Wet trim vs dry trim?

[Olive Drab Green]

Not talking about the boiling water thing ODG! I'm relating to what ODIN points to. This is something found on many grow sites!
The whole terps leave the plant through "wounds" thing!

My bad. Like I said, sorry. Lack of sleep.

 

[Chorse]

Pests like fungus gnats that love the wet, you mean? That aside, if it's humid, you'll get bud rot from condensed low evaporation around the colas.

Edit: Nevermind, you acknowledged the humidity part. If you can plug in a dehumidifier, why are you unable to boil?

Gnats may like wet but cannot like being submerged. This isn't a dipping but a drowning until chop. My grow is not in my house but in a shed on the "back forty".

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Gnats may like wet but cannot like being submerged. This isn't a dipping but a drowning until chop. My grow is not in my house but in a shed on the "back forty".

I suppose. How far do you have to tote? A wheelbarrow, dolly, or just careful footwork might be enough. I'd just like to see what you think after trying it is all.

 

[Bud Assasin]

@Indacouch Are you hacking her to pieces before drying? If so, there is a huuuuuuuuge difference in your final product.


Trimming weight isn't very difficult when you have a hard time deciding what to trim and what to leave and, when there is little of that to contemplate. My easiest trim is the "Mystery". It is so dense in frost that even though it does have a few short leaves that should go, they fold up nicely (dry), and are so purple that it all comes together to just add "character" to the buds. Trimming it's beautiful sugars, in a way, detracts from her. That is per plant, she doesn't yield, so per lb goes to either my "Mint", or "M4" (yes, even easier/icier than GG4).

Honestly, it's all pretty quick, just have to get your leaf to calayx ratio squared away.

Leaf to bud ratio comes down first to genetics and then Environmental factors.

@Indacouch I am with you on the grow, dry, cure, making the best product.

 

[Bugeye]

Trim it dry if you are in low humidity and trim it wet if your rh is higher. Keeping material on longer will slow your dry time which is important in low rh areas.

 

[CannaBruh]

Does the plant die at the time of "cutting or harvest"? If it is still alive, one has to ASSume underlying processes are still going on even if limited, and that may translate to moisture from the leaves used as reserves to the flowers (a guess) or any number of plant phenom happening.

I find without the fans or a rough wet trim, allows the flowers to dry faster, which begs to ask what I'm missing in those processes by removing the fans. If one cannot discern wet trim vs dry trim in a quasi-controlled side by side then it may be too far into the details to matter, but I would still do a full plant dry with fans on, and then when snappy dry to a full on trim or trim in sections or whatever.

When money is a motivator, and thus a shorter takt time and more throughput = more money = cut the fans.
If mold is a potential problem, then I would cut the fans, but enough air movement should help as pointed out by Dr Who.

Boiled vs not-boiled will be a fun experiment.

 

[Chorse]

I suppose. How far do you have to tote? A wheelbarrow, dolly, or just careful footwork might be enough. I'd just like to see what you think after trying it is all.

Kinda happy with my current process but maybe someday. I have caught some of RMs stuff since joining and the pictorial results are awesome.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Kinda happy with my current process but maybe someday. I have caught some of RMs stuff since joining and the pictorial results are awesome.

So you've seen his incredible T5 results?

 

[CannaBruh]

seeing is one thing, but when numerous folks comment with such kinds of praise it starts to warrant attention, imo

his flowers look stellar, lots of people talking of pinners blowing away steady tokers, that grabs my ear

 

[Olive Drab Green]

seeing is one thing, but when numerous folks comment with such kinds of praise it starts to warrant attention, imo

his flowers look stellar, lots of people talking of pinners blowing away steady tokers, that grabs my ear

Dude. People have grown his strains and they are nothing like you've ever had before.

 

[DemonTrich]

I wet trim do to having RA. I can get about 2hrs max I to a dry trim vs 2x16hr wet trim days. I've seen no loss, notorious any patient in potency, flavor, bag appeal, ect with my ect trim method. I also use a trimmer machine, and about to score a t4

 

[Dr. Who]

Does the plant die at the time of "cutting or harvest"? If it is still alive, one has to ASSume underlying processes are still going on even if limited, and that may translate to moisture from the leaves used as reserves to the flowers (a guess) or any number of plant phenom happening.

I find without the fans or a rough wet trim, allows the flowers to dry faster, which begs to ask what I'm missing in those processes by removing the fans. If one cannot discern wet trim vs dry trim in a quasi-controlled side by side then it may be too far into the details to matter, but I would still do a full plant dry with fans on, and then when snappy dry to a full on trim or trim in sections or whatever.

