ourselves as you have the inability to view other peoples understandings from their view but only your own.

I understand what you are saying what your understanding is based off the fact you cannot understand what is written but rather pick and choose from what you want.

The law = 10 commandments = NEVER kill = Jesus's teachings.

Pretty simple.

Then you only accept a mistranslation, idiot. And "the Law" refers to the ENTIRE Old Testament, not just the Ten Commandments. But keep misunderstanding your shitty translation, by all means.

 

[Ace Yonder]

Well see your not making sense here.

I thought God didn't exist and did not command these things?

If God doesn't exist then surely those people are crazy....

These people are crazy. Its that fact that has caused these atrocities. It just so happens that these crazy people get together through a common pathway. It happens through loads of different things from video games to meaning of life. Fuckos attract fuckos.

I have read the Bible and disagree with ISIS. Or is that your next accusation?

To say athiests commit less murders is outrageous and only shows how you don't want to see reality or another understanding but your own...

Stalins athiestic regime. Death toll = estimated at 34 to 49 million people.

Reign of terror. Death toll= estimate 300,000

Communism as whole death toll possible up to 259,432,000 human lives.


Atheists have killed more than any war including religious EVER. Or let me guess that doesn't apply.....

You have such a weak grasp of history it is astounding.

 

[The-Budster]

You have such a weak grasp of history it is astounding.

So this never happened? Cool bro.

 

[The-Budster]

Then you only accept a mistranslation, idiot. And "the Law" refers to the ENTIRE Old Testament, not just the Ten Commandments. But keep misunderstanding your shitty translation, by all means.

Your argument is all about "interpretation" yet when someone has another interpretation from yours then they are an Idiot. Yeah you really are arrogant as fuck.

 

[Ace Yonder]

Your argument is all about "interpretation" yet when someone has another interpretation from yours then they are an Idiot. Yeah you really are arrogant as fuck.

Translation is not as subjective as you think. You choose to base your argument on semantics of a translation, when the facts are against you. Your whole argument lies on your personal interpretation of a single word, an interpretation which flies in the face of linguistic scholarship and contextual evidence, just because it fits your shallow, blanket argument better. You clearly lack the intellectual capacity to continue this conversation in any meaningful way, I have already made my point and that will be clear to anyone who reads this thread, so really I have nothing further to discuss with you.

 

[ttystikk]

Well see your not making sense here.

I thought God didn't exist and did not command these things?

If God doesn't exist then surely those people are crazy....

These people are crazy. Its that fact that has caused these atrocities. It just so happens that these crazy people get together through a common pathway. It happens through loads of different things from video games to meaning of life. Fuckos attract fuckos.

I have read the Bible and disagree with ISIS. Or is that your next accusation?

To say athiests commit less murders is outrageous and only shows how you don't want to see reality or another understanding but your own...

Stalins athiestic regime. Death toll = estimated at 34 to 49 million people.

Reign of terror. Death toll= estimate 300,000

Communism as whole death toll possible up to 259,432,000 human lives.


Atheists have killed more than any war including religious EVER. Or let me guess that doesn't apply.....

Lol your religious blinders prevent you from seeing anything objectively.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I don't.

Aren't you a Christian?

People use the bible to justify evil all the time

Do you bargain with cockroaches, or do you spray and bomb them until they are no more?

We've been bombing them for almost 16 years now and most measures conclude terrorism is worse now than it was before we started. The global war on terror is a massive failure that has only served to spend American tax dollars and end American servicemen's lives. Maybe you should rethink your favored strategy that seems to be based entirely in bravado

I guess Stalin didn't get that memo.

Stalin killed people because he believed they were a threat to his control, not because they were religious

By your definition of if he says he is then he is. Sure.

Did he follow what Christ say, probably not. I haven't got time to look into his actions. However as President of US, those guys just love killing and pillaging more than anyone. The world knows it.

How can he be a true Christian if he's responsible for the deaths of thousands of people? Didn't you say the 10 commandments forbid killing?

