United States of Corporate America

Sir Napsalot

Sir Napsalot

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LSD-25 said:
hahahaha... what? did I make too much sense in my last post, Uncle Buck? Is that why it got deleted>?.. It is funny that whenever somebody that really knows whats going on speaks up, they get posts deleted and try to get silenced... messages to Democrats: IT IS NOT THE WEALTHY 1 PERCENT THAT IS THE PROBLEM.. IT IS THE GOVERNMENT!!!!.. message to Bernie Sanders/socialist supporters: Capitalism is what made america great in the first place. it made the first cell phone, and this Computer that you we all have fun with and pay our bills with was made possible by the ingenuity of the American businessman that knew you wanted a phone that took pictures before YOU did. ect.. ect.. and its the government taxes on the businessman that hinders the economy. its the top 1 percent that gives loans to small businesses, that is who hires people.. that is what makes the united states unique.. its our contribution to the world. It is capitalism.. its not the problem. IT'S THE SOLUTION!!! And Mr. Trump knows more about it than ANYBODY.. He loves this country, and he is sick of what politicians have been doing to it.. Donald Trump saved 1200 jobs at the Carrier factory and hes not even in office yet. Ask those people that work at Carrier, that are going to have great Christmas, because of Donald Trump,what they think about our president.. so go ahead and delete my post.. because it is just proof that your butthurt cause your guy or girl didnt win the election.. and frankly is makes me sick...support your country, support your President, AND GET OVER IT!!!!! ((drop mic)).....
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Relax, dude. You performed your duty like a good little corporate shill
 
MisterBouncyBounce

MisterBouncyBounce

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st0wandgrow said:
IMO, the #1 problem with this country for some time now has been the influence that corporate America has on our political system. It's no secret that large sums of money have been "donated" to many politicians over the years in exchange for favorable legislation, corporate welfare, government contracts, etc. Trump appears to be doubling down on this and appointing corporate executives directly to powerful cabinet positions.

Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon Mobil. Andrew Puzder, CEO of CKE Restaurants. Wilbur Ross, head of an investment firm. Linda McMahon, CEO of WWE. Steven Mnuchin, Goldman Sacks. Betsy Devos, Amway billionaire.

On top of the obvious business ties, he is tapping people to head important departments that will be looking to dismantle the very departments that they are appointed to. A climate change denier as the head of the EPA? An anti-public school billionaire to head the department of education? Someone who wants to scrap the minimum wage and automate everything as secretary of labor? The list goes on.

If it's not clear to you now what Trumps motives are, then you simply aren't paying attention. The only question that remains is will congressional democrats have the spine to oppose some of these picks, and will enough republicans join them to make it stick?
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i've been wondering too how congress is going to react to these picks. i'd like to hope there will be some strong opposition but I don't have any faith in people who have been there all a long. they're complicit in what's made the country what it's become.

they all have to go. radical reform is needed.

Bernie Sanders could have set off an actual revolution, but he pulled back and played ball. It pains me to say it because at first he was everything I've been hoping for. He was saying and doing all the right things,. I had become so jaded it was shocking to hear what he was saying, the truth, plain and outright. stunning really.

but he backed up and reverted to business as usual. he took a deal. he should have taken the party to task for what they did to him and in speaking to the people, point to that as an example of how "business as usual" must end.

then he should have ran as an independent. he would have garnered a record number of votes by an independent. that would have given him a mandate which he could have used to establish a new and strong political party. which would be now poised to run candidates all across the US and take local power and poised to take national power 2 and 4 years from now.

instead he backed off, took a deal and shut his mouth and only opened it to say "vote for more of the same".
If Hilliary had won, he would have been nicely rewarded for toeing the party line. I'm sure that played into his thinking. he wasn't truly a revolutionary who was sick and tired of the status quo and was sincere in making a radical change.

Instead he started an organization from which the core people who worked on his campaign walked away from, because the head he appointed was someone he had agreed not to appoint as a condition for the core people to come over to the new organization from the campaign. Then he changed how the organization would be registered so it couldn't accept corporate money to a 501 which can.

he stoked a fire that was ready to be stoked, the iron was hot. Instead of striking, he took the conservative, safer choice.

it's too late for band-aids, for piecemeal reform here and there.
We need a revolution of political culture. A mass social movement, civil disobedience, vocal outrage, in a way laying siege to this incoming administration, while organizing politically.

I think the mentality should be the bad guys have already got the stuff and we need to get it back.
It's time for offensive.
 
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Corso312

Corso312

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LSD-25 said:
hahahaha... what? did I make too much sense in my last post, Uncle Buck? Is that why it got deleted>?.. It is funny that whenever somebody that really knows whats going on speaks up, they get posts deleted and try to get silenced... messages to Democrats: IT IS NOT THE WEALTHY 1 PERCENT THAT IS THE PROBLEM.. IT IS THE GOVERNMENT!!!!.. message to Bernie Sanders/socialist supporters: Capitalism is what made america great in the first place. it made the first cell phone, and this Computer that you we all have fun with and pay our bills with was made possible by the ingenuity of the American businessman that knew you wanted a phone that took pictures before YOU did. ect.. ect.. and its the government taxes on the businessman that hinders the economy. its the top 1 percent that gives loans to small businesses, that is who hires people.. that is what makes the united states unique.. its our contribution to the world. It is capitalism.. its not the problem. IT'S THE SOLUTION!!! And Mr. Trump knows more about it than ANYBODY.. He loves this country, and he is sick of what politicians have been doing to it.. Donald Trump saved 1200 jobs at the Carrier factory and hes not even in office yet. Ask those people that work at Carrier, that are going to have great Christmas, because of Donald Trump,what they think about our president.. so go ahead and delete my post.. because it is just proof that your butthurt cause your guy or girl didnt win the election.. and frankly is makes me sick...support your country, support your President, AND GET OVER IT!!!!! ((drop mic)).....
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We don't have capitalism, we have crony capitalism and corporate welware.
 
