Ttystikk's vertical goodness

bassman999

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I'm willing to bet a SIPS of 30 gallons would grow plants that would command respect, with a good organic mix and LOTS of light.
I have pulled over a pound from 2x5x5 tent more than once with organic water only and 376 watts at the wall of dimmed cobs, but I am not getting the taste I want for some reason and so am open to advice. Could be strain or drying curing I guess...

The stuff I flowered in soil-less with nutes has plenty of flavor hough
 

jrock420

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I have pulled over a pound from 2x5x5 tent more than once with organic water only and 376 watts at the wall of dimmed cobs, but I am not getting the taste I want for some reason and so am open to advice. Could be strain or drying curing I guess...

The stuff I flowered in soil-less with nutes has plenty of flavor hough
How u drying? I had the same problem. Then I started drying even slower, whole plants hung up about a week or so weather dependant.
 

pop22

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Too much N will kill the flavor, and its about the only organic nutrient that is easy to over do, except for maybe kelp meal, and even then, you'd need a LOT of kelp meal to be an issue.

Some people find crabshell helps with low flavor strains, the rumor is anyway. I haven't tried any yet. I may in the greenhouse in the spring
 

ttystikk

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I'm willing to bet a SIPS of 30 gallons would grow plants that would command respect, with a good organic mix and LOTS of light.
That's about 4x bigger than I really want to have to fuck with.

Overkill is a valid strategy, but I'm trying to get more from less here, hence my reluctance to throw massive piles of dirt at the issue.

If I can get the same results with a ten gallon tub and SIPS as opposed to 30 gallons, that's a big win in many ways.

And of course, I could still be wrong. Time will tell.
 

bassman999

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Stay away from the redheads!
lol
How u drying? I had the same problem. Then I started drying even slower, whole plants hung up about a week or so weather dependant.
Hang whole plant, usually 7 days or more. My last run hung for 14 days before I started trimming, then into bags after trimming for a week then jars burped for a week or so, and now have Bovida pack in each jar.
its a bottom watered/self watering pot, pretty much the same as what I've seen called duo-ponics. I call it soil-ponics lol!
so it (sips) water from bottom as needed I see.
Too much N will kill the flavor, and its about the only organic nutrient that is easy to over do, except for maybe kelp meal, and even then, you'd need a LOT of kelp meal to be an issue.

Some people find crabshell helps with low flavor strains, the rumor is anyway. I haven't tried any yet. I may in the greenhouse in the spring
Do you have a recipe you wanna share?
I have 11 plants that I want to taste strong!!!
They arent in flower yt and will be up-potted once more so I could make a new mix for them.
 

bassman999

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That's about 4x bigger than I really want to have to fuck with.

Overkill is a valid strategy, but I'm trying to get more from less here, hence my reluctance to throw massive piles of dirt at the issue.

If I can get the same results with a ten gallon tub and SIPS as opposed to 30 gallons, that's a big win in many ways.

And of course, I could still be wrong. Time will tell.
I love overkill, as long as it is detrimental.
 

pop22

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I've found curing to be the source of good taste, and over drying to hurt it. I 3-5 days, depending on humidity, the dryer the air, the sooner I jar them up. I ALWAYS us Boveda packs and since i did that, you can smell a jar of my weed across the room when I open it. I also use a cheap hygrometer in every jar. I dump the jars out on a cookie sheet if humidity is over 65%. At 65% I burp the jars twicw a day unitl the RH is between 59-62%. I keep them there for at least a month...if I haven't smoked it all......lol! After that you can keep it for months at 59-62%, or dry it for longer storage.
 

pop22

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I'll post more soon. I'm having trouble keeping things straight right now. I was overdosed at the hospital Thursday while under sedation. They hit me with 500 mg of Ketamine! I hallucinated for 10 hours, and was sure i was going to die.......... I still feel scrambled from it

lol

Hang whole plant, usually 7 days or more. My last run hung for 14 days before I started trimming, then into bags after trimming for a week then jars burped for a week or so, and now have Bovida pack in each jar.

so it (sips) water from bottom as needed I see.

Do you have a recipe you wanna share?
I have 11 plants that I want to taste strong!!!
They arent in flower yt and will be up-potted once more so I could make a new mix for them.
 

Seriousbuds

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Somewhere there's a herd of donkeys missing their dicks;
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Star Glue, 56 days.
I've never seen anything like this. You're yielding what, 1.5 pounds off that first plant? In a 3x2x6ish space? That's fucking insane. If I had higher ceilings and no tent I would be doing this right now.

Have you thought about mounting a bar to the roof and then a bunch of rope hangers to lift that donkey dicks? I don't even know that this would do anything though, might just be a pain in the ass.
Or sliding a bar behind the fence? I wonder if a wall of samsung/bridgelux strips on the back would do anything.
 

ttystikk

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I've never seen anything like this. You're yielding what, 1.5 pounds off that first plant? In a 3x2x6ish space? That's fucking insane. If I had higher ceilings and no tent I would be doing this right now.

Have you thought about mounting a bar to the roof and then a bunch of rope hangers to lift that donkey dicks? I don't even know that this would do anything though, might just be a pain in the ass.
Or sliding a bar behind the fence? I wonder if a wall of samsung/bridgelux strips on the back would do anything.
The trellis panel is seen edge on in this pic, it's 6' tall x 4' across. That height does not include the 5 gallon bucket. The plant is roughly a foot thick. Yes, 24 zips is a fair guess, we'll know when she's cured.
 

bassman999

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I've found curing to be the source of good taste, and over drying to hurt it. I 3-5 days, depending on humidity, the dryer the air, the sooner I jar them up. I ALWAYS us Boveda packs and since i did that, you can smell a jar of my weed across the room when I open it. I also use a cheap hygrometer in every jar. I dump the jars out on a cookie sheet if humidity is over 65%. At 65% I burp the jars twicw a day unitl the RH is between 59-62%. I keep them there for at least a month...if I haven't smoked it all......lol! After that you can keep it for months at 59-62%, or dry it for longer storage.
AI dont have any hygrometers and would need a dozen to use it in all jars when I have a good amount, because only 2oz or so a jar usually so I have extra space in jars
 

bassman999

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I'll post more soon. I'm having trouble keeping things straight right now. I was overdosed at the hospital Thursday while under sedation. They hit me with 500 mg of Ketamine! I hallucinated for 10 hours, and was sure i was going to die.......... I still feel scrambled from it
Damn sorry to hear about that.
Why does a hospital use that?
 

Bakersfield

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Hey ttystikk, I was wondering what's your opinion on running 315w CMH in a bare bulb vertical setup?
I currently run 1000w Hortilux in a bare bulb vertical setup. I start with 30" from the bulb and I feel that I only get about 4' of good vertical yield from this single light source.
I thinking that by stacking 2 of the CMH 315's in a tighter circumference, I should get better coverage with a better spectrum.
 

Seriousbuds

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The trellis panel is seen edge on in this pic, it's 6' tall x 4' across. That height does not include the 5 gallon bucket. The plant is roughly a foot thick. Yes, 24 zips is a fair guess, we'll know when she's cured.
Have you grown vertically in a tent, and do you think it would yield more than a 4-6 plant SOG+scrog under 3x3ft of horizontal COBs?

What do you think about a double sided cob bar and hang it vertically down the middle of the tent from the ceiling. now I've got 4 or 6 buckets and I'd fix a trellis on each side, also hung from the ceiling.
 
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