Gavita Pro 1000e DE VS Lumatek 1000 watt

[a mongo frog]

running 500-800W dropping the monthly to $50-80 not needing AC

This is where I'm not too sure about. First the A/C then the 20 bucks drop. Id rather you just tell me look its a beater light source, then lie to and tell me look it grows better buds. Because really i don't care about a 20 buck drop in power. And yes id need an A/C to go the cob route. I love cobs and what your doing. And to the OP DE's are great run hotter then id like for me. I kind of didn't understand the question though.

 

[MeGaKiLlErMaN]

This is where I'm not too sure about. First the A/C then the 20 bucks drop. Id rather you just tell me look its a beater light source, then lie to and tell me look it grows better buds. Because really i don't care about a 20 buck drop in power. And yes id need an A/C to go the cob route. I love cobs and what your doing. And to the OP DE's are great run hotter then id like for me. I kind of didn't understand the question though.

Well there was no lying at all, just facts if none bother you then keep on doing your thing..

I just prefer no maintenance and a 70,000-100,000 lifespan ( my build specific more than likely it will be more than the last number).

I know that I could have around 9 4x4s running around 400W each and I would maybe need some AC but a exhaust fan would solve the problem. Less can be more, but Im still looking for a good setup thats scale-able.

 

[a mongo frog]

Well there was no lying at all, just facts if none bother you then keep on doing your thing..

I just prefer no maintenance and a 70,000-100,000 lifespan ( my build specific more than likely it will be more than the last number).

I know that I could have around 9 4x4s running around 400W each and I would maybe need some AC but a exhaust fan would solve the problem. Less can be more, but Im still looking for a good setup thats scale-able.

Don't for get burning co2!!!!! Hot Hot Hot!!!!! I love what your doing big time. I have a shit load of shit cobs, I feel embarrassed talking about them because i feel unqualified. As soon as space opens up in my garden which hopefully is in another 4 weeks or so they will be in play. Ill just be praying the A/C can keep up with the extra wattage. I pushed the limit adding the DE. I underestimated how hot they ran.

 

[MeGaKiLlErMaN]

Don't for get burning co2!!!!! Hot Hot Hot!!!!! I love what your doing big time. I have a shit load of shit cobs, I feel embarrassed talking about them because i feel unqualified. As soon as space opens up in my garden which hopefully is in another 4 weeks or so they will be in play. Ill just be praying the A/C can keep up with the extra wattage. I pushed the limit adding the DE. I underestimated how how they ran.

Yeah it kept my 5x5x9 heated all winter long around 70-65 in Michigan. Good stuff

 

[THE KONASSURE]

Compare COBS to LEC...No contest in favor of cobs.

I said LEP not LEC bud

 

[MeGaKiLlErMaN]

I said LEP not LEC bud

lol bud because weed forum. Im aware but they are close to the same over all.

 

[THE KONASSURE]

lol bud because weed forum. Im aware but they are close to the same over all.

you think lec is anything like lep ?

your mad

lep is like an led and a laser had a baby

LEC is just another type of hid with some more spectrum options cmh`s are almost the same

 

[MeGaKiLlErMaN]

you think lec is anything like lep ?

your mad

lep is like an led and a laser had a baby

LEC is just another type of hid with some more spectrum options cmh`s are almost the same

I would like to see some grows from each, I know the quality of light is better on a plasma but till I see results I just dont trust it. Not to mention price to performance of both. Here they show around 800-1000PPF at "8in" but it looks to be a bit more than a foot. The actual usable footprint is really small. maybe a 2.5x2.5 which is the same as an LEC at least in par output.

According to what Im seeing around some people can get 1.4-1.5g/W off of LEC and thats on par with COBs...

so it really comes down to how much you want to spend and if people are happy spending well over 4 times the amount to get the same footprint as a cob setup would run them... then more power to them.

https://www.420magazine.com/forums/grow-lighting/247324-lec-315-light-emitting-ceramic-fixture.html

 

[THE KONASSURE]

I would like to see some grows from each, I know the quality of light is better on a plasma but till I see results I just dont trust it. Not to mention price to performance of both. Here they show around 800-1000PPF at "8in" but it looks to be a bit more than a foot. The actual usable footprint is really small. maybe a 2.5x2.5 which is the same as an LEC at least in par output.

According to what Im seeing around some people can get 1.4-1.5g/W off of LEC and thats on par with COBs...

so it really comes down to how much you want to spend and if people are happy spending well over 4 times the amount to get the same footprint as a cob setup would run them... then more power to them.

https://www.420magazine.com/forums/grow-lighting/247324-lec-315-light-emitting-ceramic-fixture.html

I think lep and led have one plus that works when side or above lighting and that`s that they are easy to aim all the light go`s in the same direction

where as with a hid your reflecting it to aim over 50% of the light unless your hanging a bare bulb with plants around it

I`d like to see what lep with red and maybe blue leds can do, problem is lots of LEP units seem to break down

but in a few years it could be a really good light source, just gotta work out how to make them at home, lol

 

[MeGaKiLlErMaN]

I think lep and led have one plus that works when side or above lighting and that`s that they are easy to aim all the light go`s in the same direction

where as with a hid your reflecting it to aim over 50% of the light unless your hanging a bare bulb with plants around it

I`d like to see what lep with red and maybe blue leds can do, problem is lots of LEP units seem to break down

but in a few years it could be a really good light source, just gotta work out how to make them at home, lol

DIY LEP? hmmm Ill get on that soon.... If the profit margin is anything like the Blurple LEDs Ill make my own and sell them out of my house! lol

 

[THE KONASSURE]

DIY LEP? hmmm Ill get on that soon.... If the profit margin is anything like the Blurple LEDs Ill make my own and sell them out of my house! lol

Seen some DIY kits think a 400w "usa made" kit was like $300/400 you need your own powersupply but it was just 40 or 50V so pretty easy to find one

but yeah has to be some factory in china willing to bust out the main hard bits then you just slap the rest together, before you know it you`ll be asking china for some "made in usa" stickers to put on your home made LEP`s lol

 

[MeGaKiLlErMaN]

Seen some DIY kits think a 400w "usa made" kit was like $300/400 you need your own powersupply but it was just 40 or 50V so pretty easy to find one

but yeah has to be some factory in china willing to bust out the main hard bits then you just slap the rest together, before you know it you`ll be asking china for some "made in usa" stickers to put on your home made LEP`s lol

Yeah there are constant V and Amp power supply's that would work well.

 

[Stephenj37826]

Here you go.