ttystikk
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You quibble in the best establishment tradition.
They LOST. In the case of the executive, they lost to a right wing populist who spent the entire campaign lying.
Meet the progressive that's going to hand Joe Manchin his ass in the Democratic primary; Paula Jean
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They LOST. In the case of the executive, they lost to a right wing populist who spent the entire campaign lying.
UncleBuck
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gaining seats is winning, not losing.
tangerinegreen555
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Yikes!
That's OK, I understand the need to compete in a tough election, and I know that he doesn't have to do anything special for donors.
I've donated money to local Democrats, I didn't ask for anything other than hinting growing/possessing weed should be decriminalized/legalized. (I didn't get that, I just hinted)
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You guys going to kick him out?
ttystikk
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I thought you said that candidates need to take the money to get elected?
How is it my fault/responsibility to enforce my beliefs on a party that is me nothing?
Seems to me that I'm not the hypocrite here.
UncleBuck
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you wouldn't be a hypocrite if you condemned your one and only "justice democrat" who takes more wall street money than anyone else in congress.
ttystikk
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I'm going with 'he took the money, so he's not really a Justice Democrat'.
If the organization lets him run on their name anyway, it will definitely damage their credibility.
UncleBuck
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ttystikk
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Then maybe I'm asking too much of America, to ask for a party or political organization that's not going to give in to corruption.
UncleBuck
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how is it corruption since he is pledged to be hard on wall street though? he takes their money then fucks them in the ass. his record proves it.
ttystikk
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Can you give me a link? I'd like to see that.
UncleBuck
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just google his name. he has a webpage and there will be several other pages about him too.
tangerinegreen555
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Well since campaign finance reform doesn't seem to be on the horizon, I wouldn't mind seeing candidates I like getting money.
The last candidate I donated to got crushed, because the republican had a huge budget.
He's currently in the house, keeping it tilted to the right, one of the ACA repeal votes. Nice fucking guy. More money could have stopped him. More TV commercials help.
Let me ask this. If some rich guy died and left the DNC $5 billion, would they win more seats?
Who wins without money these days under the current rules? You're complaint is donated big money buys influence. What if it didn't?
I think big money lobbying is worse. Campaign money is only for election cycles.
Padawanbater2
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If money did not buy political influence, there would be no problem with money in politics. The problem is that it does buy influence.
This is a fact that can't be denied, right? I give you $100K, you're going to take my call when the time comes, are you not?
Are we all in agreement that political donations buys political influence?
UncleBuck
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why is ro khanna such a foe of wall street if he takes more of their money than anyone else?
tangerinegreen555
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Power corrupts.
To a degree. Not everybody is crooked. And I believe less than 100% of all campaign contributions buy influence.
I think you believe every penny buys something and I just don't believe that.
Fogdog
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Would you please name those Democratic Congressmen who personally enrich themselves from corporate money and voted against Citizen's United repeal in 2014?
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Padawanbater2
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I'm going to have to do more research to confirm your claim. He founded the No PAC Caucus, JD have endorsed him who stipulate no corporate or Super PAC money. Every clip I've seen him speak is easy to assess his motivations.
UncleBuck
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agreed, i like his positions. i could care less that he takes a ton of wall street money. more power to him.
Padawanbater2
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Could you clarify what you mean? Why do you think people donate to political campaigns if not to receive something back? I don't believe there is anything inherently wrong with that. I just think it becomes wrong when one party can flood the voices of others with the amount of money they donate. That makes it an unfair process.