prices are good if you look around. and getting better,
Gavita's went up $40 wholesale
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realmeduser
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is a 1000 watt DE actually 2000 watts?
torontoke
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No I doubt it but I meant why use 1000watts at all.
With the newest led you could light the same area using half the power.
Dr.Nick Riviera
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scott's is NOT monsanto, they have some kind of arrangement with the round up, but they are not the same company.
CannaReview
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They might be business partners with Scotts being Monsanto exclusive distributor but I have yet to have anyone show me Monsanto owns any shares/percentage in Scotts.
GrowRock
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Go to Wikipedia and look up Scott's mergers and look at 1998 and 1999
CannaReview
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All I see is
1998 - Scotts entered into a collaboration with the Monsanto Company to apply biotechnology products to the turfgrass and ornamental plants business. Under the agreement, Scotts and Monsanto agreed to share technologies, including Monsanto's extensive genetic library of plant traits and Scotts' proprietary gene gun technology to produce transgenic turfgrasses and ornamental plants.
1999 - Entering into the pesticide industry, Scotts completed agreements with Monsanto Company for exclusive U.S., Canada, U.K., France, Germany, and Australia agency and marketing rights to Monsanto's consumer Roundup herbicide products and for the purchase of the Ortho and related lawn and garden businesses.
No where does it say Monsanto has any shares/% ownership of Scotts and there for owns GH, Botanicare and Gavita. The thing is if you're worrying about Monsanto you wouldn't be using 95% of what is in the hydro industry with the connections and histories with most of the companies. Hell you wouldn't be using any lights as they're all made in China by companies that pay slave wages and pollute the environment.
chex1111
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ST. LOUIS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Monsanto Company (NYSE: MON) and The Scotts Miracle-Gro Company (NYSE: SMG), the leading marketer of branded consumer lawn and garden products, today announced the two companies have extended their nearly two-decade long partnership in the lawn and garden consumer market.
Since 1999, Scotts Miracle-Gro, through one of its subsidiaries, has served as Monsanto's exclusive agent for the marketing and distribution of Roundup® non-selective herbicides in the consumer lawn and garden market within the United States and select international markets. Today’s agreement will unlock additional value in the Roundup brand in the lawn and garden segment by providing Scotts with an extended license to use the Roundup brand in new lawn and garden product categories and broaden their marketing rights into new geographies.
As part of the extension, Monsanto also renewed and expanded the terms of its marketing agreement with Scotts and provided preferred access to Monsanto’s R&D pipeline for lawn and garden.
“This agreement highlights the value of the Roundup brand and extends the relationship with a long-term, trusted partner,” said Kerry Preete, Monsanto Executive Vice President of Global Strategy. “It also further demonstrates our commitment to our broad licensing strategy. Monsanto looks forward to the continued partnership with Scotts as we work to deliver consumers with a diverse range of lawn and garden solutions.”
Under the agreement, Scotts will pay Monsanto a one-time upfront payment of $300 million in exchange for a Roundup® brand license, extended agency agreement and technology agreement.
chex1111
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Scott’s Miracle-Gro has looked to capitalize on the expanding pot industry in states where the plant has been legalized or decriminalized. The company’s CEO, Jim Hagadorn, stated his intentions to spend up to $500 million to completely buy out the marijuana industry.
A Scott’s Miracle-Gro front group has already purchased General Hydroponics, Botanicare and Gavita.
“Major hydroponics nutrients, lighting, soil, and other grow equipment manufacturers report they’ve also been offered takeover bids by Scotts Miracle-Gro or its ‘Hawthorne’ front company.
http://www.defenddemocracy.press/all-signs-point-to-a-corporate-takeover-of-the-marijuana-industry-by-bayer-monsanto/
A Scott’s Miracle-Gro front group has already purchased General Hydroponics, Botanicare and Gavita.
