Flaming Pie
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I guess they think reading about hitler or his works makes you a nazi. So they stay uninformed and stupid.
Hillary can't be trusted
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Fogdog
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You can say you are a grasshopper and it wouldn't be true. Yes, Hitler did say he was a socialist. It's a distortion that gets in the way of facts. We have several socialist institutions in this country that are the backbone of our country's security and a safety net for those that need it. Doesn't make this a NAZI country and more than it makes this a Communist one.
I'm guessing you are libertarian and would do away with them. And so, of course you wish to distort facts. Pie on the other hand doesn't have a clue and just says whatever is on top of her anti-choice mind.
twostrokenut
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Fogdog
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Fact-free life is easy, I guess.
twostrokenut
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Let me guess, you maintain the means of production in Nazi Germany was in private hands, amirite?
Did I say we are NAZI or Commie in the USA? I did not.
twostrokenut
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Other than price and wage controls, what are the others in your opinion?
twostrokenut
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You assume too much. I don't think taxing the shit out of a company that proposes to leave the country embraces free market principles at all. It's very anti-capitalist imo its like fixing your crooked window resting on a cracked foundation.
Flaming Pie
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I don't even read your posts anymore. You are woefully uninformed. Maybe if you actually read valid sources once in a while instead of asking the liberals to tell you what is fact.
Factcheck is a propaganda tool for the liberals. You need to go to their sources and employ some critical thinking skills.
Our government is fucked up. So entrenched in corruption. Hillary is the definition of corruption. If you read wikileaks you would realize it. Which is why CNN said it was "illegal" to read them.
Media is currently freaking out over the use of the word "ghetto". Have you been to detroit or chicago? I have.
Streets of abandoned homes with graffiti and boarded up windows to keep squatters and drugs users out. Broken street lights. Crumbling brick factories left to decay. Streets that have potholes so big you can pop a tire. Closed schools. The schools still open are unsafe and not providing adequate education. Homeless people all over the place. Shops have bars on their windows, doors, and are in disrepair.
MLK used the word ghettos often.
The left has had control of these black communities in cities around our country and yet the black population still suffers. The democrats promise change, hope, and prosperity, yet the black communities are ignored.
They should be providing adequate security, schools, and jobs to african americans. Instead they want to flood our nation with outside labor which hurts blacks more than whites.
Trump has a plan to entice businesses into these areas. Business equals jobs! Renegotiating trade deals will make american manufacturing able to compete and then they will need more workers for the increased demand of goods.
Bill clinton said he wanted to pay syrian refugees to repair detroit. Why not pay the people of detroit or michigan to repair detroit?
Wake up!
tangerinegreen555
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No brain activity, go ahead and pull the plug on the ventilator. Put a fork in him. Done.
Fogdog
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I didn't say you did. But it comes up when the word socialist or ism is used so I figured I'd just say it to head that stupid idea off.
Much of the means of production in Germany was in the hands of Germany's industrialists. Hitler tolerated socialist ideas in his party until 1934. After that, to be socialist was a death sentence.
Other than the fact that Hitler had socialists rounded up and murdered, the biggest difference between socialism and Nazi ideology is that socialism is based upon the working class and rewards according to deeds while Hitler's ideas were based upon race and expansion of the German "race" at the expense of all others.
Rrog
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I hate both candidates, but Jesus trump is taking everyone for a goddam ride.
I'll give anyone $50 who can prove he's not an easily tested psychopath. All of the boxes on his lab test are checked. He is far and away the worse of the two. He's a serial rapist for fucks sake
I'll give anyone $50 who can prove he's not an easily tested psychopath. All of the boxes on his lab test are checked. He is far and away the worse of the two. He's a serial rapist for fucks sake
UncleBuck
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National Socialist. Funny how someone who befriends neo Nazis omits that detail.
twostrokenut
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Von Misis busted this myth a long time ago.
Private ownership of the means of production existed in name only as evidenced by the government that exercised the actual power of ownership; Nazi government decided what was produced, what quantity, what methods and to whom production was to be distributed; what prices to charge, what the wages were paid, what dividends or income the "private owners" were to receive. Misis proved without a doubt that the alleged "private owners" were merely government pensioners.
UncleBuck
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You should come try your luck in my 'trump or hitler' thread.
Fogdog
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I'm very happy to learn that I aggravated you with information.
Just picking on one of your stupid little cut and paste lines in your diatribe: What is Trump's "Plan" to entice businesses into cities? I'm not talking about statements in his speeches but what are his plans? In his speech in North Carolina a couple of days ago, he spoke about how his plan to cut immigration, cut taxes, build "infrastructure" whatever that is, unilaterally end trade agreements, and step up policing. Also charter schools, as if that's what an inner city mom needs when she would have to drive the kid there.
Trump's policy for inner cities is weak, lacks credibility and there are no details showing how his actions will accomplish what he says they will. For one thing, unilaterally cancelling trade agreements will trigger a recession. Also, do the people in the inner city need or want more SWAT and other militarized police on the streets? Cut immigration helps inner city people? Is it his idea that people living in inner cities should replace migrant farm workers?
Also, people can hear the ignorance and unchecked racism in his words. At least most do and most reject him in part for this.
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Fogdog
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OK, you can quote one person The industrialists were joined at the hip to the Nazi war effort, that is true. Tell me, who owned those factories after the war? Don't most still lie in the hands of those same families?
The same could be said of Ford and GM during the war years. Your argument is invalid.
Flaming Pie
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Quotes:
In metro Detroit, 49% of African Americans who are poor are living in census tracts where at least 40% of the residents are poor, the highest rate among the Top 25 metro areas in the U.S. and seventh among the Top 100 metro areas.
In five-year American Community Survey data from 2009-2013, more than a third of all poor African Americans in metropolitan Chicago live in high-poverty census tracts (where the poverty rate is above 40 percent).
In metro Detroit, 49% of African Americans who are poor are living in census tracts where at least 40% of the residents are poor, the highest rate among the Top 25 metro areas in the U.S. and seventh among the Top 100 metro areas.
In five-year American Community Survey data from 2009-2013, more than a third of all poor African Americans in metropolitan Chicago live in high-poverty census tracts (where the poverty rate is above 40 percent).
UncleBuck
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facts have been widely discredited.
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