4x8 or 5x9 Gorilla Tent and Yield?

[714steadyeddie]

For the record; my statements to Cookie Master still stand. I only apologized to prove that I am the better man, and better looking too. In a short time of starting the grow, I will eventually become a better grower than him. I know an idiot when I deal with one. I am not here to pick a fight, I am here to learn from more humble growers who are willing to give knowledge and wisdom; those who do not contradict my ideas so quickly. Growers who understand the passion of growing, and those who are not foolishly consumed by their own mind to the point of being more dumb than smart.

ProAmateur Out..........

Hopefully you don't over think your grow.
Keep it simple stoner.

Which medium are you growing in? Have you decided on which nutrients to go with ?

Scrog would be your best bet and very user friendly. You wouldn't need to worry too much about canopy management once they start budding.

Don't be the type to hover around your plants everyday worrying about every little thing.

Good luck

 

[ProAmateur]

Hopefully all the research I have done will fall in place as I attempt my first grow. Now its down to the slow process of gathering equipment and deciding on the fixture. Gavita fixtures are decently priced, but I am worried about the heat in a 5x5 setup.

I have been considering doing a grow journal.

Thanks.

 

[ProAmateur]

Hopefully you don't over think your grow.
Keep it simple stoner.

Which medium are you growing in? Have you decided on which nutrients to go with ?

Scrog would be your best bet and very user friendly. You wouldn't need to worry too much about canopy management once they start budding.

Don't be the type to hover around your plants everyday worrying about every little thing.

Good luck

Medium: Roots Organic soil(formula 707) - 70RO/20fiber/10perlite
Technique: LST and SCROG
Nutes: Advanced Nutrients
In the beginning I prolly will, unfortunately.

For the record, I don't smoke very often due to job

 

[WeedFreak78]

Hopefully all the research I have done will fall in place as I attempt my first grow. Now its down to the slow process of gathering equipment and deciding on the fixture. Gavita fixtures are decently priced, but I am worried about the heat in a 5x5 setup.

I have been considering doing a grow journal.

Thanks.

The gavita DE needs something like 9-10ft of head room. I don't think it will work well in a tent.

 

[Rider509]

The gavita DE needs something like 9-10ft of head room. I don't think it will work well in a tent.

Step away from the bong, WeedFreak. LOL.
The Gavita is widely used in grow tents. Here's a complete 5x9 kit with TWO Gavita 1000W DE fixtures.
http://growershouse.com/gavita-double-ended-1000w-grow-room-package-5x9

 

[WeedFreak78]

Step away from the bong, WeedFreak. LOL.
The Gavita is widely used in grow tents. Here's a complete 5x9 kit with TWO Gavita 1000W DE fixtures.
http://growershouse.com/gavita-double-ended-1000w-grow-room-package-5x9

So someone sells a kit so that makes it right? Did you read how they include a tent extension to get to a 7'11" height, and offer others to get up to 9'11" height.

I looked into gavitas when I was buying lights, they say a 9'+ head height for optimal use. Should be around 36" away from the canopy. Is not a typical 1000 hid. They were designed for commercial operations, not home grows.

Put down your bong, I can handle my shit.

 

[Rider509]

How about we share a bong instead?
The OP said he was planning on a 5x9 Gorilla so he should have the height. And he also said he was going to scrog so he should have the distance from the canopy. And with the Gavita small room reflectors that would be a killer combo, especially since it can be dimmed to 600, 750, or 825 watts, or boosted to 1150. If he decides to grow sativas all bets are off! LOL
That being said, I hate HPS lights. Even with Method7 Zeiss glasses they give me an eye ache.
I'm running 3590s in both tents.

 

[Dreameaterxo]

How worried are you about heat?

If you get decent dividends from your initial grow in the small tent, I'd say invest them into the larger tent with LEDs for lighting. Keep your smaller tent for your clones and early vegging. Don't wrinkle your nose yet--they have a bad rap because too many people fall for the cheap blurple (blue-purple) diodes in fixtures offered by companies like MARS.

You seem like you'd enjoy Growmau5's vids on YouTube. He's incredibly bright, and committed to reviewing and educating about LEDs with no bias. Purely quantitative. His numbers are fascinating and he proves over and over that a decent COB LED can be twice as efficient as conventional lighting.

 

[ProAmateur]

Restricted by my budget; I am looking into the 5x5 tent setup. After a couple runs I am planning on getting a 5x9 setup, and turning the 5x5 into a veg/clone room for perpetual growing.

The tent measures 5' X 5' X 7.9167' Tall. LED's are too expensive for my budget right now.

Would I be able to get away with using a Gavita 1000E DE fixture in that volume of space? Concerning the 4500 BTU's of heat and no flow hood.
----OR----
Should I continue with purchasing the LEC 630W Fixture?
It will pull less power, run cooler, and create a smaller imprint on the electric bill.

