Nanners nanners everywhere

oldfogey420

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New member here, with a "what would you do" question. For the sake of conversation, let's say you have a 4x3 space, 600w hps, the room is totally dialed in. And let's say you have a full scrog canopy of clones all from the same mom, at 30 days of flower...and I mean FULL canopy! You open up one day and see a few nanners, but you're not 100% sure since in all the years you've been growing, you've never actually seen one in person. You start doing research and come to the conclusion a few days later, that yes, they are definitely nanners. And now, you realize these nanners are growing, growing as plentiful as the calyxes, the plants are packing on the buds with new calyxes and nanners growing in nearly equal amounts. They're exploding with growth.

I already know you're going to say you would tear it down and start over. I've read enough threads here and everywhere and that's the typical answer. And I agree that it's the right move...provided you are able to do so. But let's just say, this was the last hurrah, and for reasons that don't matter to this thread, you can't grow again for about a year...or so.

What would you do?

Grow them out and harvest as normal and just deal with the seeds?

Cut them now at 30 days into flower and end up with a few oz of totally unripe hermi sensi?

Wait a week or two (day 37 to 44) to let them pack on some weight but still cut early? (65 day strain)

My reservations would be that the pollen and nanners may make the bud taste like crap and smoke like crap. And if cut in a couple weeks, the buds will be filled with half developed seeds.

Your thoughts?
 

Orlando737

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New member here, with a "what would you do" question. For the sake of conversation, let's say you have a 4x3 space, 600w hps, the room is totally dialed in. And let's say you have a full scrog canopy of clones all from the same mom, at 30 days of flower...and I mean FULL canopy! You open up one day and see a few nanners, but you're not 100% sure since in all the years you've been growing, you've never actually seen one in person. You start doing research and come to the conclusion a few days later, that yes, they are definitely nanners. And now, you realize these nanners are growing, growing as plentiful as the calyxes, the plants are packing on the buds with new calyxes and nanners growing in nearly equal amounts. They're exploding with growth.

I already know you're going to say you would tear it down and start over. I've read enough threads here and everywhere and that's the typical answer. And I agree that it's the right move...provided you are able to do so. But let's just say, this was the last hurrah, and for reasons that don't matter to this thread, you can't grow again for about a year...or so.

What would you do?

Grow them out and harvest as normal and just deal with the seeds?

Cut them now at 30 days into flower and end up with a few oz of totally unripe hermi sensi?

Wait a week or two (day 37 to 44) to let them pack on some weight but still cut early? (65 day strain)

My reservations would be that the pollen and nanners may make the bud taste like crap and smoke like crap. And if cut in a couple weeks, the buds will be filled with half developed seeds.

Your thoughts?
Pick them off & hope for the best
.:peace:
 

oldfogey420

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When I say calyxes and nanners growing in near equal amounts, that's no joke. It would take many hours to pluck them. There are hundreds at this point. We're talking a mom that vegged and trained down for two months or so, and takes up about 2.5 x 2.5 ft area, and ten of her clones that vegged for 3 weeks or so, and three more clones that went in to flower immediately after showing roots at the bottom of a small solo cup and being tansplanted into 4x4x6 containers.

Chunky-stool.. why would I troll with a question about hermies? Go pack another bowl and think on how much sense your troll coment didnt make. I joined here because it seems like a busy enough place with well established growers and felt this place is better than my old haunt to ask this particular question. Did I claim something astronomical, unbelievable, impossible? Nope I just asked a question to which i hoped to gain other growers' insight. I didn't come to pretend to be someone I'm not or claim something unbelievable. I sir, am not trolling. I'm asking for people's opinions on a topic that there isn't much info about, since most of us would cull the hermi to save the rest of the crop. That's just not necessarily the best option considering the circumstances. Or it may be. I really don't know and that's why I'm here. Perhaps I can join you under your bridge one day so you can teach me all about trolling.

Good day..
 

