INDOOR V.S OUTDOOR

[Jimmy Sparkle]

So ive been talking to some buddies that cropped out in October outside here in the PAC. N.W . We have sampled lots of outdoor grows some professional most not but.... Flavor and potency just isnt there compaired to indoor grown flowers. I am strictly an indoor kind of guy but have grown a whole bunch outside as well and other than size of harvest I just dont see the point. Id personally rather overpay for an ounce o.k indoor over premium outdoor any day. Maybe outdoor people we sampled from didnt have any idea what the fuck they were doing? Your thoughts ????

 

[Budley Doright]

I find hydro has more distinct flavour profiles versus soil but I've been a soil grower for many years with most done outdoors. Mind you I get some pretty tasty outdoor plants

 

[vostok]

Both under the right conditions will rock!!

Trickier outdoors, but shows

as indoors is great but never fantastic

often outdoors fuckups proof to be earners

like the sativa that gets eaten by deer in week 2 of veg

that grows to a 15 foot chimney

as an example

good luck

 

[Budley Doright]

Both under the right conditions will rock!!

Trickier outdoors, but shows

as indoors is great but never fantastic

often outdoors fuckups proof to be earners

like the sativa that gets eaten by deer in week 2 of veg

that grows to a 15 foot chimney

as an example

good luck

Some of my indoor (clone) plants did better under lights in hydro than they could have ever done outdoors. But yes the majority of outdoor plants yielded more, the veg time was longer though lol.
Edit: I like 15' sativa chimneys .

 

[AimAim]

Growing outdoors you are at the mercy of the weather. Blazing hot and dry where watering becomes a chore, then 4 weeks of rain right at cutdown time. Then you can have a perfect growing year the next. Indoors more controlled of course. Your best outdoor plant will dwarf your best indoor on weight.

Airier buds outdoors, but weight is weight once it goes through the grinder.

 

[Budley Doright]

Growing outdoors you are at the mercy of the weather. Blazing hot and dry where watering becomes a chore, then 4 weeks of rain right at cutdown time. Then you can have a perfect growing year the next. Indoors more controlled of course. Your best outdoor plant will dwarf your best indoor on weight.

Airier buds outdoors, but weight is weight once it goes through the grinder.

True that lol, had the worst draught of the century here. Also there are different scenarios that come in to play like is it legal or not to grow? Pretty sure my outdoor ones would be a tad better cared for if it was. I grow now mostly as a hobby and sell a few pounds to very close friends but never sell my indoor as I like it way more .

 

[vostok]

I'm sold of the wine idea being borrowed by the weed community

as like with grapes, buds picked from one bush on a a/typical soil

will result in terps being very different from the other

offering a completely different profile

 

[Dr. Who]

There are things I agree with here and more things I don't!

I grow most of my "personal" outdoors, in my soil, in containers. They go out after just expressing the beginning of the stretch, and about 2 weeks before they would "flip" to bloom if they were "in the ground" plants.

They are kept in direct sun for 90+% of the day! Hiding a grow in the woods and less then 75% direct lighting doesn't get the job done to well!

This makes for closer nodal spacing and no real stretch as she just attempts to reg veg before going right back to bloom. I get massive buds in length.

The outdoors supplies the wonderful natural light spectrum that has those fantastic UV bands that actually increase the potency!

The only real problem I have. Is the season is too short for a real solid finish sometimes. Even when I bring plants in and out after dark and right before the sun starts to come up. Till it gets too cold...A greenhouse would be nice but, it would attract to much attention on my properties if running late season! We have a small one for starting celery/onions at the muck farm.

I have never had any indoor other then ones run with UV supplemental lighting come close to out-door potency!
I have never had any indoor, in any non organic method run, taste as good as organic soil run plants! IN or OUT doors!

@vostok You are so very correct there V! The make-up of the soil and it's available nutrient profile, along with differing bacterial profiles, from my experience, make for differing Terp profiles!

IF, you are growing indoors and adding any P sulfates, or K sulfates or simply S in any way. You are "enhancing" the terp profiles of the plant. By the use of P sulfates, your expressing a more "berry" profile and with K sulfates a more lemon and citrus profile...The use of S it's self will increase trichome production and thus, enhance the natural terp profile of the plant by volume increase of terps..

So then. Building your soil, even for in-ground (if the season is long enough) and with a little micro management.....Will kill indoors!

UNLESS you run organic and supply supplemental lighting in the UV bands. If you run HPS, you'll need some more blue spectrum to help out too!

IF you know what your doing! It can be hard to tell! But I have old school friends ask specifically for my outdoor, even over the same strains run indoors......It seems to have a more "trippy" quality to it, and the buzz seems to last longer too.
It's my party weed and the Hash I give out at a local growers/friends Christmas party is all made from outdoor.....The outdoor shatter is for New Years....