Corso312

Corso312

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st0wandgrow said:
IMO, the #1 problem with this country for some time now has been the influence that corporate America has on our political system. It's no secret that large sums of money have been "donated" to many politicians over the years in exchange for favorable legislation, corporate welfare, government contracts, etc. Trump appears to be doubling down on this and appointing corporate executives directly to powerful cabinet positions.

Rex Tillerson, CEO of Exxon Mobil. Andrew Puzder, CEO of CKE Restaurants. Wilbur Ross, head of an investment firm. Linda McMahon, CEO of WWE. Steven Mnuchin, Goldman Sacks. Betsy Devos, Amway billionaire.

On top of the obvious business ties, he is tapping people to head important departments that will be looking to dismantle the very departments that they are appointed to. A climate change denier as the head of the EPA? An anti-public school billionaire to head the department of education? Someone who wants to scrap the minimum wage and automate everything as secretary of labor? The list goes on.

If it's not clear to you now what Trumps motives are, then you simply aren't paying attention. The only question that remains is will congressional democrats have the spine to oppose some of these picks, and will enough republicans join them to make it stick?
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Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you wise up and make wholesale changes, I see Linda McMahon just got a cabinet position, who's the secretary of defense? Hacksaw Jim Duggan?


Now that this dipshit pulled it off, wait til you see who runs next election.. Kim Kardashian, or some other vapid Hollywood fool.
 
LSD-25

LSD-25

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Corso312 said:
We don't have capitalism, we have crony capitalism and corporate welware.
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And thats what Trump is going to take care of... He just told Carrier to stay here in the U.S or pay fines.. don't you think if Trump could be bought, he would have taken their money and let them go to Mexico, but he didnt... oh did I mention he is not taking money for being POTUS. your looking a Gift Horse in the mouth.. and Innocent before Proven guilty.. geez give The guy a chance.. and to all you shit talkers.. hey, anybody can run for POTUS,,... GO FOR IT, IF YOU THINK YOU CAN DO BETTER!!!
 
LSD-25

LSD-25

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Corso312 said:
Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you wise up and make wholesale changes, I see Linda McMahon just got a cabinet position
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Yeah and its called the small business administration.... It's a great pic, she is very successful, and will do a great job.. And shes a WOMAN!!!!! there goes your sexist argument, right out the window, that the left has been pushing all year.. hahahaha your world is crumbling cause your pedophile, Drug trafficing, Satan worshiping, Liar didn't get elected.... and if you think all those things aren't true, just look at all the youtube videos of testamony of the people that were very close to them .. do some research.
 
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LSD-25

LSD-25

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Grandpapy said:
Communism has you by the balls.
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I think your confusing Capitalism with Communism. Capitalism Is the concept of making your own money without government interference.. It is what makes America Great!!! Communism is what the U.S armed forces along with the allied forces defeated in WWII.. and tried to stop the spread of in Korea and Vietnam..
 
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schuylaar

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MisterBouncyBounce said:
i've been wondering too how congress is going to react to these picks. i'd like to hope there will be some strong opposition but I don't have any faith in people who have been there all a long. they're complicit in what's made the country what it's become.

they all have to go. radical reform is needed.

Bernie Sanders could have set off an actual revolution, but he pulled back and played ball. It pains me to say it because at first he was everything I've been hoping for. He was saying and doing all the right things,. I had become so jaded it was shocking to hear what he was saying, the truth, plain and outright. stunning really.

but he backed up and reverted to business as usual. he took a deal. he should have taken the party to task for what they did to him and in speaking to the people, point to that as an example of how "business as usual" must end.

then he should have ran as an independent. he would have garnered a record number of votes by an independent. that would have given him a mandate which he could have used to establish a new and strong political party. which would be now poised to run candidates all across the US and take local power and poised to take national power 2 and 4 years from now.

instead he backed off, took a deal and shut his mouth and only opened it to say "vote for more of the same".
If Hilliary had won, he would have been nicely rewarded for toeing the party line. I'm sure that played into his thinking. he wasn't truly a revolutionary who was sick and tired of the status quo and was sincere in making a radical change.

Instead he started an organization from which the core people who worked on his campaign walked away from, because the head he appointed was someone he had agreed not to appoint as a condition for the core people to come over to the new organization from the campaign. Then he changed how the organization would be registered so it couldn't accept corporate money to a 501 which can.

he stoked a fire that was ready to be stoked, the iron was hot. Instead of striking, he took the conservative, safer choice.

it's too late for band-aids, for piecemeal reform here and there.
We need a revolution of political culture. A mass social movement, civil disobedience, vocal outrage, in a way laying siege to this incoming administration, while organizing politically.

I think the mentality should be the bad guys have already got the stuff and we need to get it back.
It's time for offensive.
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Why did Sanders 'back up'? What 'deal'?

Please explain.
 
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