Bagseed grow almost 3 weeks into flower - How they look? Still okay to lollipop?

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cheeseofchud

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the biggest mistake i made learning was fussing too much

plants need temps of 68-78 degrees,good air exchange,water and food....just try and supply a good enviornment
 
Tom Henry Carter

Tom Henry Carter

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cheeseofchud said:
yes half,how big is your light,fan,growspace?
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600W HPS in 3'x3'x6' tent.
Unfortunately, my bitches are stretchy, and the only one I didn't top grew huge, so its main cola is like 16-18" from the light...
I have one 20cm fan blowing over the canopy, but I was supposed to have two blowing in the tent total, but it fried last week, and I've yet to replace it..
As for the rest, things are stable. The most recent problem I've had, aside from Cal/Mag def, is the humidity because it's been raining for like 5 days.

Edit: should flush water be supplemented with Epsom salts +60 ppm or...? I went out and got some today.
 
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JDMase

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ALong14U said:
Ok so. I'm going to be honest because I and everyone here wants you to grow better plants. I will also ask questions which are essential to any grow.
Good job on the pics. Good job on using bag seeds for growing the first time that way you don't waste money. Allwys include good pics for the best help.


1. You plants are over watered and have been for a long time. Also looks like possible nutrient lockout.

A. What soil are you using?
B. How often do you water?
C. When you water how much nutrients are you using. General Hydroponics is a good brand if used correct.
D. How much water comes out of the bottom of the pot when you water if in dirt or pro mix.?
E. What is the pH of the water of your run off?


2. Your plant is suffering from lack of light.
A. What type of light do you have.
B. How many watts is the light or lights your using?
C. How far away from the plant are said lights?
D. Can you move your light up and down to get as close to the plant as possible?

3. They also look they have weak stems from the stretching.

A. Do you have a hole open on the bottom of your tent open with a light proof seal to allow cold air in.
B. Do you have a hole on the top of your tent open to let hot air out obviously light proof.
C. Are there any fans assisting your airflow of your tent.
D. Do you have any fans blowing in them to circulate stale air and strengthen them for the long haul.?
E. Do you turn your plant so all top 18-24 inches is getting optimal light for there position.
F. What type of reflectors or is it an open ended bulb?


4. Is your tent light tight?
It looks like it may have been confused about wanting to flower or not.

A. When you got the tent did you stand inside with it all zipped up and all light off inside with the light in outside to make sure none entered the tent?
B. Did you put duct tape or some kind of light blocker over any part that zips that you don't use?
C. When you check for leaks make sure you sit in the tent for at least 30 mins. This gives your eyes time to adjust to the darkness and can see any leaks easily. Also after 30 mins put your hand 6 inches roughly from your face. If you can see it that is bad. If you can't that's perfect. As long as there is no lights from other sources getting in.

5. How long did you veg your plant for. I. E. How old is she?

A. From seed it will take longer. But even a rough guessing is ok.
B. Your plant needs to be all the same height. You want your buds to all get light not just the top one or a side branch.
C. There are plenty of techniques for this just search the site or reply to me.

6. What are your temperatures?

A. Keeping them constant and within 10 degrees no matter if the light is on or not, they will not stretch as much and will save that energy until it buds. So technically it won't uptake nutrients until it needs them or it gets locked out from to many.

7. What is your humidity?

5. Try and keep it between 40 and 60 percent during veg. And 35 to 50 during flower. This all depends on air movement and strain you have to fine tune it.

8. At least your giving it a shot and your not giving up. Keep growing and asking questions on this site or any other good one you like. Everything here is my opinion. I'm not telling you to do any of it. Every grow is deferent. Every growers style varies. Just try and figure out something that works well for you and don't give up.

You got this.! Nameste!
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Good advice man fancy taking a stroll over to "my first vert" thread and giving me some advice on a kings Kush ive got similar problems with? Thanks!
 
ALong14U

ALong14U

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Tom Henry Carter said:
Can the flush water be ~ 80 ppm? That is what comes out of my filtered tap.
I also have access to double filter (almost RO) water that reads 0 ppm and 7.3 pH with my instruments, but it would take me probably a day or more to get 60L of RO water for one 20L pot, not to mention it would certainly wear down the filter components (for which I do have replacements, but using that filter is a hassle no matter how you look at it).



Edit: yeah, I have quite a bit of perlite in my soil, too, plus the vermiculite to make it airy. So, I think I have pretty decent drainage, but I never water with 30% run-off, and I'm not sure about 20%. I have to water them today, probably. Hopefully, I will get to and I will be able to take the appropriate measurements.

