California adds 30,000 new jobs last month

choomer

choomer

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Fogdog said:
Not only 30,000 jobs but the most high paying jobs in the US too.
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This part I didn't see in your quoted text and it's why I call it into question.
When I went to the article the part that captured my attention was:
"While jobs overall grew at a rate of 2.3% over the last 12 months, professional services, which include lawyers, consultants and advertisers, added jobs at a rate of 4.6%. Hospitality, including restaurants and hotels, grew at a rate of 3.6%.
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The Employment Development Department, which produces the jobs data, revised August’s gain down to 48,400 from an initial report of 61,300 new jobs.
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Leisure and hospitality businesses were especially hungry for new hires last month, adding 13,600 people to state payrolls.

Manufacturing employers, which have been a drag on the state’s economy all year, cut 8,000 jobs over the month. Manufacturers have been shedding jobs across the country this year, even as productivity in the sector reaches record highs.

California is losing jobs faster than the country overall, though, and that’s partly because the state is not a great place to make things with low wage labor, says UC Berkeley economist Enrico Moretti."

I'd like to know the justification for the 21% devaluation of Aug. gain data and also the data that allows him to say in the article, "California is losing jobs faster than the country overall, though" since the difference between them is what I'd use to plot real job growth data. If you lose more old jobs than new jobs created it's still a loss.

"<snip> investment in education is the best way to grow an economy long term.[/QUOTE]
This I wholeheartedly agree with.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Dude, you are spinning this too hard and you are going to break a spring. You can regurgitate all the crazy academic "floats all boats" or "supply side" economic theory you like. Leadership of this country has been steering the economy using that ideology for more than 60 years and what we've seen as a result is concentration of wealth in fewer people to the detriment of 90% of the people in this country. It is also hurting the infrastructure and health systems of this country.

You talk about decaying towns and infrastructure and neglect the fact that the trends you cry about are almost directly caused by the concentration of wealth into the hands of a few at the expense of those cities, children and infrastructure.

Supply side economics is a theory. When enough evidence is gathered to disprove a theory, it must be discarded. One need only look at California or Scandinavian countries to see economic actions that work better than the crap you propound.

Your ideas of benefits from low taxation in today's economy are like advocating for depriving food from a starving man in order to cure him. Because he obviously hasn't fasted long enough to get the health benefits expected from fasting. California has boldly put it's tax structures in place to re-invest a larger portion of corporate and wealthy people's profits back into education, infrastructure and health systems. The result is a world beating economic story that is the envy of low tax states.
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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GranolaCornhola said:
"You talk about decaying towns and infrastructure and neglect the fact that the trends you cry about are almost directly caused by the concentration of wealth into the hands of a few at the expense of those cities, children and infrastructure."

Actually, just the opposite, there now is no wealth. There was a time "puppet master duration" when wealth was spread throughout the communities. Now "post puppet master" there is none. This is fact. I be sure to relay your message to all the inhabitants in the D though. I'll tell them that those evil puppet masters that pay your pension, that helped put your kids in good schools and paid for their college education, provided you with a livable income, well they were all bad. They were your puppet masters, you just were too fucking ignorant to know it.

See, economic theory contradicts, your real world experience. Now that the corporations have left, things are better for you. You have crumbling streets now, when you didn't before, you have substandard schools, when before they were not, you have zero opportunities now when before you did. This whole downfall is merely an illusion, and you are better off without the puppet masters and the jobs, money, education, and opportunities they provided to you.

Now, go fix your own potholes in the streets, shovel the streets in the winter because the city can't afford to do so, leave your lights on because the city cant afford to pay for the electricity for street lights, buy a firearm because the police can't protect you or your neighborhood. Yep, things are better now.
Now go put on your Mcdonalds uniform and flip those fucking burgers making minimum, with no benefits. Thank god the corporations left. Trust me, I read on the internet you are now free from your masters. LOL
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Colorado Springs, a very right wing city, tried it. Their residents were asked to water trees and now grass in public parks.

As you can imagine, that didn't go over well.

Yet here you are, still screaming about how everyone should continue backing an economic theory THAT'S ACTUALLY, DEMONSTRABLY HURTING YOU AND YOUR BEST INTEREST.

You're a mind slave to the oligarchs and their bullshit. The difference is that they're profiting from it, and you aren't.
 
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Catfish1966

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Fogdog said:
come on man, nothing you say is funny. You have the imagination of a termite.

My post was intended to gently remind a retarded person that CA added 30,000 new jobs in September. I'm so proud of how far you've come in the past 55 years that you can actually remember things like that. Good on you. :clap:
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So in two post I responded to that exact claim, yet you still feel the need to " remind" me of what I responded to. Short term memory loss?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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choomer said:
This part I didn't see in your quoted text and it's why I call it into question.
When I went to the article the part that captured my attention was:
"While jobs overall grew at a rate of 2.3% over the last 12 months, professional services, which include lawyers, consultants and advertisers, added jobs at a rate of 4.6%. Hospitality, including restaurants and hotels, grew at a rate of 3.6%.
<snip>
The Employment Development Department, which produces the jobs data, revised August’s gain down to 48,400 from an initial report of 61,300 new jobs.
<snip>
Leisure and hospitality businesses were especially hungry for new hires last month, adding 13,600 people to state payrolls.

Manufacturing employers, which have been a drag on the state’s economy all year, cut 8,000 jobs over the month. Manufacturers have been shedding jobs across the country this year, even as productivity in the sector reaches record highs.

California is losing jobs faster than the country overall, though, and that’s partly because the state is not a great place to make things with low wage labor, says UC Berkeley economist Enrico Moretti."