When money is a motivator, and thus a shorter takt time and more throughput = more money = cut the fans.
If mold is a potential problem, then I would cut the fans, but enough air movement should help as pointed out by Dr Who.

Boiled vs not-boiled will be a fun experiment.

THIS, is a very good question!

In the sense that the plant is not in a media and is not taking in nutrition. YES, it is "dead" BUT, is the existing plant and the "matter" it contains, advancing in "growth" or "aging" in any way? YES, it is! Trichomes continue to age for around 3 days +/-.
Some plant nutritional conversion continues for about the same amount of time! So then, even after stopping up-take by what ever means you harvest your plant. Some living process's continue on for a limited time. Everything will "age" to varying degree's.

Trichomes continue to to advance in "age" and keeping that in mind at harvest helps determine the final "maturity" of them (they will continue to amber)... This period does not last long, and I'm sure reduces with the more you trim....THIS could be an avenue for the terpene levels to be somewhat differing in wet vs. dry trimming.

The way I would look at that is still more explainable by the amounts left on the trimmed vs not and the air flow rates around it (trimmed)....

GREAT question CB!

 

[Odin*]

@Dr. Who @CannaBruh It is the processes that occur in the still living plant after "chop" that generate a difference between wet and dry trim. Started out dry trimming, years of altering methods in an effort to hasten trim sessions led away from dry to wet trim. I was down to my last 8 plants, last members of the crew had left, it was 3am, so I just hacked them down (to dry trim later). Those final 8 (representing two separate strains) were visibly superior to the members of that particular strain who were wet trimmed. The difference was so pronounce that I bagged them separately. True story.


Edit: Dry trimming religiously ever since.

 

[Richard Drysift]

What's a proper temp and RH for drying. I usually just go off of what my room gives me :/

It's good to be at room temp or slightly above 70-75 deg F and an RH of 45% or lower. It's better to leave on most of the sugar leaves that both help shape the bud and are heavily trichomed which you can easily mangle when you trim wet. I run a dehumidifier in my grow area all the time because it's in a dingy basement where I've gotten mold issues in the past. Keeping it relatively dry is super important during hanging & curing.

Also when I trim dry I can do it slowly and be throurogh because I take a branch off one at a time and trim over a drysifting screen to catch any trichomes falling off. You can get into the bud deeper without destroying any trichs. Once I'm done trimming I let the trims dry, freeze it for a couple hours(my sifting screens fit right in the freezer) and then bounce the material for about 30 secs to shake off the best kief you ever had....yum happy harvesting, bitches!

Can you explain why you think wet trimmed buds have to be laid on screens so they have a flat side? And dry hung? Seems like you could do either regardless of whether you wet or dry trim.

Sure you can do it any way you like..it really is a matter of preference. I used to trim wet but found that you get a far superior end product if you wait to do the delicate trim work after the buds are dry. Now I only pull off the fans and whatever has a visible stem showing and leave the rest until totally dry. I prefer to leave as much as possible on the plant stem leaving it as intact as possible & hang dry instead of laying it all on screens because it takes longer to dry that way. It should take 7 days or longer to get it dry enough to jar up. It can be a pain in the ass too but leaving it as whole as possible makes curing easier IMO. Laying buds on a screen makes them dry too fast but that's fine if you plan to run it as hash it whatever but premium cola bud you plan to smoke is best slow dried...If it's very dry like desert conditions the stems will get brittle faster so leaving it whole kinda slows it down.

 

[reefer.m4dness]

Allowing leaves to dry on the buds is a lazy disgusting practice, trim the buds wet remove all the leaves and hang up to dry.

 

[757growin]

Most of the larger outdoor growers dry trim. I do myself and my product usually ends up on shops top shelf. That works for me. Plus who can wet trim 5/10 pounds in a day?

 

[DemonTrich]

With a t4 one can. I'm on the lower tier of most, I do about 3/9weeks. Found a used t4 for 3500. Trying to pull the trigger on it

 

[PURPLEB3RRYKUSH]

Can you explain why you think wet trimmed buds have to be laid on screens so they have a flat side? And dry hung? Seems like you could do either regardless of whether you wet or dry trim.

haha he must be high on sum good stuff, i wet trim and dry on screens

 

[DemonTrich]

If you rotate your buds 2x daily, no flat spots.

 

[doublejj]

I highly recommend a trimpal dry trimmer. hang the bud to dry & then run them thru the machine.