Interested in the Gavita but, I personally think it would produce too much heat in the 5x5 and would cause me more headache than what it is worth. Good reviews and everybody I talk to swear by them, "nothing better than a double ended bulb" they say. - words from experienced growers.

Any thoughts gentlemen?

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

unless you have a source i am unaware of, Gavits start off at about 450 bucks...you could get a pretty decent d.i.y. led set up going for 450 bucks........

 

[ProAmateur]

I am more asking towards what type of heat I will be dealing with by placing a Gavita 1000e in a 5x5 tent. But, if my budget allows, I will be using the LEC 630 in favor of the electric bill.

 

[Rider509]

Where are you planning on venting the tent? Outside or inside the grow room?

 

[Budget Buds]

So here is my question, would I be able to pull close to 4-5 pounds with a decent veg time, in a 5x9 or 4x8 tent utilizing 2-630w fixture-LEC growing 6-8 plants(gorilla glue, Jock Horror, Headband) Sativa dominant strains, in 7-10 gallon pots in 1 grow?

Yeah you could , If plant count was not an issue you could SOG it and pull maybe double the weight every cycle with less time between cycles (veg) EX: I have a 40x40inch tent with a 1 k hps in it and I can pull 2-2.5 lbs every 55ish days running 32 plants sog style (critical+2.0 70% sativa) . It's more work cloning and stuff but i get an extra harvest every year cause of a short veg time

 

[GangusKush]

Yeah you could , If plant count was not an issue you could SOG it and pull maybe double the weight every cycle with less time between cycles (veg) EX: I have a 40x40inch tent with a 1 k hps in it and I can pull 2-2.5 lbs every 55ish days running 32 plants sog style (critical+2.0 70% sativa) . It's more work cloning and stuff but i get an extra harvest every year cause of a short veg time

2.5lbs total including trim? Or just bud, cause I can get 12ozs tops out of a 36x36 SCROG using C02, carbo loading great white and silicon in hydro, 1000w hps easily covers a 5x5 and I've done 2+ pounds in a 5x5 but 2.5 in a 40x40??? Really what crack are you giving your plants?

 

[Budget Buds]

2.5lbs total including trim? Or just bud, cause I can get 12ozs tops out of a 36x36 SCROG using C02, carbo loading great white and silicon in hydro, 1000w hps easily covers a 5x5 and I've done 2+ pounds in a 5x5 but 2.5 in a 40x40??? Really what crack are you giving your plants?

Just buds mate, there is very little trim because they are single cola plants that devote all energy into one bud between 12 and 18 inches long I have them in aeroponics and the room is dialed in tight , 2.5 lbs is the most I pulled using the critical + 2.0 , the norm is about 2lbs with my regular strain, gumboldt . that 2,5 run was impressive , but I'm getting less then 1 gpw with the others using the hps, which is about normal, I just found a way to think outside the box

 

[GangusKush]

Just buds mate, there is very little trim because they are single cola plants that devote all energy into one bud between 12 and 18 inches long I have them in aeroponics and the room is dialed in tight , 2.5 lbs is the most I pulled using the critical + 2.0 , the norm is about 2lbs with my regular strain, gumboldt . that 2,5 run was impressive , but I'm getting less then 1 gpw with the others using the hps, which is about normal, I just found a way to think outside the box

Gotta try that 32 plant small plant run, I'm use to either 1 or 3 plants in a 36x36in box if it's gonna bump my yeild that much, any reduction I quality having so many in a small space?

 

[Budget Buds]

Gotta try that 32 plant small plant run, I'm use to either 1 or 3 plants in a 36x36in box if it's gonna bump my yeild that much, any reduction I quality having so many in a small space?

Once you get it dialed in , you can double that easily. I have to run a 5k btu ac in addition to the hps cause of heat but it's worth it , Might take ya a run or two to get it dialed in though. sog is the way to go if you want quick cycles, lots of product . There is no loss of quality , it's all top shelf one nug plants, since the whole plant is a top bud .

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

sog kicks ass, just be aware if you aren't in a legal state, usually the penalties are tied to the number of plants you have, i'd love to run a sog, but the penalties here go up after ten plants, and the ten plant penalty is more than enough for me

 

[Jon E. Doe]

i'd love to run a sog, but the penalties here go up after ten plants, and the ten plant penalty is more than enough for me

Right!

 

[GangusKush]

Right!

As a medical patient in California, you can grow as much as you medically need in 100 sq ft that's a 10x10 room, if you go over that 10x10 you need permits or a count and space bump from a doctor, if medical laws are similar in other states to California you shouldn't have a problem at all, not to mention it very hard to process a warrant for cannabis related busts these day, can search due to smell, power, gardening trash in Cali, just watch that traffic if you selling!!