Shit, they got the purple stem going... On the main stalk and on some/most fan leaves...
Yeah, go look at the last pictures I posted: examine the bushier looking pictures carefully (check out main stalk and fans especially), they are rocking that purple stripe/wholly purple.
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Like I said I use tap water......I don't even pH ingoing water anymore. Soil does a great job maintaining pH if you add lime.
So I think that you 80 ppm would be just fine. Doesn't matter what's going in as long as it's much lower than your usual feeding. Just look for the 400 to 450 range or even 250 coming out to know you got that salt out.
I also look for how clear the water ism it's dirty at first. Then it starts running clear at the end of the 3 or 5 gallons or whatever your running through.

Purple stem is an indication of calcium and mg not working well together or of I remember right could just be missing calcium.

Some people don't like using tap water because they either say they don't know what is in it or they want to control everything. Or some shit about flooded and chlorine. Which your plant interacts with anyways because things going on in the soil I won't get into. In my experience I have watered straight from the tap not even letting my water sit out for 24 hours. I never have shitty roots. Usually huge rootball nice white and clean. I think you said promix was your medium?

I don't think that's dirt. Never used it but its soilless right?
So some of this could differ a bit I'm not sure.
Is there a reason you don't use your tap water? Have you tested it? Like pH ppm? Hope this helps.
 
ALong14U

ALong14U

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JDMase said:
Good advice man fancy taking a stroll over to "my first vert" thread and giving me some advice on a kings Kush ive got similar problems with? Thanks!
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Sure I'll look soon. Some guys hating on me trying to help you guys.
 
ALong14U

ALong14U

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cheeseofchud said:
dont think.....know,and you are complicating things based on guessing,thats not good advise
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I told him to double check. I don't see you offering anything but bullshit comments. Why not offer some advice?

Everything I wrote works awesome for me and if I gave a shit I would look more into the cal mag problem but I'm pretty sure I'm dead on and it's the growers responsibility to take opinions with a grain of salt and research further before taking action. As I told him to do in the post.
My plants prove my methods work for me....
 
Tom Henry Carter

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ALong14U said:
I told him to double check. I don't see you offering anything but bullshit comments. Why not offer some advice?

Everything I wrote works awesome for me and if I gave a shit I would look more into the cal mag problem but I'm pretty sure I'm dead on and it's the growers responsibility to take opinions with a grain of salt and research further before taking action. As I told him to do in the post.
My plants prove my methods work for me....
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cheeseofchud said:
yes,you are just resetting your feeding by flushing.....so if its over/underfed,nute locked etc flushing will correct all these
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Hey y'all, something I had not realized: I got mad roots coming out the bottom of my smart pots. How does this change things?
 
Tom Henry Carter

Tom Henry Carter

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ALong14U said:
I told him to double check. I don't see you offering anything but bullshit comments. Why not offer some advice?

Everything I wrote works awesome for me and if I gave a shit I would look more into the cal mag problem but I'm pretty sure I'm dead on and it's the growers responsibility to take opinions with a grain of salt and research further before taking action. As I told him to do in the post.
My plants prove my methods work for me....
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cheeseofchud said:
flush with ph'd water,feed at 2/3rds soil nutes...half for hydro nutes.....and dont water again till they need it
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Need a touch more info. Vegging? Flower? Fill up a kiddie pool with dirt put all yet plants in it.
Nameste
 
Tom Henry Carter

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ALong14U said:
Like I said I use tap water......I don't even pH ingoing water anymore. Soil does a great job maintaining pH if you add lime.
So I think that you 80 ppm would be just fine. Doesn't matter what's going in as long as it's much lower than your usual feeding. Just look for the 400 to 450 range or even 250 coming out to know you got that salt out.
I also look for how clear the water ism it's dirty at first. Then it starts running clear at the end of the 3 or 5 gallons or whatever your running through.

Purple stem is an indication of calcium and mg not working well together or of I remember right could just be missing calcium.

Some people don't like using tap water because they either say they don't know what is in it or they want to control everything. Or some shit about flooded and chlorine. Which your plant interacts with anyways because things going on in the soil I won't get into. In my experience I have watered straight from the tap not even letting my water sit out for 24 hours. I never have shitty roots. Usually huge rootball nice white and clean. I think you said promix was your medium?

I don't think that's dirt. Never used it but its soilless right?
So some of this could differ a bit I'm not sure.
Is there a reason you don't use your tap water? Have you tested it? Like pH ppm? Hope this helps.
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I don't use my regular tap water (unfiltered) because I don't trust my building's pipes (old building). The ppm of regular tap is about 150-170, pH is also lower. The plants drink what I drink.
 
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