*OMG!! Obama BOMBSHELL!!!!!!!!!

Big P

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o my god becky!!! Obama is soooooo fucked in the face right now!!!! Lets see what happens:weed:


OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS' IRAQ WITHDRAWAL



LONG VIEW: Barack Obama tours Iraq with Gen. David Petraeus in July, when he sought to stall any agreement for US troop withdrawal until President Bush left office.





Last updated: 4:10 am
September 15, 2008
Posted: 4:02 am

September 15, 2008
WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."

"However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open." Zebari says.

Though Obama claims the US presence is "illegal," he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the "weakened Bush administration," Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.

While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a "realistic withdrawal date." They declined.

Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.

Supposing he wins, Obama's administration wouldn't be fully operational before February - and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.
By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.

Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament - which might well need another six months to pass it into law.
 

HotNSexyMILF

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It's nice when the rest of the world catches up to reality.. he also advocates more troops in Afghanistan.. Anti-war he surely is not..

Opps, I should watch my mouth- no talking bad about the Messiah...:shock:
 

SunnyD

Well-Known Member
I doubt he'll lose....if mccain wins palin will be president cause mccain is 200 fucking years old...lol We're gonna have another unexperience president...
 

ViRedd

New Member
I doubt he'll lose....if mccain wins palin will be president cause mccain is 200 fucking years old...lol We're gonna have another unexperience president...
Sexism, racism, homophobia ... and agism ^^^^ Same thing.

Vi
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
The only time you can trust a politician not to be a lying, manipulative bastard is when they are 6 feet under. Regardless of their party affiliation.
 

SunnyD

Well-Known Member
As long as Obama doesnt break the dozens of laws as Bush did...Why wasnt he impeached???


Clinton got some head and was about to be impeached...lol
 

ViRedd

New Member
Pretty much the brutal truth alright! If Obama does 1/2 of what he's promised so far, I'd be a happy camper.
Any thoughts on how much lobbying money O'Bama has accepted from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in payment of supporting legislation that led to the financial meltdown? :blsmoke:

Vi
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
Wouldn't have a clue, though I'm curious about how he explains the $9.5 Million he's taken from lawyers, and $338,000 he's taken from Big Pharma.
 

rezo

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i just want to know why people think that the country as a whole will be better off with mccain. and why is it that theres a spin on everything obama says i know how to comprehend english i dont need everyone elses interperatation of whats said.
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Lets see....

umm GW senior (head f CIA) ASKS Iran to keep hostages until reagan takes office... he offers more than 500 million in cash and arms...

GW senior and Reagan get elected..

They deliver the the arms, drugs and cash..

Reagan had no chance without that deal..


That being said..

The article above holds no water. I would love to get another source...
 

ViRedd

New Member
Lets see....
umm GW senior (head f CIA) ASKS Iran to keep hostages until reagan takes office... he offers more than 500 million in cash and arms...
GW senior and Reagan get elected..They deliver the the arms, drugs and cash..Reagan had no chance without that deal..

That being said..

The article above holds no water. I would love to get another source...
And your source is????

Vi
 

Spitzered

Well-Known Member
And you know how much the Iranians LOVED the CIA.
I'm sure they tripped all over themselves to comply.
I'd love to see the source also.
 

Big P

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And thier explination

Obama camp hits back at Iraq double-talk claim
Sep 15 09:15 PM US/Eastern
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Barack Obama's White House campaign angrily denied Monday a report that he had secretly urged the Iraqis to postpone a deal to withdraw US troops until after November's election.

In the New York Post, conservative Iranian-born columnist Amir Taheri quoted Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari as saying the Democrat made the demand when he visited Baghdad in July, while publicly demanding an early withdrawal.
"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview, according to Taheri.

"However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open," Zebari reportedly said.

The Republican campaign of John McCain seized on the report to accuse Obama of double-speak on Iraq, calling it an "egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas."
But Obama's national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said Taheri's article bore "as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial."

In fact, Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a "Strategic Framework Agreement" governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office, she said.

In the face of resistance from Bush, the Democrat has long said that any such agreement must be reviewed by the US Congress as it would tie a future administration's hands on Iraq.

"Barack Obama has never urged a delay in negotiations, nor has he urged a delay in immediately beginning a responsible drawdown of our combat brigades," Morigi said.

"These outright distortions will not changes the facts -- Senator Obama is the only candidate who will safely and responsibly end the war in Iraq and refocus our attention on the real threat: a resurgent Al-Qaeda and Taliban along the Afghanistan/Pakistan border."

Last Tuesday, Bush announced plans to remove 8,000 US troops from Iraq in the coming months and send 4,500 to Afghanistan by January. Obama said the president was belatedly coming round to his own way of thinking, but also accused Bush of "tinkering around the edges" and "kicking the can down the road to the next president."




and plus the story originated from the New York post
 
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