“Major hydroponics nutrients, lighting, soil, and other grow equipment manufacturers report they’ve also been offered takeover bids by Scotts Miracle-Gro or its ‘Hawthorne’ front company.
http://www.defenddemocracy.press/all-signs-point-to-a-corporate-takeover-of-the-marijuana-industry-by-bayer-monsanto/
chex1111
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Following months of negotiations and various offers, Germany-based Bayer has finally sealed the deal with Monsanto, purchasing the seed giant for $66 billion. The merger is reported to be the largest all-cash deal on record.
The purchase means a lot of things, and none of them good for consumers. For one, it strengthens the monopolization of the world’s food supply. It also means more genetically modified organisms (GMOs) and chemicals to be doused on them.
Now, some are predicting the merge could also mean the takeover of the marijuana industry. Monsanto has an intimate business relationship with Scotts Miracle-Gro
The purchase means a lot of things, and none of them good for consumers. For one, it strengthens the monopolization of the world’s food supply. It also means more genetically modified organisms (GMOs) and chemicals to be doused on them.
Now, some are predicting the merge could also mean the takeover of the marijuana industry. Monsanto has an intimate business relationship with Scotts Miracle-Gro
GrowRock
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I guess we agree to disagree lol I was going of the part that says completed an agreement for EXCLUSIVE marketing rights I would say that makes the companies related or why would one competing company just give its marketing rights up to another? Wouldn't be in business long if you gave away marketing rights
CannaReview
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Again no where does it say that Monsanto has any shares/owner ship in Scotts, they are two companies doing business with each other. So are you gonna stop buying fertilizers from companies that get it fro DOW or BASAF or any company that make hardcore pesticides or companies that use Chinese salts which is pretty much 100% of all nutrients manufacturers?
CalyxCrusher
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Clearly states they are business partners. NOT one company owned by the other. Seems a lot of folks dont comprehend how corporate deals work. Giving them exclusive marketing rights does NOT make one company owned by another. Its called a business deal between two partners. Also Scotts doesnt need Monsantos help to get into the legal grow market since they purchased General Hydroponics awhile back. Id say theyre already counting their money
GrowRock
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Check out govslaves.com Scott's lawn service is really Monsanto in disguise.
Really they are the same shit different pile of poison. They might not be the same company but they definitely are tied together
CalyxCrusher
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Yeah, as partners. As has been stated by other people and myself numerous times. Also, I don't adhere to the Alex Jones school of thought. Do you think that site has any credibility with a name like govslaves?
chex1111
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No direct ownership, no. Theres no need for that, they just do payouts for pieces of the company. Not exactly the same, no, but they are very closely tied together. Scott's may be bought by Bayer in the future. Bayer owns Monsanto. Scott's Hawthorne subsidiary owns Botanicare, GH, and Gavita.
Will I stop buying fertilizer from companies that get materials from DOW or BASF or any company that makes hardcore pesticides or companies that use Chinese salts, which is 100% of all nutrient manufacturers?
This soldier believes there is no correct answer to the question Sir!
thundergodfist
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Get (vermi)composting and
those greedy bastards! That's the best long-term solution for healh and wealth. Plus salt ferts are horrible for the environment. I see the appeal but the consequences to our healh and the environment's aren't worth it for me... minus this one time experiment with coco, holy shit are they ever growing fast!... but I feel like an asshole when I'm pouring out all this runoff down the drain, plus I know it won't have the same medicinal properties as a plant that was feeding on a natural diet.
CalyxCrusher
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Im all for organics, but unless theres evidence showing this is the case, it holds no truth
thundergodfist
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Well you're right, it doesn't hold any scientific truth... yet. Given the amount of research done on cannabis at this time, I doubt I'll be able to find studies specifically proving organic > salts... but there are several studies on food crops backing this up.
Here is a summary of some studies done:
"Organic Foods Contain Higher Levels of Certain Nutrients, Lower Levels of Pesticides, and May Provide Health Benefits for the Consumer "
http://www.altmedrev.com/publications/15/1/4.pdf
It'll be interesting to see what we discover when research is done on cannabis but until then I prefer my ganja au naturelle just like my food.
CalyxCrusher
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I totally agree, I prefer organic. But as stated, the science isnt there.