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MMJ Dreaming 99

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I know its not a huge grow but for instance growmau5 running 32-3590s underdriven at 700ma pulling over 3lb in a 4x8 doesnt that seem promising for only 850w? asking out of curiousity not trying to prove any points or anything. stuff like that is what got me interested in COBs
I am wondering how two of these would compare in a 4x8 to GrowMau5 wicked rig? This is 24 Citizen COBs - this is 1200 watts at the wall. . I am looking at this in the near future. Not trying to hijack Afghans awesome thread.

http://timbergrowlights.com/600-watt-citizen-clu048-4x4-framework/

If one Gavita with 1000 or 1150 at the wall and Afghan's friends is getting 2.4 then Gavita DE HPS still has the edge. I am still trying to figure out how GrowMau5 can run 32 - 3590s at 850 watts even way underdriven.
 

Yodaweed

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Also take into consideration the rate at which you no longer have to change out bulbs too. There has to be a formula to calculate the cost savings there based on bulb degradation of hps vs led over time.
True, that's why i am moving towards using CMH lights over single ended HPS, they last longer and run cooler, i know quite a few people getting over a pound from a single 315w cmh, wayyyy higher gram per watt than LEDs.
 

Afgan King

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I am wondering how two of these would compare in a 4x8 to GrowMau5 wicked rig? This is 24 Citizen COBs - this is 1200 watts at the wall. . I am looking at this in the near future. Not trying to hijack Afghans awesome thread.

http://timbergrowlights.com/600-watt-citizen-clu048-4x4-framework/

If one Gavita with 1000 or 1150 at the wall and Afghan's friends is getting 2.4 then Gavita DE HPS still has the edge. I am still trying to figure out how GrowMau5 can run 32 - 3590s at 850 watts even way underdriven.
Space matters he's spreading the watts over a larger area makes a difference
 

toddwalker33

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I am wondering how two of these would compare in a 4x8 to GrowMau5 wicked rig? This is 24 Citizen COBs - this is 1200 watts at the wall. . I am looking at this in the near future. Not trying to hijack Afghans awesome thread.

http://timbergrowlights.com/600-watt-citizen-clu048-4x4-framework/

If one Gavita with 1000 or 1150 at the wall and Afghan's friends is getting 2.4 then Gavita DE HPS still has the edge. I am still trying to figure out how GrowMau5 can run 32 - 3590s at 850 watts even way underdriven.
Im guessing the 850 is 8cobs per HLG185 which is around 200w so 4 of those for around 800/850w. When I get the chance im going to take the plunge and try it out. Whats the worst that happens? Longer investment recuperation time?
 

Yodaweed

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These conversations have been spread over many different threads. In my opinion you arent getting lower quality buds from cob's. Different in some ways, but lower quality, nah....
They also produce less big buds because of the lack of far red, which makes plants stretch, and is one of the main features of the HPS and why that light produces some big huge buds. If you look at the video that guy posted all the buds are kinda medium sized, because like @Afgan King said, the light is more evenly spread out , those also have much less penetration than HID lights because of how spread they are, they are mostly best for growing in a scrog or a very tight canopy with the lower stuff lollipopped. They don't work as well as HID lights for growing big beast plants if you are into that type thing.
 

Yodaweed

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Different strokes for different folks I guess. So add the far red in too...
Yea true i seen a lot of people that use cobs building far red bars , and using UV t5's , just a lot of extra if you want to get the same quality a CMH or proper HID grow can do, and for a higher price tag.
 
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