I'd like to know the justification for the 21% devaluation of Aug. gain data and also the data that allows him to say in the article, "California is losing jobs faster than the country overall, though" since the difference between them is what I'd use to plot real job growth data. If you lose more old jobs than new jobs created it's still a loss.

"<snip> investment in education is the best way to grow an economy long term.
This I wholeheartedly agree with.
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So, show the link that says California is losing jobs faster than the country is overall. 20% of the entire nations jobs growth took place in California. I'm guessing you are referring to some shitty tortured statistic that was bent over backwards and fucked by a right wing blogger to cast shade over the improvement in the economic situation in California. Right wingers like @choomer suck dick of wealthy who would rather have a nation of servants. Fuck that.

Highest wages of states in the US. States, not district of Columbia. California ranks highest wages in the nation.
Average income by state
1. District of Columbia $68,919
2.California $62,448
3.New York $61,833
4.Alaska $61,666
5.Massachusetts $60,815
6.New Jersey $60,792
7.Connecticut $59,419
8.Washington $58,567
9.Maryland $58,281
10.Colorado $56,365
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
So, show the link that says California is losing jobs faster than the country is overall. 20% of the entire nations jobs growth took place in California. I'm guessing you are referring to some shitty tortured statistic that was bent over backwards and fucked by a right wing blogger to cast shade over the improvement in the economic situation in California. Right wingers like @choomer suck dick of wealthy who would rather have a nation of servants. Fuck that.

Highest wages of states in the US. States, not district of Columbia. California ranks highest wages in the nation.
Average income by state
1. District of Columbia $68,919
2.California $62,448
3.New York $61,833
4.Alaska $61,666
5.Massachusetts $60,815
6.New Jersey $60,792
7.Connecticut $59,419
8.Washington $58,567
9.Maryland $58,281
10.Colorado $56,365
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Good to see Colorado in the top ten. Funny how Texas isn't on it. Nevermind ANY southern republican run state. Jersey's numbers ride the coattails of NYC, a perennially liberal engine of economic growth.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Catfish1966 said:
So in two post I responded to that exact claim, yet you still feel the need to " remind" me of what I responded to. Short term memory loss?
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derp

Do you have anything to say or just want to play semantics. Not interested in playing a remedial word game. The main point in this thread concerns the right wing theory the economy is harmed by high taxation which kills jobs growth. Results in California say otherwise. Reply to that. But I don't think you can carry on a coherent discussion.
 
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Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Good to see Colorado in the top ten. Funny how Texas isn't on it. Nevermind ANY southern republican run state. Jersey's numbers ride the coattails of NYC, a perennially liberal engine of economic growth.
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Other than Alaska, which is run by oil money, none of the low tax states showed up, did they?

Colorado is drawing larger numbers of well educated, highly creative people. These are the ones who generate or work in high paying jobs.

Texas is 17th. Pretty much middle of the pack. Probably because of oil industry which is enjoying a boom due to fracking.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Other than Alaska, which is run by oil money, none of the low tax states showed up, did they?

Colorado is drawing larger numbers of well educated, highly creative people. These are the ones who generate or work in high paying jobs.

Texas is 17th. Pretty much middle of the pack. Probably because of oil industry which is enjoying a boom due to fracking.
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Weed is the fastest growing industry in the state and it's definitely helping Colorado's overall economic picture.
 
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Catfish1966

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Fogdog said:
derp

Do you have anything to say or just want to play semantics. Not interested in playing a remedial word game. The main point in this thread concerns the right wing theory the economy is harmed by high taxation which kills jobs growth. Results in California say otherwise. Reply to that. But I don't think you can carry on a coherent discussion.
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so you keep repeating the same statement that is different than what you are now claiming it to be, and I'm the one who is incoherent?
 
choomer

choomer

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Fogdog said:
So, show the link that says California is losing jobs faster than the country is overall. 20% of the entire nations jobs growth took place in California. I'm guessing you are referring to some shitty tortured statistic that was bent over backwards and fucked by a right wing blogger to cast shade over the improvement in the economic situation in California. Right wingers like @choomer suck dick of wealthy who would rather have a nation of servants. Fuck that.
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It's IN THE ARTICLE YOU LINK in your original post.

You posted it, I assumed you read ALL of it. I was mistaken.
 
choomer

choomer

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UncleBuck said:
really? that's your objection? that people don't get paid poorly enough?
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So you and the fogger went to the same school?
Did you happen to notice quotes around what encompassed that statement?

Nah.....NM.
It's so convenient for you to have the 50 word limit and I'm sure that content I quoted (after a large advertisement, so I can see how a liberal could miss it) was well past that mark.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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choomer said:
It's IN THE ARTICLE YOU LINK in your original post.

You posted it, I assumed you read ALL of it. I was mistaken.
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Context, Choomer. California is such a huge jobs market that of course it's jobs losses are also huge. These losses are more than offset by total jobs created. The difference is 30,000 net new jobs created in September. I am surprised that I had to explain this to you.

What you didn't find was a net jobs loss, something the Bush administration excelled at. Obama and Jerry Brown were put in charge to remedy the problems created by Republican administrations.
 
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757growin

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ttystikk said:
Good to see Colorado in the top ten. Funny how Texas isn't on it. Nevermind ANY southern republican run state. Jersey's numbers ride the coattails of NYC, a perennially liberal engine of economic growth.
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More like Connecticut is riding new Yorks coat tails. Jersey is home to the pharmaceutical industry, Princeton University, new Jersey giants and pork roll aka Taylor ham(it's like bacon on steroids).
 
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