Opinion on botanicare nutes?

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Kronickeeper

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like the title says post your opinions experiences, likes or dislikes with their mute line especially if you have used multiple mute lines how do u feel botanicare stacks up to others
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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All bottled nutes are more or less the same. Green Wizard Nutrients use the highest quality ingredients, botanicare is solid. Ive seen gardeners get good results but its not that different than the results of notg or general organics, or AN. In all honesty it's all super overpriced and hard for me to recommend any bottled nutes knowing how cheap they are to make...you're buying a lot of water.

There's lot of info you can google about how to reverse engineer different brands of nutrients and make your own for much much cheaper. I learned how to grow organic and now I barely I have to pay for anything but my electricity. But if bottles are your thing...I would just buy whatever is cheapest and has the fewest amount of bottles...I've heard good things about Ionic...get a good strain...don't cut down too early, don't rush your cure. Unless you switch to organic (this means building your soil with organic matter not buying organic bottled nutes), whatever nutes you dump on your plant doesn't really matter that much.
 
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SSHZ

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The above statement is not true actually.....and here's why: every company uses different "grades" of nutrients and some are better than others. The real key issue is salt build up in the grow medium. Poor quality ingredients don't get all used up by the plants and therefore over time they build up and cause nute lock up when the molecules attach and become too large for the roots to absorb. Better ingredients tend to get used more by the plant. Botanicare Pure Blend Pro is a nice product, and can grow a very nice end product.
 
Rasta Roy

Rasta Roy

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SSHZ said:
The above statement is not true actually.....and here's why: every company uses different "grades" of nutrients and some are better than others. The real key issue is salt build up in the grow medium. Poor quality ingredients don't get all used up by the plants and therefore over time they build up and cause nute lock up when the molecules attach and become too large for the roots to absorb. Better ingredients tend to get used more by the plant. Botanicare Pure Blend Pro is a nice product, and can grow a very nice end product.
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I said a lot of different things...so to say all of that's not true...that's not true lol.

Different quality grade of bottled nutes will get absorbed differently.

Bottled nutes made from chemical salt fertilizers leave salt behind in the medium that can build up and cause issues.

Those made from minerals are the most readily available as long as they're properly chelated...like green wizard nutrients...

Organic bottled nutes can cause the least amount of issues when they hang out in your soil, but plants will have the hardest time up taking them due to lack of proper chelation and lack of carbon.

Of all three, they're all mostly water. They all get results. No brand has anything special about it that elevates it above another tho... that's why you should go with whatever is cheapest.
 
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SSHZ

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All salts are not created equally. For example, many salt sources have heavy metals in them, which are terrible for your plants and your health. Fertilizers can also have other poisons in them at low doses, i.e. hazardous waste, arsenic, cadmium, chromium, nickel, dioxin, and PBT's. I didn't mean Rasta's complete comments were false, just some were "not completely true". Botanicare chelates some of their ingredients, normally the ones that tend to bind easily i.e. iron as an example. Pure Blend Pro would be considered totally organic if not for an early manufacturing process using hydrogen compound that is not allowed for organic certification.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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SSHZ said:
All salts are not created equally. For example, many salt sources have heavy metals in them, which are terrible for your plants and your health. Fertilizers can also have other poisons in them at low doses, i.e. hazardous waste, arsenic, cadmium, chromium, nickel, dioxin, and PBT's. I didn't mean Rasta's complete comments were false, just some were "not completely true". Botanicare chelates some of their ingredients, normally the ones that tend to bind easily i.e. iron as an example. Pure Blend Pro would be considered totally organic if not for an early manufacturing process using hydrogen compound that is not allowed for organic certification.
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No it would never be considered organic, even if it had some dumb omri listing on it, bottled nutrients are not organic no matter how hard you hope they are, they have non-organic preservatives in them, organic gardeners do not use bottled nutrients, the only bottle that goes near my garden is unsulphered molasses. Even general organics is not organic, no bottled nutrient is truly organic, and calling them organic is an insult to people that take the time out and do things the right way. You are basically paying someone to make your nutrient mix, and you don't know what is in these bottles.
 
Freddie Millergogo

Freddie Millergogo

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Rasta Roy said:
Or just use the miracle gro liquid nutes you can buy at any big box store for half the price of what you spend on fancy labels at the hydro store. Its the same shit.
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Try to buy Schultz or JP Peters (Jacks) over Miracle Grow. I like Schultz stuff. Big Mike who started Advanced Nutrients and has been a big grower hates M Gro and says they are buddies with MonSatan. He also says growing will eventually become Big Corporate which is gonna really suck. I hope not.

Schultz rooting or cloning powder is pretty good and cheap.
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Freddie Millergogo

Freddie Millergogo

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OldMedUser said:
Botanicare like General Hydro/Organics is owned by Scotts Miracle-Gro/Mon$anto and should be avoided like the plague those companies are!
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They are off my list for that reason and also their bottle are the f****ng worst. they leak all over the place. Freaking Botanicare Silca Blast and Cal Mag are almost impossible to get on a spoon or milliliter beaker without spilling a ton of it. And no I am not stoned, blind or have shaky hands when I try to get it out of the bottle. General Hydro's bottles are just as bad.

F them.
 
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Kronickeeper

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Thank for the replies everyone, as far as Botanicare goes, I've been using their line for several years now, and I haven't had any issues. I've used their line starting in hydro, then soil and coco, and never had issues with salt build up or nutrient lock out, or ph issues. I was looking more for info from people who have used their line and others and get your opinions on which ones you liked better and why. I have no complaints about botanicare but if there was another brand that provided a boost in production or quality I would consider exploring other brands.
 
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Kronickeeper

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churchhaze said:
Yes, it's all about grades of nutrients, for example, if you buy my brand of nutrients, it's the best grade! Other brands won't absorb in the nutrients and have heavy metals and blah blah blah.... salt build up if you don't buy my brand... More blah blah blah.

This thread is worthless.
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Your response sure is
 
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churchhaze

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My opinion on botanicare.... They're the company that pushes the useless and overpriced cal-mag+ product, right? That's my opinion.
 
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