What to use instead of perlite?

april

Pickle Queen
Small pebbles or sand....neither absorb water and both prevent compacting if mixed in properly...I always do this with my outdoor pots since we have hot dry summers out here...roots luv to wrap around pebbles plus it creates a small reservoir in the bottom for extra water to drain or collect. ..the roots can also get an extra drink on those really hot days!
 

Cpappa27

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The perlite comes to the top as it is less dense than dirt. I actually find this unintentional layer of perlite that comes to the top to be beneficial. Small soft bodies insects dont like it cause it cuts them up and scratches them so they cant get under it to lay eggs. I would leave it and add more!
 

Mr.5280

Member
Vermiculite, Hydroton, Sand, Bio-char...But if you use bio-char you have to go easy on it because it will absorb nutes. Perlite is the way to go in my opinion...
 

WeedFreak78

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What about starch based packing peanuts? Would they hold up for 2-3 months? 20cu ft bag of peanuts is $30. Perlite is $25 for 2 cu ft...
 

Chunky Stool

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Vermiculite, Hydroton, Sand, Bio-char...But if you use bio-char you have to go easy on it because it will absorb nutes. Perlite is the way to go in my opinion...
I just bought a bag of bio-char and it wasn't cheap. Good thing I only need 5-10% in my mixes.
Why do you have to choose one? I'm starting a new batch in the next couple of days and the new mix will have bio-char, perlite, and calcined clay. I feel the same way about lighting; HID, LED, CFL, it's all good.
 

Mr.5280

Member
I just bought a bag of bio-char and it wasn't cheap. Good thing I only need 5-10% in my mixes.
Why do you have to choose one? I'm starting a new batch in the next couple of days and the new mix will have bio-char, perlite, and calcined clay. I feel the same way about lighting; HID, LED, CFL, it's all good.
Thats the best part...you dont have to chose just one. You just have to figure out what works best for you and your situation. Every grow is different and every grower is different. Its a beautiful thing.
 

mockasin

Member
Uhhh nooo, if you can't afford perlite I'd just save up. It's 4 dollars a bag at Home Depot. You don't need name brand for perlite.
Styrofoam is supposed to be safe to grow vegetables in, so I imagine they'd be safe to grow weed in... however since OP's problem is that it accumulates at the top, this wouldn't be a very good solution. Also if you're using lights that get hot I would be even more wary of using styrofoam.

I've been researching into alternatives as well, rice hulls, sand, pebbles all mentioned seem like valid options. Also have heard of using soil made from bark fines, which is more aerated than regular potting soil. I'm actually really curious about the kitty litter thing, though I can't find a lot about it. Since it's clay does it not just retain water?
 

greasemonkeymann

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Styrofoam is supposed to be safe to grow vegetables in, so I imagine they'd be safe to grow weed in... however since OP's problem is that it accumulates at the top, this wouldn't be a very good solution. Also if you're using lights that get hot I would be even more wary of using styrofoam.

I've been researching into alternatives as well, rice hulls, sand, pebbles all mentioned seem like valid options. Also have heard of using soil made from bark fines, which is more aerated than regular potting soil. I'm actually really curious about the kitty litter thing, though I can't find a lot about it. Since it's clay does it not just retain water?
it's the usuals, pumice, vermiculite, biochar, sand, glass, perlite, volcanic rock, calcined clay, etc.
you do NOT want anything based with bark fines, absolutely not, will sequester nitrogen, and drive your ph down as well.
depending on what is in your soil mix is what should dictate what aeration you use, more organic mixes (organic content, not nutrients, the CEC) will benefit from more air displacing aeration, meaning perlite, sand and the like, in mixes that have lower CEC (coco for example) you want more water retaining qualities, from like vermiculite, and to a degree pumice.
there is no perfect aeration for everyone, it's all predicated on what you got going on, your nutrients preferences, ambient humidity, lights, ventilation, believe it or not they all work together
 
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