DIY with Quantum Boards

[goofy81]

shorter internods fuck me 3000k produces them that tight its insane. no need for 4k at all.
Take a look http://rollitup.org/t/quantum-boards-across-the-pond-in-the-uk.935279/

I've also noticed I don't get any stretch on 3k. Sounds like half the people who preach 4k-5k are just sheep who been reading about mh/hps too much.
I'm one of the guys here who actually try to get stretch! I even dim each cob @ 25 watts and there's still not enough stretch for my liking (compared to up a).
The question that needs to be answered is,
Do you even gro bro?

 

[420Barista]

I have been following Zypheruk's Grow Entitled http://rollitup.org/t/quantum-boards-across-the-pond-in-the-uk.935279/

so goofy81 check it out and answer your own question.

 

[BobCajun]

I've also noticed I don't get any stretch on 3k. Sounds like half the people who preach 4k-5k are just sheep who been reading about mh/hps too much.
I'm one of the guys here who actually try to get stretch! I even dim each cob @ 25 watts and there's still not enough stretch for my liking (compared to up a).
The question that needs to be answered is,
Do you even gro bro?

Need far red. Just 5 minutes at lights out will do it. They use that to lengthen the stems of Chrysanthemums. Not particularly easy to get a FR source though, aside from incandescent black light bulbs.

 

[captainmorgan]

I've used 730 nm after lights out to encourage stretch and it seems to work for me.

 

[Budzbuddha]

Some innovative some imitate.

Fucking ANDROID boards ....

 

[ttystikk]

I've also noticed I don't get any stretch on 3k. Sounds like half the people who preach 4k-5k are just sheep who been reading about mh/hps too much.
I'm one of the guys here who actually try to get stretch! I even dim each cob @ 25 watts and there's still not enough stretch for my liking (compared to up a).
The question that needs to be answered is,
Do you even gro bro?

I'm getting stretch with the razor bars. I know they aren't the actual quantum boards but the tech is similar, as is the spectrum output, 3000K in my case.

 

[Growmau5]

I've got nearly $2000 invested in QBs. If a problem arises I know that I can reach someone at HLG. It will be interesting to see when/if these "other" boards start delaminating or random diodes burn out due to shotty reflow.... how many people will be stuck out the cold.
"sorry the number you have dialed is no longer in service"

 

[ChaosHunter]

I've got nearly $2000 invested in QBs. If a problem arises I know that I can reach someone at HLG. It will be interesting to see when/if these "other" boards start delaminating or random diodes burn out due to shotty reflow.... how many people will be stuck out the cold.
"sorry the number you have dialed is no longer in service"

Knowing how people like to bash any LED I'm sure they will try to point the finger at HLG QBs. As I've stated before HLG could have built a stand alone light with these and sold them as such. The fact that they introduced them to us in a DIY fashion at a fraction of the cost is unheard of today. As an early QB customer thank you gents !

 

[pop22]

While your at it then, show us a board that will match the QB and at a lower price.......... I haven't found one!

I really didn't want to crash this fine thread, but all the people crying about board availability are just bugging the hell out of me. As nice as it is, the QB board is not magical, and there are many similar alternatives that are very effective for our purpose and actually cost less money. It's fine if you want to wait in line for a product that you could buy somewhere else for cheaper (a very similar alternative), but moaning about it is kinda taking the piss.

 

[OLD MOTHER SATIVA]

steph

perhaps you should have pm'd me before you posted info online..i am just a hobby guy

i started with linear strips like you..i like the strips better

in the end i would have been much more receptive to changing something

the board is thicker..i will not use those wagos that way..and those were just

samples..


i sent only a request to factory

when i saw you were taking orders for units that were not near made

i did inquire further

all the best..i have no problem changing things,,but you posting a name does not make me want to refrain..

like maybe a pm would have..

i have never even seen one of your boards and the factory already had one similar

 

[MrTwist1]

While your at it then, show us a board that will match the QB and at a lower price.......... I haven't found one!

Like I said... there are very similar alternatives that grow plants very well. If you absolutely have to wait for the current highest listed chip to be in stock then that is totally your prerogative... but please do not cry on here and lambast the creators. They are doing their best and did not predict that everyone here would get quite so giddy about their board.

 

[pop22]

ohh I agree, you may get similar results. But yep, i'm one who waited ( and got lucky ) to get QBs. And my thoughts are/were the reverse of yours, why buy last gen when the most current is available. I may pay more, but I'm doing DIY not buying a commercial light, so getting the best, most current I can afford makes sense. In 6 months, maybe the price will go down a bit, more competition, etc. But I need them NOW not in 6 months or a year. Yep, I'll wait a month to get them. And then I'm good for at least a couple years, I have no desire, nor the money to upgrade constantly. These boards and the knowledge I've gained here has reduced my power consumption by nearly 1kwh per hour, not an insubstantial reduction and the reduced airconditioning demands ad even more savings. Could I have gotten similar cheaper? yep. could I have gotten AS GOOD though? I doubt it and why hunt when something this good is right here where all can see the product and the effectiveness in action?

Like I said... there are very similar alternatives that grow plants very well. If you absolutely have to wait for the current highest listed chip to be in stock then that is totally your prerogative... but please do not cry on here and lambast the creators. They are doing their best and did not predict that everyone here would get quite so giddy about their board.