These people are crazy.

No they're not, they simply interpret their religious text literally

To say athiests commit less murders is outrageous and only shows how you don't want to see reality or another understanding but your own...

Stalins athiestic regime. Death toll = estimated at 34 to 49 million people.

Reign of terror. Death toll= estimate 300,000

Communism as whole death toll possible up to 259,432,000 human lives.

Atheists have killed more than any war including religious EVER. Or let me guess that doesn't apply.....

You're conflating committing atrocities with committing atrocities because of a religious influence. Stalin was an atheist, you're right. But he didn't kill people because they were religious or because they weren't atheist. He killed people because they were a threat to his power structure. People like Anders Breivik killed people because their religion told them to.

Fanatical Muslims kill people because their religion tells them to

Fanatical Christians kill abortion doctors because they believe abortion is murder because their religion and the modern day leaders of it tell them it is

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

 

[The-Budster]

You all need to stop throwing opinions around as fact.

We have cold numbers and you still refuse to accept them. Rather choosing to on your opinion.

By saying they are not crazy is wrong.

Breivik was not mentally stable at all.Taken from Wikipedia...Breivik primarily suffered from Asperger syndrome,Tourette syndrome, narcissistic personality disorder and possibly paranoidpsychosis.

This is someone who is outside the norm.

About Stalin not killing based on religion????

That's some bullshit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

Again yous seem to be using your opinion as hardcore facts. The one time actual cold numbers have been to show death tolls you fuck it up.

 

[Padawanbater2]

You all need to stop throwing opinions around as fact.

We have cold numbers and you still refuse to accept them. Rather choosing to on your opinion.

By saying they are not crazy is wrong.

Breivik was not mentally stable at all.Taken from Wikipedia...Breivik primarily suffered from Asperger syndrome,Tourette syndrome, narcissistic personality disorder and possibly paranoidpsychosis.

This is someone who is outside the norm.

About Stalin not killing based on religion????

That's some bullshit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

Again yous seem to be using your opinion as hardcore facts. The one time actual cold numbers have been to show death tolls you fuck it up.

"Communist ideology could not coexist with the continued influence of religion even as an independent institutional entity"

Just like I said. They purged religion for total control

Revisionist history aside, organized religion is still the number one killer since 1AD

 

[Lucky Luke]

Religion, creating brain washed warriors since day dot.

Ingenuous that these brain washed warriors then brain wash their own off spring, and the cycle just continues. Birth control is frowned on for a reason..breed some more brainwashed warriors! Clever marketing.

The Catholics for eg have the. "You shall not kill" as one of the major laws. Handed down by God himself. And they break this by Crusades, Burning Pagans, Death penalties for punishment and if their a soldier as their employment....

All religion should be banned. Except for the true peaceful ones like Buddhist and Pagen.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Religion, creating brain washed warriors since day dot.

Ingenuous that these brain washed warriors then brain wash their own off spring, and the cycle just continues. Birth control is frowned on for a reason..breed some more brainwashed warriors! Clever marketing.

The Catholics for eg have the. "You shall not kill" as one of the major laws. Handed down by God himself. And they break this by Crusades, Burning Pagans, Death penalties for punishment and if their a soldier as their employment....

All religion should be banned. Except for the true peaceful ones like Buddhist and Pagen.

I agree with everything you said except that all religions should be banned, sub the relatively peaceful ones

I think people should be free to believe whatever bullshit they want so long as it doesn't harm anyone else

The problem is that most organized religions, and especially the top 3 (Islam, Christianity and Judaism) do cause harm to people

So I think there should be restrictions on belief. Your belief causes people to harm others, it should be scrutinized for the bullshit it is

 

[The-Budster]

"Communist ideology could not coexist with the continued influence of religion even as an independent institutional entity"

Just like I said. They purged religion for total control

Revisionist history aside, organized religion is still the number one killer since 1AD

I'm not seeing how purging religious followers gives them a free pass from mass murder?