Chunky Stool

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When I say calyxes and nanners growing in near equal amounts, that's no joke. It would take many hours to pluck them. There are hundreds at this point. We're talking a mom that vegged and trained down for two months or so, and takes up about 2.5 x 2.5 ft area, and ten of her clones that vegged for 3 weeks or so, and three more clones that went in to flower immediately after showing roots at the bottom of a small solo cup and being tansplanted into 4x4x6 containers.

Chunky-stool.. why would I troll with a question about hermies? Go pack another bowl and think on how much sense your troll coment didnt make. I joined here because it seems like a busy enough place with well established growers and felt this place is better than my old haunt to ask this particular question. Did I claim something astronomical, unbelievable, impossible? Nope I just asked a question to which i hoped to gain other growers' insight. I didn't come to pretend to be someone I'm not or claim something unbelievable. I sir, am not trolling. I'm asking for people's opinions on a topic that there isn't much info about, since most of us would cull the hermi to save the rest of the crop. That's just not necessarily the best option considering the circumstances. Or it may be. I really don't know and that's why I'm here. Perhaps I can join you under your bridge one day so you can teach me all about trolling.

Good day..
blah blah says the troll
Where are the pics, dumbass?
 

oldfogey420

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Oh, and I don't need to prove to you or anyone, anything by posting pics. What we write is incriminating enough. What we show takes it to a whole new level. It's my perogative to not post em and I don't need you to believe anything.
 

CaliSmokes

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I'd cut my loses. Try to make some crappy edibles, you'll just end up with seeded buds if you finish it. Kind of hard to believe you been growing for years and have a room dialed in, yet managed to get a room full of hermied buds...
 

oldfogey420

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All I'm here for are opinions on this topic. Thus far one person says to pick em off as they come. The other person has nothing useful to add and wants to start shit with a new member because he doesn't believe a new member to a forum could possibly have.... what the ability to grow a plant? Just move on if you don't believe..I really don't care.
 
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Chunky Stool

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All I'm here for are opinions on this topic. Thus far you one person says to pick em off as they come. The other person has nothing useful to add and wants to start shit with a new member because he doesn't believe a new member to a forum could possibly have.... what the ability to grow a plant? Just move on if you don't believe..I really don't care.
Nice strawman you retarded fuck.
 

oldfogey420

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I'd cut my loses. Try to make some crappy edibles, you'll just end up with seeded buds if you finish it. Kind of hard to believe you been growing for years and have a room dialed in, yet managed to get a room full of hermied buds...
Perhaps hard to believe. The seeds I grew out were rogue seeds found in sacks that I've bought over the past few months. Two males and one female, hence big mom and a bunch of clones to fill out the space. I don't know the genetics, but I'm inclined to think the seeds may have been from a plant throwing a banana here and there, and supposedly these are likely more prone to hermi than "normal" seeds. There were also a few changes this go round. A tent instead of my usual plywood space, different nutrients, and God awful hard water that comes out of the tap @ 8.0 pH. I really don't know the cause. They weren't stressed. I can't find any light leaks. The only negative I can see is it gets to be like 65 during lights off while 80 to 85 when on. That's a fairly big swing.
 

oldfogey420

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if you can't grow for a year that answers your question. pick what you can off for the next month and let them finish. picking seeds out of cannabis isn't as bad as not having any cannabis. good luck.
This is kind of what I want to do. My biggest concern is of the few threads I've found where people smoked bud as badly hermied as this, they said the outcome was awful. They blamed the pollen. Has anyone ever had experience smoking hermies, pollen, etc?
 

Orlando737

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When I say calyxes and nanners growing in near equal amounts, that's no joke. It would take many hours to pluck them. There are hundreds at this point. We're talking a mom that vegged and trained down for two months or so, and takes up about 2.5 x 2.5 ft area, and ten of her clones that vegged for 3 weeks or so, and three more clones that went in to flower immediately after showing roots at the bottom of a small solo cup and being tansplanted into 4x4x6 containers.

