Colorado gov calls marijuana gray market ‘a clear and present danger’

CalyxCrusher

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I put the most relevant part in bold. The reason I even posted this is because we recently had a member of parliament go to Colorado to discuss how and what HC could learn from them.


http://www.thecannabist.co/2016/11/14/gov-john-hickenlooper-marijuana-gray-market/67592/

'I take this very seriously': Gov. John Hickenlooper's remarks came after he asked state lawmakers to set aside $16M in marijuana tax revenues for new initiatives related to controlling the market



By John Frank, The Denver Post

Gov. John Hickenlooper on Monday called the marijuana gray market in Colorado a “clear and present danger” that demands tougher regulations and enforcement.

Reacting to recent busts, Hickenlooper said the state must “move swiftly and aggressively to make sure the illegal activity is stamped out.”

“If we don’t stamp it out right now, it becomes acceptable. And then all the sudden, people are going to start getting hurt,” the Democrat said in an interview. “If you let crime grow, it will breed on its opportunity.”

The concern about Colorado-grown marijuana being sold illegally in other states is increasing after a recent crackdown by local and federal law enforcement that led to indictments from the U.S. attorney’s office.

In March, a DEA Drug Task Force raided five homes in Pueblo West and seized 1,879 marijuana plants, 16 pounds of processed marijuana and nine handguns and shotguns, according to court records. Seven men were indicted in U.S. District court on 13 counts of illegal marijuana production and distribution.

“I take this very seriously,” Hickenlooper said. “This is one of the things we worried about in the very beginning but when we see the evidence, we better respond.”

The governor’s remarks came after he asked state lawmakers to set aside $16 million in marijuana tax revenues for new initiatives related to controlling the gray market as part of his $28.5 billion state budget proposal.

The extra dollars would cover the cost of law enforcement investigations and prosecutions. The administration also is considering legislation to tighten regulations on who can grow marijuana at home and the number of plants allowed.

The illegal trade is operating as part of the gray market, in which marijuana is grown legally but sold illegally. The state’s medicinal marijuana law allows patients and caregivers to grow up to 99 plants in a residential setting, while the state’s recreational marijuana law allows growers to form vast cooperatives cultivating six plants per individual.

Rachel Gillette, the acting interim executive director at Colorado Norml, a marijuana advocacy organization, said growers need to operate within the bounds of the law, and she is worried additional state regulations will go too far.

“The bottom line is you can write a bazillion laws, but if people are willing to break them … it doesn’t necessarily help,” she said. “The part of the reason this gray market even exists is because the federal government refuses to acknowledge the medical efficacy of marijuana, as well as continues to follow archaic law pertaining to a drug war that has clearly failed.”
 

RM3

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Hickinfool was trying his best to get other states to not do it knowing that it would bite into the revenue that CO had gotten. As more states legalize the tourist novelty wears off

The majority of profit was from tourists
 

dandyrandy

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I'm buying seeds now in my state. You are next rm3. Got to get a few of your beans. Save your money and your seeds.
 

GroErr

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When the focus is the almighty $ bad decisions follow and we all know (confirmed in the article) that protecting their revenue is the governments only focus, no different on either side of the border. So we get legal but the persecution and evil weed mentality continues, same thing just different. F*ck them all, just keep growing your meds and keep it stealth, don't register so you can be a target for some yahoo politician or cop still living in the 50's.
 

dandyrandy

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I have had automated Google searches on various terms for cannabis for about 4 years. The last 3 months I have seen more negative stories and in the last week or so even more including one from a Boulder university that says today's weed is much more potent so they need to look at this closer. On a side note on the way to work this am I saw an overhead sign for traffic etc that said xx% increase in drugged driving since 2012. On the highway sign yes. I live in the Bible belt and chose not to give the actual numbers. Yes a red state.
 

GroErr

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Yeah we're seeing a lot of that unfounded rhetoric here too, CAA was recently bitching about setting aside money for "educating" the public in the dangers of driving on MJ (everyone wants their cut!). They don't get that a) Pretty well anyone who would drive high on MJ is already doing it and b) There are much worse issues than sharing the road with drivers high on MJ. I don't encourage anyone to drive intoxicated on anything, but I'd much rather share the road with an MJ smoking driver than someone tuned on Oxy's. Where's the call and stats on all these existing pharma junkies related to driving while intoxicated?