Outdoor RULES in my book!

 

[23Jumpman23]

IMO you have to give outdoors as much attention as you would an indoor hydro plant for it to be worth a shit. The best shit ive ever smoked i grew outdoors and i was outside 3-5x a day. Any other time it wasnt even close. Maybe it was genetics or maybe the high stress envomironment it vegged though made it do some crazy auxin-terpene-trigger-o-matic shit idk.( drunk buddy got into a fight and ran to my house, cops came so me and another ran to backyard, uprooted plants, threw em in the leaf pile. NEXT MORNING went outside, found my folded up plants, rinsed the roots in my pools salt water and threw em in some cheap ass soil and kept giving em superthrive/ biocanna line and shit was pure gas.)

 

[Budley Doright]

There are things I agree with here and more things I don't!

I grow most of my "personal" outdoors, in my soil, in containers. They go out after just expressing the beginning of the stretch, and about 2 weeks before they would "flip" to bloom if they were "in the ground" plants.

They are kept in direct sun for 90+% of the day! Hiding a grow in the woods and less then 75% direct lighting doesn't get the job done to well!

This makes for closer nodal spacing and no real stretch as she just attempts to reg veg before going right back to bloom. I get massive buds in length.

The outdoors supplies the wonderful natural light spectrum that has those fantastic UV bands that actually increase the potency!

The only real problem I have. Is the season is too short for a real solid finish sometimes. Even when I bring plants in and out after dark and right before the sun starts to come up. Till it gets too cold...A greenhouse would be nice but, it would attract to much attention on my properties if running late season! We have a small one for starting celery/onions at the muck farm.

I have never had any indoor other then ones run with UV supplemental lighting come close to out-door potency!
I have never had any indoor, in any non organic method run, taste as good as organic soil run plants! IN or OUT doors!

@vostok You are so very correct there V! The make-up of the soil and it's available nutrient profile, along with differing bacterial profiles, from my experience, make for differing Terp profiles!

IF, you are growing indoors and adding any P sulfates, or K sulfates or simply S in any way. You are "enhancing" the terp profiles of the plant. By the use of P sulfates, your expressing a more "berry" profile and with K sulfates a more lemon and citrus profile...The use of S it's self will increase trichome production and thus, enhance the natural terp profile of the plant by volume increase of terps..

So then. Building your soil, even for in-ground (if the season is long enough) and with a little micro management.....Will kill indoors!

UNLESS you run organic and supply supplemental lighting in the UV bands. If you run HPS, you'll need some more blue spectrum to help out too!

IF you know what your doing! It can be hard to tell! But I have old school friends ask specifically for my outdoor, even over the same strains run indoors......It seems to have a more "trippy" quality to it, and the buzz seems to last longer too.
It's my party weed and the Hash I give out at a local growers/friends Christmas party is all made from outdoor.....The outdoor shatter is for New Years....

Outdoor RULES in my book!

Your outdoor is more potent due to it being outdoors? Hmmm, I guess we agree to disagree then lol. Strain for strain I don't see a huge difference in effect but I do get way more yield outside. I just find all soil grows are kind of bland in the taste department, kind of generic I guess but again maybe I've just smoked to much outdoor compared to my hydro setup. I know this is going against what all say versus organic but maybe my taste buds are fucked up lol.

 

[Dr. Who]

Soil runs and synthetic are no better then your hydro! For taste, it has to be organic to make the difference big!

Oh, hell yes I disagree! Outdoors is always better then indoor - IF done properly! In every time I had comparative testing done,,,it was outdoor by 3 points at least! WAY different type of buzz too!

Like I said, I can get close indoors.....but natures light spectrum simply KILLS!

Oh and Budley, When medical was first legal in Cali. The bulk of all disp. Would only buy outdoor for the quality it gave.....Indoor came later to the party....I think it was Harborside in Frisco that took in the first indoor, and it had to be done to their fussy liking too!

Now the whole thing has shifted the other way but, you'll still find mucho outdoor on the "TOP SHELF" in many states! Just for that potency factor ...

 

[23Jumpman23]

Your outdoor is more potent due to it being outdoors? Hmmm, I guess we agree to disagree then lol. Strain for strain I don't see a huge difference in effect but I do get way more yield outside. I just find all soil grows are kind of bland in the taste department, kind of generic I guess but again maybe I've just smoked to much outdoor compared to my hydro setup. I know this is going against what all say versus organic but maybe my taste buds are fucked up lol.

Id agree with you, MOST of the "organic" or "outdoor" bud i taste, are extremely similar / earthy and i hate tasting dirt. As a matter of fact, back in TX anything you got that actually stunk up your car and tasted like a skunks ass, came out of hydroponic/aeroponic gardens.

