New vert grow, could use some input please
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gr865
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Day 31 12/12
Pic's taken this morning, did some tucking, minor fan removal and chopped the top off of BC1. Also some rez work, added a gallon on new mix, before 662 ppm and 5.96 pH, after 657 and 5.79 pH.
Going to change bottom rez from a 7 gallon to a 13 gallon, want to be able to go out of town for about 4 to 5 days.
As I said I chopped the top off BC1, did not see her recovering at all, maybe the lower half will do better. Checked plants and the pistils are all burned looking very little new pistils activity.
This is thebitch that I just cut the top off, hoping the lower will do better
Later,
GR
Pic's taken this morning, did some tucking, minor fan removal and chopped the top off of BC1. Also some rez work, added a gallon on new mix, before 662 ppm and 5.96 pH, after 657 and 5.79 pH.
Going to change bottom rez from a 7 gallon to a 13 gallon, want to be able to go out of town for about 4 to 5 days.
As I said I chopped the top off BC1, did not see her recovering at all, maybe the lower half will do better. Checked plants and the pistils are all burned looking very little new pistils activity.
This is thebitch that I just cut the top off, hoping the lower will do better
Later,
GR
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gr865
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New lower rez, 13.2 gallons, upper rez, 10 gallons, total nutrient solution used between the two rez's is 20 gallons
Using RO water and Canna coco nutes, I added Cal/mag low rate. Per gallon:
2 ppm - starting ppm of RO water
5.05 - Starting pH of RO water
3.5 ml Cal/Mag
6.5 ml Canna coco A
7.0 ml Canna coco B
7.5 ml Liquid KoolBloom, this one week only.
8 ml Cannazym
1.5 ml SM90
0.4 ml Drip Clean
Total rez - 20 gallon, includes low and upper rez.
PPM - 684
pH - 5.9 adjusted to 5.82
Finely got a response from Canna after I had made my solution. They said to add enough tap water to the RO to get 120 ppm, then build on that. With my next mix on Wed I will begin using that number and method for my future mixes. One question I have is if I start with that number (120 ppm) do a adjust my overall mix to include the starting number or use it in my final calculation. ex. if my target number in 650 would my nute solution be 650 + 120 = 870 nutes and starting water or 650 - 120 = 530 ppm of nutes. Thinking it would be the latter.
GR
I want to get this dialed in before my next grow, going to finish this one even though I am not expecting much of anything from it.
Using RO water and Canna coco nutes, I added Cal/mag low rate. Per gallon:
2 ppm - starting ppm of RO water
5.05 - Starting pH of RO water
3.5 ml Cal/Mag
6.5 ml Canna coco A
7.0 ml Canna coco B
7.5 ml Liquid KoolBloom, this one week only.
8 ml Cannazym
1.5 ml SM90
0.4 ml Drip Clean
Total rez - 20 gallon, includes low and upper rez.
PPM - 684
pH - 5.9 adjusted to 5.82
Finely got a response from Canna after I had made my solution. They said to add enough tap water to the RO to get 120 ppm, then build on that. With my next mix on Wed I will begin using that number and method for my future mixes. One question I have is if I start with that number (120 ppm) do a adjust my overall mix to include the starting number or use it in my final calculation. ex. if my target number in 650 would my nute solution be 650 + 120 = 870 nutes and starting water or 650 - 120 = 530 ppm of nutes. Thinking it would be the latter.
GR
I want to get this dialed in before my next grow, going to finish this one even though I am not expecting much of anything from it.
gr865
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Day 44 of 12/12
Ok, got everything cleaned up, fan leaves tucked, and plucked a few dead or dying ones.
Well, found out how deep the water gets in my tent and it's not as bad as expected. Had only one over flow the trays they sit in.
Over all appearance is not that good, buds are thickening but they missed a lot of growth during the couple of weeks that we had the problems with "The Claw"!
Going to get something out of this harvest, just not sure what. Breeder's says 50 to 60 days on the Critical Kush and 8 to 10 weeks on the Blue Cheese, but I may add a week or so to each strain, and that will depend on the trichs, going for mostly cloudy, very few amber.
Here are a few pics,
GR
Ok, got everything cleaned up, fan leaves tucked, and plucked a few dead or dying ones.
Well, found out how deep the water gets in my tent and it's not as bad as expected. Had only one over flow the trays they sit in.
