The View From the Left

Olive Drab Green

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Fuck Trump, but Pence is a much more serious threat. Remind the crazy bastard who decides to go Oswald to not get one if he can't get the other successively.

Not that I'm condoning that kind of thing.
 

Lucky Luke

Well-Known Member
Is Donald Trump a Soviet puppet ?

Do we need a new election on the grounds of election tampering?

Should Trump be impeached to find out what and if any involvement he may of had?

Why is FB not blowing this up and getting answers?

How can your President elect not pay his 5m debt to workers (again)?

Is it because the Left is to weak to drive this where it needs to go? (the Trump supporters would be whipping up a social media shit storm)
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Dipshit, gmornin. That's rather big headed of you don't ya think. Any movement you make on par with Occupy will assuredly be countered by Uncle Sam. Your right to speak, be heard, assemble, protest, grieve, will encounter a moving boundary. The boundary stops where Uncle Sam decides it stops. Rights? Never heard of her! Fuck your rights.
you're drunk already?
 

ArcticGranite

Well-Known Member
Is Donald Trump a Soviet puppet ?

Do we need a new election on the grounds of election tampering?

Should Trump be impeached to find out what and if any involvement he may of had?

Why is FB not blowing this up and getting answers?

How can your President elect not pay his 5m debt to workers (again)?

Is it because the Left is to weak to drive this where it needs to go? (the Trump supporters would be whipping up a social media shit storm)
No
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Justin-case

Well-Known Member
You like Paul Ryan?

Eddie Munster, nope.http://data:image/jpeg;base64,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
 

ArcticGranite

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Eddie Munster, nope.http://data:image/jpeg;base64,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
You're as dense as balsa wood, admit it.
 

Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
Dipshit, gmornin. That's rather big headed of you don't ya think. Any movement you make on par with Occupy will assuredly be countered by Uncle Sam. Your right to speak, be heard, assemble, protest, grieve, will encounter a moving boundary. The boundary stops where Uncle Sam decides it stops. Rights? Never heard of her! Fuck your rights.
Just wanted to say, speaking as a former soldier, we wouldn't do fuck all to stop Occupy. Many of us sympathize. The government is fucked, and we probably get it better than anyone. Besides, why would you expect a service member to oppress free speech in the same country they are in service to? (You know? Home?)
 

ArcticGranite

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Just wanted to say, speaking as a former soldier, we wouldn't do fuck all to stop Occupy. Many of us sympathize. The government is fucked, and we probably get it better than anyone. Besides, why would you expect a service member to oppress free speech in the same country they are in service to? (You know? Home?)
Posse Comitatus. Your respect of it is right and appreciated.
 

Olive Drab Green

Well-Known Member
Posse Comitatis. Your respect of it is right and appreciated.
Sure, posse comitatus is an option. You won't see any service member there. We don't oppress, we liberate. You know? "De Oppresso Liber?" We aren't fascists. And if the Sheriff chooses to give that despicable order, there'll likely be resistance from quite a few. All of them present, sua sponte. Vires Montesque Vincimus.
 

ArcticGranite

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Sure, posse comitatus is an option. You won't see any service member there. We don't oppress, we liberate. You know? "De Oppresso Liber?" We aren't fascists. And if the Sheriff chooses to give that despicable order, there'll likely be resistance from quite a few. All of them present, sua sponte.
Humor me. Posse Comitatus Act is the law. Not an "option", yes???

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
 

Lucky Luke

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Just wanted to say, speaking as a former soldier, we wouldn't do fuck all to stop Occupy. Many of us sympathize. The government is fucked, and we probably get it better than anyone. Besides, why would you expect a service member to oppress free speech in the same country they are in service to? (You know? Home?)
I think the problem lies in the future not the present.

We have seen Police go from preventing and solving crime and a respected parra military force to being a tool for revenue raising. Thus losing the respect of the population they protect. "us and them"

We are seeing the armed forces starting to be used as a policing force. I suggest that then they will start losing the respect of the population. This will alienate them just like it does the policeman.

This creates "us and them" and the Military force will become like the Parra military force (Police). They will do what they are told against the population they are meant to protect. And think they are in the right for doing so. "Its the law" and the law is meant to protect us.

Wont happen this year, wont happen next year but it will happen,
 

Olive Drab Green

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ArcticGranite

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Sure, posse comitatus is an option. You won't see any service member there. We don't oppress, we liberate. You know? "De Oppresso Liber?" We aren't fascists. And if the Sheriff chooses to give that despicable order, there'll likely be resistance from quite a few. All of them present, sua sponte. Vires Montesque Vincimus.
The Latin sounds interesting. I don't read it and would like to hear the translation please.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I think the problem lies in the future not the present.

We have seen Police go from preventing and solving crime and a respected parra military force to being a tool for revenue raising. Thus losing the respect of the population they protect. "us and them"

We are seeing the armed forces starting to be used as a policing force. I suggest that then they will start losing the respect of the population. This will alienate them just like it does the policeman.

This creates "us and them" and the Military force will become like the Parra military force (Police). They will do what they are told against the population they are meant to protect. And think they are in the right for doing so. "Its the law" and the law is meant to protect us.

Wont happen this year, wont happen next year but it will happen,
I don't think you have ever served. It doesn't quite work the way police do. I find policemen and most of the judicial system and legislature regarding criminal code to be disgraceful.

However, there are values that are instilled in us. In our oath, we first swear loyalty to the people and Constitution, and the second clause is where we swear loyalty and obedience to the President. If they conflict, most of us are going to go with the first clause, especially anyone who has ever served in combat. We know the difference between home and the enemy.
 
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