Murder is murder.

I'm sorry bud but you are wrong, atheistic leaders are responsible for more deaths than any religious fueled murders combined.

I have given a few examples above, it's up to you if you want to see the evidence. Nobody is saying that religious fueled murder has not killed a lot of people. However atheist murderers are responsible for FAR more therefore the argument of getting rid of certain religions is ridiculous as that has in the past led to more death and destruction than any faith.

You may be communist? And therefore I am preaching on death ears as they say. However believers have caused less pain than non-believers.

Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao Zedong.

 

[The-Budster]

I agree with everything you said except that all religions should be banned, sub the relatively peaceful ones

I think people should be free to believe whatever bullshit they want so long as it doesn't harm anyone else

The problem is that most organized religions, and especially the top 3 (Islam, Christianity and Judaism) do cause harm to people

So I think there should be restrictions on belief. Your belief causes people to harm others, it should be scrutinized for the bullshit it is

Your communist right?

 

[Padawanbater2]

I'm not seeing how purging religious followers gives them a free pass from mass murder?

Murder is murder.

Stalin purged anyone who he felt was a threat to his control. He didn't murder people because they were religious, he murdered religious people because he felt religion superceded his influence, much like how the North Korean government treats its citizens today

I'm sorry bud but you are wrong, atheistic leaders are responsible for more deaths than any religious fueled murders combined.

I have given a few examples above, it's up to you if you want to see the evidence. Nobody is saying that religious fueled murder has not killed a lot of people. However atheist murderers are responsible for FAR more therefore the argument of getting rid of certain religions is ridiculous as that has in the past led to more death and destruction than any faith.

You may be communist? And therefore I am preaching on death ears as they say. However believers have caused less pain than non-believers.

Pol Pot, Stalin and Mao Zedong.

List of major religious wars
Christianity and Violence
Islam and War

 

[Lucky Luke]

With all due respect for your views Bud..But just Hitler killed millions for his religion. (Pan- Germany from memory??)

Christians have killed billions over the years, and still counting and make Hitler look like an amateur.

The United States (a powerful Christian superpower) has killed untold millions by itself. One true God and all that.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Your communist right?

yes..Christians dont like them..they invade them and kill them. Its a threat to the brain washing.

 

[The-Budster]

yes..Christians dont like them..they invade them and kill them. Its a threat to the brain washing.

Can you name a time where Christians killed more communists than Communists killing Christians?

Or are we just playing who can make up the biggest bullshit story here?

 

[The-Budster]

With all due respect for your views Bud..But just Hitler killed millions for his religion. (Pan- Germany from memory??)

Christians have killed billions over the years, and still counting and make Hitler look like an amateur.

The United States (a powerful Christian superpower) has killed untold millions by itself. One true God and all that.

Hitler killed far less than any of the leaders I mentioned even if you decide to use the heavily inflated number of 6,000,000

So by the logic you guys are using then athiesm kills more than faith and therefore we should irradicate atheism .....now I aint for one minute suggesting that is how we solve the problem of genocide however you seem to think that atheism would solve it. When really its cause the most deaths :/!!!

 

[ttystikk]

Can you name a time where Christians killed more communists than Communists killing Christians?

Or are we just playing who can make up the biggest bullshit story here?

Hmmmmm, off the top of my head; the Korean 'Conflict' of the 1950s, followed closely by Vietnam.

Your revisionist history is showing.

 

[ttystikk]

Hitler killed far less than any of the leaders I mentioned even if you decide to use the heavily inflated number of 6,000,000

So by the logic you guys are using then athiesm kills more than faith and therefore we should irradicate atheism .....now I aint for one minute suggesting that is how we solve the problem of genocide however you seem to think that atheism would solve it. When really its cause the most deaths :/!!!

'Heavily inflated' number? Jews didn't count their victims, THE NAZIS THEMSELVES DID.

You're pretty stupid if you think you can cherry pick history for 'facts' and ignore the rest.

Racist.