Chunky-stool.. why would I troll with a question about hermies? Go pack another bowl and think on how much sense your troll coment didnt make. I joined here because it seems like a busy enough place with well established growers and felt this place is better than my old haunt to ask this particular question. Did I claim something astronomical, unbelievable, impossible? Nope I just asked a question to which i hoped to gain other growers' insight. I didn't come to pretend to be someone I'm not or claim something unbelievable. I sir, am not trolling. I'm asking for people's opinions on a topic that there isn't much info about, since most of us would cull the hermi to save the rest of the crop. That's just not necessarily the best option considering the circumstances. Or it may be. I really don't know and that's why I'm here. Perhaps I can join you under your bridge one day so you can teach me all about trolling.

Good day..
I wouldn't take Chunky Stools reply personally, rather its a welcome to RIU.. :smile:
:peace:
 

Orlando737

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Perhaps hard to believe. The seeds I grew out were rogue seeds found in sacks that I've bought over the past few months. Two males and one female, hence big mom and a bunch of clones to fill out the space. I don't know the genetics, but I'm inclined to think the seeds may have been from a plant throwing a banana here and there, and supposedly these are likely more prone to hermi than "normal" seeds. There were also a few changes this go round. A tent instead of my usual plywood space, different nutrients, and God awful hard water that comes out of the tap @ 8.0 pH. I really don't know the cause. They weren't stressed. I can't find any light leaks. The only negative I can see is it gets to be like 65 during lights off while 80 to 85 when on. That's a fairly big swing.
I've herd hermi plants chuck out hermi-prone seeds and so on. Did you stress your plants in anyway.?
:peace:
 

KryptoBud

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This is kind of what I want to do. My biggest concern is of the few threads I've found where people smoked bud as badly hermied as this, they said the outcome was awful. They blamed the pollen. Has anyone ever had experience smoking hermies, pollen, etc?
I'd bet most people over 30 and don't live on the west coast have smoked lots of seeded compressed mexican brick weed. It's not the best but fuck it what are gonna do? Pick off what you can, lesson learned next time make sure the "mother" isn't the caitlyn jenner type. I've always felt bud with seed is better than no bud at all. Enjoy
 

oldfogey420

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They didn't like being flushed with ff sledgehammer at all. The flush was 5 days before switching to 12/12. Aside from that I fed them about 25% stronger in their last feeding about a week ago. But that isn't anything different than normal for me. I always give them a boost as stretch come to a halt. And they explode! This time they exploded with a little more than I bargained for.
 

oldfogey420

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To explain the pics...and the grow, momma is the back left, everything else is clones of momma. Directly in front of her, closest to the camera is a young clone, there's 2 other young clones along the middle of the right side wall...with these I paintbrush pollenated the bottom buds with the two male plants that I had pulled before starting flower. All the other clones (10)which vegged for 3 weeks fill up the rest of the tent. Some I left alone to grow a single cola, and the ones that grew faster than the others, I topped before flower and they have anywhere from 4 to 8 tops each and a few lower branches. Lots of supercropping to try and keep a relatively even canopy. Momma is tied and bound like 50 shades of green but I can't get a pic of all that until she's in there all alone. I don't even take her out anymore, too damned heavy and barely gets through the door. She has 30 to 40 tops at the canopy

You can only see some of my lighting... I've got two dual 24" t5 fixtures along the sides. In the middle is the 600 w hps and then behind that along the back wall is 150w hps.

I have a 6"vortex fan pulling air through a scrubber at the top of the tent pushing that air through my 600w hps hood and out of the tent.

Passive intake down low, just below the canopy, so cool air runs through and comes up through the jungle.

Humidity never over 40%. Temps rarely break 85, and never lower than 65.

No light leaks

PH always set to 6-6.5, whether just water or feeding.

I tried out fox farms this time as I heard good things about it leading to tasty nugs. Grow big and big bloom during veg. Tiger bloom and big bloom during flower. Kelp me kelp u, microbe brew, botanicare liquid karma, calmag, during both veg and flower, and sweet starting at onset of 12/12.

Think that's about everything...
 
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