3 lbs a light publication

[LandAndHeir]

Hey guys I am posting this out of curiosity as to what my fellow riu members think!

Now im not debunking or calling B's on 3 a light as that would be very ignorant, ive seen monster indoor runs ( not my own lol) but ive seen over 2 per alot....I found this publication and this book and the one idea within it that really got my mind going was his " svhwazze" technique in which he defoliates the entire plant in week one of flower and again in week 3...every single leaf....then he states that since he removed all of the leaves he replicates their function by feeding a specific nutrient regiment that is supposed to replace and mimic he leaves function. Personally I was perplexed....so I came here! What do you wonderful folks think? Come one come all! Let's discuss!
My first statement would be, I selectively defoliate for penetration but goddamn every single leaf??!!

 

[LandAndHeir]

http://hightimes.com/grow/grow-three-pounds-per-light/. Heres the link

 

[RM3]

Several threads bout this already, it's nonsense and bullshit all rolled up into a huge waste of time and money that seeks out newbies that don't know any better

 

[LandAndHeir]

That is my natural first thought aswell.....I get 2 a light when I pamper my ladies not rip out their weaves and grow them to the gutter

 

[LandAndHeir]

Seen alot of your posts RM3 I like your no bullshit style, props man

 

[whitebb2727]

I call bullshit to.

 

[RM3]

Seen alot of your posts RM3 I like your no bullshit style, props man

And you can read my books for just $4.20

 

[LandAndHeir]

Haha haha haha yes sold!

 

[RM3]

Haha haha haha yes sold!

http://growhappyplants.com/

 

[LandAndHeir]

This is my 11 th year doing this and I've never thought ripping leaves off and slanging nutes was all that cool.....and to publish a 500 dollar book without any quantitative evidence....hear say, boo I say to this! Booooooo!

 

[LandAndHeir]

Im in Co also man! Id love to meet ya sometime at an event or somthing man , if infact that's your thing, I understand privacy also. ive met many riu members over the years , first joined in 2008 as cannabiscult666 and since I've made some super awesome friends through his site.

 

[RM3]

Im in Co also man! Id love to meet ya sometime at an event or somthing man , if infact that's your thing, I understand privacy also. ive met many riu members over the years , first joined in 2008 as cannabiscult666 and since I've made some super awesome friends through his site.

Get visitors all the time, had a couple that were on their honeymoon just yesterday

 

[whitey78]

I'm not sure about 3#'s per light but defoliating plants is usually done with sog style grows where your working with single cola plants and lots of them.... I am doing something similar to what I'm talking about but my idea came from a thread on a different forum running hempys in 2l soda bottles where the poster was pulling between 16 and 20 grams per soda bottle, and running 112 of these bottles.. so say on the low side at 16 grams per bottle (dried obviously).... but I just did the math as shown below, correct me if I'm wrong but no bullshit my man was pulling more towards 20 grams per plant after several runs using this method so I can see 3#'s per light a possibility if you wanna play the high plant number game.... also this is done with zero veg clones... plants were defoliated at the 21 day mark as the leaves aren't a necessity because by the time your hacking the leaves off; the plant is already bud setting and removes all shading so light hits the bud top to bottom and requires less space per plant to achieve max light penetration...

(112bottles x 16grams =1792grams 1792/28=64oz's 64/16= 4#'s)

Google 112 plant 2liter bottle hempy grow to see for yourself but id say 3 per light is achievable if your willing to play with high plant counts...

 

[clayawesome]

I routinely get 2.5lb per 1000w DE Phantom running at 100% with 3 plants per light. In my eyes Grams per Watt is not dependent on plant count its all about keeping the bottoms clean of anything that will end up less than rock solid, having really good environmental controls (83 degrees F day, 65-70 night, 40-50% RH day and night, and 1500 PPM CO2 during the day) and using 100% of the footprint of each light. I do some defoliation, mostly on the bottoms, but i would never remove anywhere near all the leaves. also there are plenty of leaves in the pics in that article so i don't think he removes them all either. With that being said I very much look forward to my first 3lb per light rip!

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

i think @loftygoals was saying she was going to try this, wonder if she got around to it and what the results were?

 

[boilingoil]

2 lbs per 1,000 should be easily done with-out any defoliation besides cleaning up the under growth. I'm close to 2 lbs with a 600 in a 4x4.

 

[a mongo frog]

2 lbs per 1,000 should be easily done with-out any defoliation besides cleaning up the under growth. I'm close to 2 lbs with a 600 in a 4x4.

What strain? Tell us about the veg! Those are monster numbers!

 

[cat of curiosity]

last grow we averaged 2+ per light, and well on track to beat that this time. our largest plant looks like it may be a 3 pounder, it has it's own light. too soon to tell, never grown this one before, but it's a fucking beast. the other light shares two plants, looking at 2+ for those, so maybe just shy of six lbs under 2kw.

 

[loftygoals]

i think @loftygoals was saying she was going to try this, wonder if she got around to it and what the results were?

I'm on my third run with it... have done the 20 day defoliation today. I was making a timelapse but the damn camera couldn't handle multiple gigabyte movies and kept crashing after about 5-6 days so I gave up.

In a nutshell it can hurt yields if not done properly but done well the yields and quality are great (1900g from 1200w of COBs on the last run and I'm still figuring it out as I didn't actually buy the book). The timing of the defoliation is strain dependent IMO. You need plants vegged longer before you flip to flower than if you were not defoliating. You also need to be selective about defoliating the smaller fan leaves. I think I have it sussed out but I can't say for sure until this run is done.

Give me 4 weeks and I'll post up some finished pics.

Before and after 20 day defoliation pics attached... (excuse the small plant in the front Right, it wasn't ready but I had a space to fill so it got flowered anyway)

 

[boilingoil]

What strain? Tell us about the veg! Those are monster numbers!

G-13, Blue Dream, Blue Mango and a bunch of personal crosses. 12, 9 liter pots of coir in a 4x4. 25 day veg under MH, 63 days of flower under a 600 HPS. Feeds between 1 to 4 per day depending on size, nutrient strengths between 350-400ppm.
Really that only comes to about 1.4 grams per watt, so it's not like it's an outrages number.