Over all appearance is not that good, buds are thickening but they missed a lot of growth during the couple of weeks that we had the problems with "The Claw"!
Going to get something out of this harvest, just not sure what. Breeder's says 50 to 60 days on the Critical Kush and 8 to 10 weeks on the Blue Cheese, but I may add a week or so to each strain, and that will depend on the trichs, going for mostly cloudy, very few amber.
Here are a few pics,
GR
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gr865
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Day 48 12 / 12
Things are going along and the bugs are getting fatter, which is a good thing.
Good one bud get too close to the light got some burn. I will not be removing the plants from the tent until I return from my next trip. Leaving on Thursday and returning next Wednesday. The Blumats are workng good at present so don't want to mess with them. Got about 6 sec between drips at the end of the light cycle and about 10 sec between drips at the start of the light cycle.
I have been maintaining the reservoir around 875 PPM & pH of 5. 87, pH has been creeping up or down not major. I have been using the Canna nute regime, with the only addition being koolbloom dry at 1 gram per gallon, started last Thursday and will run for the next 10 days or so.
Overall appearance of the plant still sucks but they are building buds so that is a good thing. Going to remove the dead/damaged leaves and some fans that are blocking light.
GR
Question, RH is around 67 to 73% is that OK?
Things are going along and the bugs are getting fatter, which is a good thing.
Good one bud get too close to the light got some burn. I will not be removing the plants from the tent until I return from my next trip. Leaving on Thursday and returning next Wednesday. The Blumats are workng good at present so don't want to mess with them. Got about 6 sec between drips at the end of the light cycle and about 10 sec between drips at the start of the light cycle.
I have been maintaining the reservoir around 875 PPM & pH of 5. 87, pH has been creeping up or down not major. I have been using the Canna nute regime, with the only addition being koolbloom dry at 1 gram per gallon, started last Thursday and will run for the next 10 days or so.
Overall appearance of the plant still sucks but they are building buds so that is a good thing. Going to remove the dead/damaged leaves and some fans that are blocking light.
GR
Question, RH is around 67 to 73% is that OK?
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verticalgrow
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gr865
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Day 57 12/12
Looks like 7 to 14 days, strain dependent.
Just returned from a 6 day trip and the plants did well, no run aways, no buds in the lamp, only thing was my lower rez ran out of liquid but the upper rez still had two to three more days in it. I think I found the answer to my drifting pH, I removed the air stones from the upper rez and the pH dropped only about 1.5 points, starting pH last Thursday was 6.1 and upon return it was 5.94. Last trip the pH started at 6.2 and went to 5.4 in the 6 days I was gone. No more air stones.
Plants are doing ok considering all the shit I put them through. It looks like I will be harvesting in a week or two. Trichs are mostly clear, only funky on the BC1 that went bonkers on me during the grow, it has clear trichs on the lower part of the plant while the upper looks extremely weird.
Just cruising now till harvest.
GR
Looks like 7 to 14 days, strain dependent.
Just returned from a 6 day trip and the plants did well, no run aways, no buds in the lamp, only thing was my lower rez ran out of liquid but the upper rez still had two to three more days in it. I think I found the answer to my drifting pH, I removed the air stones from the upper rez and the pH dropped only about 1.5 points, starting pH last Thursday was 6.1 and upon return it was 5.94. Last trip the pH started at 6.2 and went to 5.4 in the 6 days I was gone. No more air stones.
Plants are doing ok considering all the shit I put them through. It looks like I will be harvesting in a week or two. Trichs are mostly clear, only funky on the BC1 that went bonkers on me during the grow, it has clear trichs on the lower part of the plant while the upper looks extremely weird.
Just cruising now till harvest.
GR
gr865
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"only funky on the BC1 that went bonkers on me during the grow, it has clear trichs on the lower part of the plant while the upper looks extremely weird."
If you pull up a close up of this shot, you will see it is only stacked foxtails, I think it is real cool, but don't want to go thru the shit I been thru that past few weeks, LOL.
GR
If you pull up a close up of this shot, you will see it is only stacked foxtails, I think it is real cool, but don't want to go thru the shit I been thru that past few weeks, LOL.
GR
gr865
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Day 63 12/12
Harvested Blue Cheese 1, the mutant!
I cut the upper third of the plant a couple of weeks ago and it went into the compost pile.