I get the bible belt thing, my sister lives in southern Mississippi and every time I visit it's like stepping back 60 years. Unbelievable what some of them do, think, and say, then hide behind "the lord". F'n whack jobs.
 

dandyrandy

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I started back smoking around 5 years ago now. After a 20 plus year hiatus. At 62 and still having to climb on machines etc to repair them I found it helpful. But driving is not an issue as I'm an old burned out hippie. But people are afraid and are worried. Weediquette the series had an interesting show of a young man who had an issue and used weed. Actually oil. He was driving and acting normally while the shows host would have been hammered. That's the nice thing about weed. But my joints are helped by joints....
 

doingdishes

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i am curious how they'll prove impairment.
yes they can test to detect cannabis but I know that when i smoke, it doesn't last very long. i would love to be tested before and after to see how "impaired" i actually am.
maybe like Johnny Fever taking that sobriety test and as he drinks more, his reflexes get faster...haha
 

VIANARCHRIS

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i am curious how they'll prove impairment.
That's something I wonder about, too. They can prove the presence of THC, or take blood to determine the level present, but that doesn't translate to impairment. 5 nanograms or whatever random number they come up with might cause a newbie to be impaired, but not have any effect on an old chronic like myself. I think the only way to prove cannabis impairment is a , walk a straight line, touch your nose type test.
 

ttystikk

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i am curious how they'll prove impairment.
yes they can test to detect cannabis but I know that when i smoke, it doesn't last very long. i would love to be tested before and after to see how "impaired" i actually am.
maybe like Johnny Fever taking that sobriety test and as he drinks more, his reflexes get faster...haha
Presumptive impairment; if you have over X nanograms per per of blood, you're considered intoxicated.
 

cannadan

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I will admit I have used cannabis and drove before....and to me was not impaired in the slightest....
but only about 6000 times....so very little anecdotal evidence...to prove i'm not impaired....
I was taught to drive by the same guy who used to teach pretty much all the police.. offence driving skills....
would love to do the course again....I also set a record ...for quickest gas to brake. 3/1000th's of a sec....I was so fast back then...
they re-calibrated the machine...just to make sure....lol
Anyways now I never drive after medicating..of course as that would be irresponsible...
but this nano-grams blood thing would screw me over.....I would test over 20 days after last use...lol
so now I make the wife(complete non user.) drive when we go out.... she scares me at times.....
 

VIANARCHRIS

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so now I make the wife(complete non user.) drive when we go out.... she scares me at times.....
Sounds like my situation...only I have extreme anxiety with being a passenger since a near fatal accident almost 30 years ago...with a female driver. I seldom feel impaired, but if you don't know what rules the cops are going to play with, it's hard to comply. I make a habit of medicating while I'm a passenger to calm my nerves...I'm waiting for some cop to take offense to that.
 

Moldy

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I put the most relevant part in bold. The reason I even posted this is because we recently had a member of parliament go to Colorado to discuss how and what HC could learn from them.


http://www.thecannabist.co/2016/11/14/gov-john-hickenlooper-marijuana-gray-market/67592/

'I take this very seriously': Gov. John Hickenlooper's remarks came after he asked state lawmakers to set aside $16M in marijuana tax revenues for new initiatives related to controlling the market



By John Frank, The Denver Post

Gov. John Hickenlooper on Monday called the marijuana gray market in Colorado a “clear and present danger” that demands tougher regulations and enforcement.

Reacting to recent busts, Hickenlooper said the state must “move swiftly and aggressively to make sure the illegal activity is stamped out.”

“If we don’t stamp it out right now, it becomes acceptable. And then all the sudden, people are going to start getting hurt,” the Democrat said in an interview. “If you let crime grow, it will breed on its opportunity.”

The concern about Colorado-grown marijuana being sold illegally in other states is increasing after a recent crackdown by local and federal law enforcement that led to indictments from the U.S. attorney’s office.

In March, a DEA Drug Task Force raided five homes in Pueblo West and seized 1,879 marijuana plants, 16 pounds of processed marijuana and nine handguns and shotguns, according to court records. Seven men were indicted in U.S. District court on 13 counts of illegal marijuana production and distribution.

“I take this very seriously,” Hickenlooper said. “This is one of the things we worried about in the very beginning but when we see the evidence, we better respond.”

The governor’s remarks came after he asked state lawmakers to set aside $16 million in marijuana tax revenues for new initiatives related to controlling the gray market as part of his $28.5 billion state budget proposal.

The extra dollars would cover the cost of law enforcement investigations and prosecutions. The administration also is considering legislation to tighten regulations on who can grow marijuana at home and the number of plants allowed.

The illegal trade is operating as part of the gray market, in which marijuana is grown legally but sold illegally. The state’s medicinal marijuana law allows patients and caregivers to grow up to 99 plants in a residential setting, while the state’s recreational marijuana law allows growers to form vast cooperatives cultivating six plants per individual.

Rachel Gillette, the acting interim executive director at Colorado Norml, a marijuana advocacy organization, said growers need to operate within the bounds of the law, and she is worried additional state regulations will go too far.

“The bottom line is you can write a bazillion laws, but if people are willing to break them … it doesn’t necessarily help,” she said. “The part of the reason this gray market even exists is because the federal government refuses to acknowledge the medical efficacy of marijuana, as well as continues to follow archaic law pertaining to a drug war that has clearly failed.”
Meanwhile, the drunks are still killing themselves (and others) and the fucking people that don't use weed are still looking for a good reason to go back to the 50's. Guns are still killing kids at about 3 a day in this country but they can't get their minds off of weed. JFC!!
 
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