 

[ISK]

My outdoor is actually grown indoors....or maybe I should say my indoor is grown like outdoor....it's a trick question for me

 

[Jimmy Sparkle]

I just tried some outdoor my uncle brought up from kern county. Outdoor Cali style. Still rather have indoor grown bud.!!! Im sorry but Im just not buying the potency/smell ect from the outdoor. It does smell good, it is sticky but nay nay I say you better do better than that for convincing purposes. Taste and potency from indoor is superior. Im STILL waiting for some outdoor to prove me wrong. Tick tock tick tock lol. But yes, if you want huge yields then by all means grow outdoors.

 

[Budley Doright]

Soil runs and synthetic are no better then your hydro! For taste, it has to be organic to make the difference big!

Oh, hell yes I disagree! Outdoors is always better then indoor - IF done properly! In every time I had comparative testing done,,,it was outdoor by 3 points at least! WAY different type of buzz too!

Like I said, I can get close indoors.....but natures light spectrum simply KILLS!

Oh and Budley, When medical was first legal in Cali. The bulk of all disp. Would only buy outdoor for the quality it gave.....Indoor came later to the party....I think it was Harborside in Frisco that took in the first indoor, and it had to be done to their fussy liking too!

Now the whole thing has shifted the other way but, you'll still find mucho outdoor on the "TOP SHELF" in many states! Just for that potency factor ...

My outdoor is for the most part organic Doc, and so are my crop fields, certified organic I might add . And I do hear you but I still prefer my hydro lol. To each his own I guess . As for potency again to each his own. It may be that I enjoy doing the indoor thing as a hobby and outdoor is my cash crop. Don't get me wrong as I'm not arguing just discussing . All the crops growing on my fields go to an organic dairy and yes it does taste better than regular milk as far as I'm concerned but pot, for me, seems different, perhaps I need a good flush lol.

 

[Rayne]

Here is all I am going to say, on this topic...

Indoor grows often lacks ultra violet b, ultra violet a, and or infrared.
Outdoor grows are exposed to uv b, uv a, and infrared every day.

Grow medium and additional nutrients/minerals are personal choice. Feel free to use the same as others if you wish.

Studying horticulture, botany, and or agronomy is worth the effort.

No, you are not "god" to the plants.

 

[Dr. Who]

^^^BINGO^^^

As for the rest of you who believe indoor is better....The world is flat and the solar system revolves around the earth!

I'm done here too!

 

[Budley Doright]

Well ok then Mr Cranky pants lol. I guess personal choice is not allowed ......

 

[OldMedUser]

I'd like to be able to grow outdoors but way up here in the Great White North photo plants don't start flowering until the middle of Aug and we can get frost by the end of Aug so it's autos or a greenhouse you can darken to force flower them.

To that aim I'm breeding my own autos from my fave photo strain and my F2 beans are all almost ripe. As soon as I can they will be grown out to re-cross for the F3s and hopefully will be mostly autos for outdoor planting in early June which is the earliest that you can plant up here tho we often get some snow after that. Fingers crossed!

I'm not saying one is better than the other as there are so many variables that make the subject moot. It's undeniable that a good blend of organic materials will give a wider spectrum of tastes and terps but it's a real gamble when you grow outside and mother nature is the boss.

I used to live one mile from the US border just north of Lynden, WA and saw some monster plants grown in my neck of the woods that I sure would like to replicate here but hoping to plant a couple hundred autos this spring to get some bulk. Free growing plants with minimal attention around some of the many dugouts along the sides of the back roads all around me.

 

[Budley Doright]

I'd like to be able to grow outdoors but way up here in the Great White North photo plants don't start flowering until the middle of Aug and we can get frost by the end of Aug so it's autos or a greenhouse you can darken to force flower them.

To that aim I'm breeding my own autos from my fave photo strain and my F2 beans are all almost ripe. As soon as I can they will be grown out to re-cross for the F3s and hopefully will be mostly autos for outdoor planting in early June which is the earliest that you can plant up here tho we often get some snow after that. Fingers crossed!

I'm not saying one is better than the other as there are so many variables that make the subject moot. It's undeniable that a good blend of organic materials will give a wider spectrum of tastes and terps but it's a real gamble when you grow outside and mother nature is the boss.

I used to live one mile from the US border just north of Lynden, WA and saw some monster plants grown in my neck of the woods that I sure would like to replicate here but hoping to plant a couple hundred autos this spring to get some bulk. Free growing plants with minimal attention around some of the many dugouts along the sides of the back roads all around me.

Where the hell are you lol. Frost at the end of August? North of the 40th are you? We had our first frost the middle of Oct. and I was concerned, usually try to finish middle of sept, but I ran a stupidly long strain and got lucky . I am searching for an auto that is good, It's been a long search lol.