Please help - fox tailing

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MA MED Grower

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hi. I'm getting fox tails on my plants. I've reseavhed this and it appears heat is the issue. I'm also gettingj a few seeds too. A little bout my room

9k lights
20x12 room
About 2 feet of space from the top of my plants to the bottom of the lights.

If I turn my ballast to 75% would that help with the issues? If not is there something else I can do?

Thank you!
 
HydoDan

HydoDan

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MA MED Grower said:
I cut at 9 weeks of flower. I can deal with the fox tail to a point but seeds??? 5 Different strains in my room. They all get seeds. Not many but enough.
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Saw a pic yesterday of a 10 week bud with random seeds pushing thru.. sexually deprived females act weird..
 
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HydoDan said:
Saw a pic yesterday of a 10 week bud with random seeds pushing thru.. sexually deprived females act weird..
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I can understand one or two plants but every plant? If it's not heat is it possible to much light?? I have 3 rows of 3 hoods. Spaced about a foot to a foot 1/2 between each hood. I'm not using glass on the hoods as its a sealed room and my ac's can handle the heat
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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MA MED Grower said:
I cut at 9 weeks of flower. I can deal with the fox tail to a point but seeds??? 5 Different strains in my room. They all get seeds. Not many but enough.
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Gotta be some 'nanners in there somewhere if you got seeds. If the seeds are already mature then about 5 weeks or more ago some male flowers popped out somewhere and the fans blew their pollen around so those seeds will most likely grow hermie plants if sprouted.

Your room temps are fine but radiant heat makes the tops of the buds a lot hotter and some strains are more prone to foxtail than others. Snip them off and hopefully the buds will get fatter tho I've had foxtails pop up all over the top buds.

Can you raise the lights a little higher to reduce radiant heat? Might be better than dimming the ballasts and putting a lot more wear and tear on the bulbs.

:peace:
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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I agree with the above comment. Maybe raise your lights as the overlap intensity is very high when you have that many lights.

I get more stamen and a few hidden seeds in the middle of summer when I am pushing my room a bit hotter.

Also too much nutes causes salt stress to the roots. Just another cause of the seedy buds on my experience. Or too little when there is some yellowing and tip burn I have seen it. Same plants healthy. No bananas.
 
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MA MED Grower

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OldMedUser said:
Gotta be some 'nanners in there somewhere if you got seeds. If the seeds are already mature then about 5 weeks or more ago some male flowers popped out somewhere and the fans blew their pollen around so those seeds will most likely grow hermie plants if sprouted.

Your room temps are fine but radiant heat makes the tops of the buds a lot hotter and some strains are more prone to foxtail than others. Snip them off and hopefully the buds will get fatter tho I've had foxtails pop up all over the top buds.

Can you raise the lights a little higher to reduce radiant heat? Might be better than dimming the ballasts and putting a lot more wear and tear on the bulbs.

:peace:
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Thank you! I'm unable to raise the lights they are pinned at the ceiling. I think you're right the radiant heat is the issue. I've also noticed some leaf curl as well. Isn't that directly related to heat?
 
OldMedUser

OldMedUser

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No pollen, no seeds. Simple as that.

Yes to the leaf curl/heat question. The jagged edges start pointing up as a way to try to dissipate heat. Happens with nute burn to on older leaves first. The salts get drawn to the edges of the leaves and all the tips start browning. Progresses until the leaves turn all brown, thick and crispy.

:peace:
 
purplehays1

purplehays1

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MA MED Grower said:
hi. I'm getting fox tails on my plants. I've reseavhed this and it appears heat is the issue. I'm also gettingj a few seeds too. A little bout my room

9k lights
20x12 room
About 2 feet of space from the top of my plants to the bottom of the lights.

If I turn my ballast to 75% would that help with the issues? If not is there something else I can do?

Thank you!
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fox tailing isnt always a bad thing, and some strains do it even without heat stress. I had a 50/50 indica/sativa strain do it one time in like week 7-8 of flower with no stress and i just harvested at 9 weeks like i planned and you couldn't even tell on the finished product. If your temps are in line i wouldnt sweat it. check your canopy, should be under 85 and the medium surface under 80.
 
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