Christianity, Homosexuality, and the New Covenant

PCXV

PCXV

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Where did you get that explanation OP? Denomination? It doesn't seem like too much a stretch from the doctrines.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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There is no such thing as sin. Everything in existence is a facet of God. Everything with a consciousness is a facet of God experiencing itself subjectively. You should look into Nondualism. Something like Advaita or Buddhism. That's what the truth is, and what your Christ was teaching.

The point of life is to realize that you are God, balance your karmic debt, and achieve Moksha/Nirvana, releasing yourself from Samsara.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Green Bud Smurfy said:
Many people in favor of gay marriage claim that homosexuality is not addressed directly by Jesus in the New Testament. So why is it still a sin? If you have never read the Bible, here is an explanation:

The Old Testament has many "contracts" with man. These are known as covenants. Some are permanent, but others are listed as temporary. It's the Old Covenant in the Old Testament that was fulfilled by Jesus in the New Testament. The Old Covenant consists of the civil/ceremonial laws of the Jews. However, civil/ceremonial laws are very different from the moral laws in the Old Testament.

Examples of the civil or ceremonial laws might include this: Things like sacrificing lambs on Passover, it means they can't be eating pork or shellfish. Most of these civil or ceremonial laws are in the book of Exodus and Leviticus.

It is the moral laws, such as the 10 commandments and all other moral laws throughout the Old Testament that are still very, very, very intact to this day. These moral laws include murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.

So, The reason why homosexuality in the Bible is still a sin is because the moral laws are still intact from the Old Testament. In addition to just the Old Testament, Jesus and Peter also preached against sexual immorality as a whole. Notice the root word of immorality is moral. That means that nothing I said is being taken out of context to support a messed-up "narrative".
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Explain why homosexuality is immoral so I have a reason before punching you in the throat.

"Cast the first stone," as it were.
 
Green Bud Smurfy

Green Bud Smurfy

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Olive Drab Green said:
There is no such thing as sin. Everything in existence is a facet of God. Everything with a consciousness is a facet of God experiencing itself subjectively. You should look into Nondualism. Something like Advaita or Buddhism. That's what the truth is, and what your Christ was teaching.

The point of life is to realize that you are God, balance your karmic debt, and achieve Moksha/Nirvana, releasing yourself from Samsara.
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Christ didn't teach nondualism. That's Buddhism as what you were saying..

Christ taught that God was the only way to heaven through Christ. Man is inherently evil and is wired to rebel against God since the fall of man in Genesis. Therfore, since God is only good and holy, and man is not, we are not God. Can you cite any Biblical evidence otherwise?
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Green Bud Smurfy said:
Christ didn't teach nondualism. He taught that God was the only way to heaven through Christ. Man is inherently evil and is wired to rebel against God since the fall of man in Genesis. Therfore, since God is only good and holy, and man is not, we are not God. Can you cite any Biblical evidence otherwise?
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You do realize most of the Bible was stolen directly from the Upanishads, Quran, and the Torah, right?

Another inbred Christian devotee. So sad.
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Green Bud Smurfy said:
That gay stuff is revolting and annoying. Do you have anything better to do?
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You know what's revolting and annoying? A self-righteous Christian reinterpreting his own doctrine and completely missing the point that we were all intended to love each other and not judge and condemn each other. You are a piss poor Christian by the standard of your own religion and should kill yourself.
 
Big_Lou

Big_Lou

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Green Bud Smurfy said:
Yes, I have pics! They're on my other thread. It's the only other thread I've made on here.
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Green Bud Smurfy said:
Christ didn't teach nondualism. That's Buddhism as what you were saying..

Christ taught that God was the only way to heaven through Christ. Man is inherently evil and is wired to rebel against God since the fall of man in Genesis. Therfore, since God is only good and holy, and man is not, we are not God. Can you cite any Biblical evidence otherwise?
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Green Bud Smurfy said:
That gay stuff is revolting and annoying. Do you have anything better to do?
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Thank you for continuing to post.
 
Green Bud Smurfy

Green Bud Smurfy

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Olive Drab Green said:
You do realize most of the Bible was stolen directly from the Upanishads, Quran, and the Torah, right?

Another inbred Christian devotee. So sad.
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Are you serious? Quran wasn't written until 100's of years AFTER the Bible.

Torah is the Old Testament, and an essential part of Christianity. Duhh

Upanishads? Can you show me where exactly?
 
Big_Lou

Big_Lou

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Olive Drab Green said:
You do realize most of the Bible was stolen directly from the Upanishads, Quran, and the Torah, right?

Another inbred Christian devotee. So sad.
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Olive Drab Green said:
You know what's revolting and annoying? A self-righteous Christian reinterpreting his own doctrine and completely missing the point that we were all intended to love each other and not judge and condemn each other.
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Shhhh, shhhhh....don't scare the kid away....I'm trying to get some action here ffs...
 
Green Bud Smurfy

Green Bud Smurfy

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Olive Drab Green said:
You know what's revolting and annoying? A self-righteous Christian reinterpreting his own doctrine and completely missing the point that we were all intended to love each other and not judge and condemn each other.
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Don't hate the person, hate the sin!

Just because I disagree with homosexuality doesn't mean I hate gay people. That's you shoving words in my mouth
 
Olive Drab Green

Olive Drab Green

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Green Bud Smurfy said:
Are you serious? Quran wasn't written until 100's of years AFTER the Bible.

Torah is the Old Testament, and an essential part of Christianity. Duhh

Upanishads? Can you show me where exactly?
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How about you read them yourself? I can't educate an invalid.

I'll admit wrong on the Quran thing, though. Fair. The rest is true.
 
Huckster79

Huckster79

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The only real sins is hate or malice as i see it.... love is love no matter whom its between. I used to be ultra conservative on this topic, then was befriended by a homosexual couple in a dark chapter of my life, i dont know how i wudda got through that year or two without em. And in begining i liked them as people but disagreed with their lifestyle (we called it love the sinner hate the sin) but as i got to know them and seen how genuine their love and care was for the other i came to realize love that genuine and sincere could not be "bad". No Loving Creator could frown on that, and i was a changed man.

I even received the honor of "officiating" their commitment ceremony before marriage was made legal for them. I proudly held that well worn bible in my hand while doing it, the one that in immaturity I had thought was a list of rules and regs before i understood it as one of many sacred books people use to relate to the Almighty reguardless of the name they refer to Her as. Now i understand it as a story over time of peoples evolving understanding of God. We must remember the story didnt stop 2000 years ago, the story continues.

Dont sweat the details, love people...
 
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