What a plant, the upper 2/3rds that was effected by whatever the fuck happened, and the lower third was effected but not all that much compared to the upper.
The middle of the plant was damn easy to trim, the lower a little more work involved.
BC#1
Full 2/3 rds of the plant, don't it make your heart hurt a bit seeing the poor baby.
The middle third of the plant, the mutant as it has been termed.
The lower third of the plant, this portion of the plant was not as effected and the upper portion, and this part of the plant was established when the top of the plant began it's problem. It is like the new growth was effected at the third week of 12/12 and the lower portion (older growth) was hardly effected.
The Root ball, I do not think that the roots were the problem I was only able to wash off about a cup of coco from this root mass.
After trim wet weight, 300 g's. Not sure what the will equate to in dry weight, I have read you get about 20 t0 30% dry weight to wet weight. Don't really make no difference, it is what it is. Just hope as a mutant plant it gives me mutant high like good ol' Sgt. Stedanko, I want a little lizard in me,
GR
Harvested Blue Cheese 1, the mutant!
I cut the upper third of the plant a couple of weeks ago and it went into the compost pile.
What a plant, the upper 2/3rds that was effected by whatever the fuck happened, and the lower third was effected but not all that much compared to the upper.
The middle of the plant was damn easy to trim, the lower a little more work involved.
BC#1
Full 2/3 rds of the plant, don't it make your heart hurt a bit seeing the poor baby.
The middle third of the plant, the mutant as it has been termed.
The lower third of the plant, this portion of the plant was not as effected and the upper portion, and this part of the plant was established when the top of the plant began it's problem. It is like the new growth was effected at the third week of 12/12 and the lower portion (older growth) was hardly effected.
The Root ball, I do not think that the roots were the problem I was only able to wash off about a cup of coco from this root mass.
After trim wet weight, 300 g's. Not sure what the will equate to in dry weight, I have read you get about 20 t0 30% dry weight to wet weight. Don't really make no difference, it is what it is. Just hope as a mutant plant it gives me mutant high like good ol' Sgt. Stedanko, I want a little lizard in me,
GR
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Day 70 of 12/12 Harvest day!
I harvested BC1 last week, my mutant plant, it went into a jar today, 30 g's, and I don't think it's going to be that good either.
So today I harvested the other four ladies, BC2 & 3 and CK1 & 2. Did more trimming than I normally do for the 1st hang, also hung them as full plant instead of stems or nuggets. First time doing that also.
BC2 before and after
Wanted to show the back of the screen on BC2 
BC3 before and after
Took a break and smoked a bowl of Headband, forgot to take a before pic of CK1 so here is after
CK2 before and after
Group shot in the tent to dry!
GR
I harvested BC1 last week, my mutant plant, it went into a jar today, 30 g's, and I don't think it's going to be that good either.
So today I harvested the other four ladies, BC2 & 3 and CK1 & 2. Did more trimming than I normally do for the 1st hang, also hung them as full plant instead of stems or nuggets. First time doing that also.
BC2 before and after
Wanted to show the back of the screen on BC2 BC3 before and after
Took a break and smoked a bowl of Headband, forgot to take a before pic of CK1 so here is after
CK2 before and after
Group shot in the tent to dry!
GR
gr865
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Ok smoke report of BC1, to the compost pile it goes, maybe into the oil making stash. It was, best way to describe it, YUKKKKY!Day 63 12/12
After trim wet weight, 300 g's. Not sure what the will equate to in dry weight, I have read you get about 20 t0 30% dry weight to wet weight. Don't really make no difference, it is what it is. Just hope as a mutant plant it gives me mutant high like good ol' Sgt. Stedanko, I want a little lizard in me,
GR
GR
Does anyone know who Sgt. Stedanko was?
ttystikk
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verticalgrow
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sgt Stedanko was Dank.
He was the only bloke who could tell the difference between high grade &
low grade washing powder.
verticalgrow
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gr865
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I am going to go with the 400W HPS again, this is only a 4x4, so should be ok. Before I go 600W I may try to stack 400's.g'day GR,
are u gunna use a 600W HPS?
VG
I am try to make the decision on vegging, weither to veg horz. or vert.. I know this grow I will be cutting most back growth off. Still going to tuck leaves as I think that worked great. Also, the lolly popping, not sure how to handle that.
GR
ttystikk
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Wasn't even worth making butter out of it, huh? That's bad...