 

[caretak3r]

steph

perhaps you should have pm'd me before you posted info online..i am just a hobby guy

i started with linear strips like you..i like the strips better

in the end i would have been much more receptive to changing something

the board is thicker..i will not use those wagos that way..and those were just

samples..


i sent only a request to factory

when i saw you were taking orders for units that were not near made

i did inquire further

all the best..i have no problem changing things,,but you posting a name does not make me want to refrain..

like maybe a pm would have..

i have never even seen one of your boards and the factory already had one similar

I don't really have a horse in this race, except to say that the LED section is the only reason I frequent this site and I'd hate to see this part of the community fall apart. So, I'll throw out what I know because it is possible @OLD MOTHER SATIVA is telling some truth in this post. After QBs came out, I went hunting on Alibaba and actually found that the HLG supplier/factory had posted their EXACT board (with HLG logo) as a product for sale to the public. I talked to the factory rep and got pricing (minimum order was 8 boards and price wasn't much lower than HLG at that quantity). I then came here and posted about it at some point, saying that their price was more than fair but refrained from posting the actual factory details. I wish all the best to HLG, I ordered a QB myself for myself and can attest to their swift shipping and great customer service. I also know that with success comes competition; especially in this case with such a low barrier of entry.

 

[MrTwist1]

ohh I agree, you may get similar results. But yep, i'm one who waited ( and got lucky ) to get QBs. And my thoughts are/were the reverse of yours, why buy last gen when the most current is available. I may pay more, but I'm doing DIY not buying a commercial light, so getting the best, most current I can afford makes sense. In 6 months, maybe the price will go down a bit, more competition, etc. But I need them NOW not in 6 months or a year. Yep, I'll wait a month to get them. And then I'm good for at least a couple years, I have no desire, nor the money to upgrade constantly. These boards and the knowledge I've gained here has reduced my power consumption by nearly 1kwh per hour, not an insubstantial reduction and the reduced airconditioning demands ad even more savings. Could I have gotten similar cheaper? yep. could I have gotten AS GOOD though? I doubt it and why hunt when something this good is right here where all can see the product and the effectiveness in action?

Carry on brother. I totally hear your point and I would do the same. What I would not do is moan about missing out on stock and having to wait for the next batch whilst there are other great alternatives that have been available for a while now. It's all good. I know there is lots of hype here. I was just trying to point out that there's more than one way to skin a cat, and these guys are doing their best to meet demand so let's not be assholes to them. cheers

 

[goodro wilson]

So I only really paid attention to the qb304 but ended up buying four qb288
I'm not positive but I think I wire them in series on the driver I got
Hlg 320h-54 is that correct?
Forgive my lack of diy knowledge is series like this

 

[Shugglet]

If one thing is clear, people here may be good at growing, but they seem to not know a damn thing about the realities of the business world. lol Live and learn.

 

[ChefKimbo]

If one thing is clear, people here may be good at growing, but they seem to not know a damn thing about the realities of the business world. lol Live and learn.

Nah, there is no mandate that in every corner of the business world and message boards that there is some acceptable level of sleaziness. That's bullshit. People who think like that just aren't enough to not get taken advantage of so they perpetuate the bullshit and make statements like the above. Bullshit.

 

[OLD MOTHER SATIVA]

I don't really have a horse in this race, except to say that the LED section is the only reason I frequent this site and I'd hate to see this part of the community fall apart. So, I'll throw out what I know because it is possible @OLD MOTHER SATIVA is telling some truth in this post. After QBs came out, I went hunting on Alibaba and actually found that the HLG supplier/factory had posted their EXACT board (with HLG logo) as a product for sale to the public. I talked to the factory rep and got pricing (minimum order was 8 boards and price wasn't much lower than HLG at that quantity). I then came here and posted about it at some point, saying that their price was more than fair but refrained from posting the actual factory details. I wish all the best to HLG, I ordered a QB myself for myself and can attest to their swift shipping and great customer service. I also know that with success comes competition; especially in this case with such a low barrier of entry.

yes i ordered 25 test boards..and yes the "QB"was already there in the photo..no i do not own a QB

i will probably modify the design..not that it really is ANY different than what is out there already

BUT i would never take long advance orders for stuff i didn't even have the diodes for

that said: I am getting 561c s6 leds put in a new design to get some boards..

i am making 1170 mm strips too..i like them better personally..and my board is thicker..

The boards are beautiful , the extra aluminum thickness helps

i just saw that the Estonian linear strips were working well..and decided to make board

found one i china basically just like it..and figured i can maybe sell wholesale too..

i can get them made in15 days[ with the s6 packaging] ..China is different now

they can make great stuff because virtually everything is made there now

this is not proprietary stuff,too bad there is such along wait for QB's..

it is humourous that everyone could jump everyones COB ideas

but this basically generic board is revered as proprietary genius

i was going to change the design next run ..but this run will do fine

the same style board has been uploaded here a few weeks ago from IG

figured you knew that the same design was already made by someone before me

and probably you too...


after you whined about GG picking on you..about your cob panels..like you "invented "anything

i just said. to myself...i will make my own

Steph ..printing alibaba requests on a forum is much sleazier than "copying"the same board i

ended up finding with another factory..

again :i will change it because thats the way i am..

 

[CobKits]

Not to be a downer but aren't the QB and similar boards essentially the same as Samsung inFlux linear strips but in a squarer shape? It's right about the same wattage as 2 or 3 of the 66w strips. I guess you use different material for the boards though, so that's a difference there, but does that even make that much difference? I doubt if many people would even have thought of the linear strips if they hadn't heard about the QBs though.

people been talking strips for a long time, they just werent super cost effective at the time

 

[captainmorgan]

Another business man with the ethics of a lawyer,just what the world needs.