Vert(600+400) 5 plant, from Ukraine with love

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ANC

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Sorry for not getting back yet, busy schedule these last two days.
I did take (bad) pictures for you yesterday. Will post when I get back today... Horse riding time for my daughter... or more just pointing at them, she is scared of large animals.
The plants decided to grow massively overnight and the leaf is now a full leaf. I measured the cotyledons, at 3cm from tip to tip, curled as they are on the plant. Normally is between 20 and 25mm, and much thinner.


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Sedan

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yep i know about that they are too starchy
because i didn't clean the leaves for about 1 month
thats why thay got like that
i cleaned them 2 weeks before flowering and 2 weeks after flowering
so those 4 weeks had a lot of impact
ill fix it next grow
Look, I'll show you:

This is my first experience on vert, two years ago. Lamp Chinese 2X400 one spectrum. I did not cut off the leaves at all !!

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This is the third time on the vert. A year ago. Lamp "Philips" greenpowers 600 and "Osram" plantastar. Leaves did not break off at all:

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Now you understand that cutting off leaves will not help you? Buy lamps from Phillips greenpowers, otherwise there will be fishing rods like on the first photo !!
 

Sedan

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Sorry for not getting back yet, busy schedule these last two days.
I did take (bad) pictures for you yesterday. Will post when I get back today... Horse riding time for my daughter... or more just pointing at them, she is scared of large animals.
The plants decided to grow massively overnight and the leaf is now a full leaf. I measured the cotyledons, at 3cm from tip to tip, curled as they are on the plant. Normally is between 20 and 25mm, and much thinner.


Be back later.

Bro, I do not understand without photos, especially in English))


How old is your daughter? I've never ridden a horse))), I'm afraid of her too)) A brave act! She herself wanted or did you advise?

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You're not the only one! While we are together, we will be long enough!

 
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Sedan

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@Sedan so many tops on each plant, how do you you make them all?


Continue: The next step, now the main thing is to make sure that the plants are located very tightly.

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Patiently wait until the branches fill the grid very tightly. We cut off weak branches!


The next stage: defoliation. In the video, this will be more visible:


Exactly my wife is engaged in this process! 1-2 times a week, depends on the power of light!


This method requires exceptionally persistent genetically varieties, if it is fem.



Now the most important thing: Shine!!
Philips Green Power
Osram Planstar
Sylvania Groulux

There are no better sodium lamps !!!


To be continued........
 

ANC

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I apologise for the delay. Tablet did not want to connect to PC until I tried USB ports on the back.
It is really a bad quality picture, but look at the size of the bottom leaves, that was 24 hours after germination, it grew the other two leaves between when I told you about it and took the photos, maybe another 12 hours. You can look at topic called ROOTS under general category of forum. for more info.

Both the normal plant bags and the ones with the foam liner and perforations had same results, so it is down to having the right nutrients available at the point of germination.
Observe no nute burns. I've been letting their bags get really dry for the past 48 hours, will be watering them just now before they go into shock, but I suspect their roots are already covering most of the bag. Will make new larger bags tomorrow.

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ANC

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What is the diameter of the platform all stands on and the size of the hole in the centre?

Here is my guess of it, more or less. Observe line down the centre, if the circle is cut down the line, and you put a hinge on one side, it can open like a book., now you can do 4 plants, 25 % more yield

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Sedan

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I apologise for the delay. Tablet did not want to connect to PC until I tried USB ports on the back.
It is really a bad quality picture, but look at the size of the bottom leaves, that was 24 hours after germination, it grew the other two leaves between when I told you about it and took the photos, maybe another 12 hours. You can look at topic called ROOTS under general category of forum. for more info.

Both the normal plant bags and the ones with the foam liner and perforations had same results, so it is down to having the right nutrients available at the point of germination.
Observe no nute burns. I've been letting their bags get really dry for the past 48 hours, will be watering them just now before they go into shock, but I suspect their roots are already covering most of the bag. Will make new larger bags tomorrow.

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For 24 hours after germination, a very good result. Frankly, in my garden at this age, the plants are half as large! I was very interested in your technology! Unfortunately, I still do not understand English very well, only English spoken. Can you give a link, on the topic, I read there, I understand?

What is the diameter of the platform all stands on and the size of the hole in the centre?

Here is my guess of it, more or less. Observe line down the centre, if the circle is cut down the line, and you put a hinge on one side, it can open like a book., now you can do 4 plants, 25 % more yield

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You very correctly noted the dimensions on the drawing, and most importantly in the metric system !! Well done!! Very correct engineering solution, make like a book.

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Only half of each, if shed by water, weighs about 250 pounds. We need a very strong and heavy construction. It will take metal and electric welding. Most likely it will need to be ordered at the factory. I found an easier solution:

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I leave the opening not 1/4, but 1/8. In this opening I put the auto in the pot a little to pull out was not crowded. During the time when the main plants are ripe, I manage to grow 2-3 auto.



So the design is much easier, easier and can be assembled at home by almost anyone!
 

ANC

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I guess most of the weight would be from the soil you use.
I would use Hydro or aero with bare roots or coco mix, which makes the plants very light.
So it would be just a matter of draining the water first before moving it.

Otherwise, the frame could be made with square steel tube, with castor wheels under. So many people have welders in my street, I never even bothered buying one. I do enough favours to ask for one, now and again.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/roots.939464/
 

Sedan

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I guess most of the weight would be from the soil you use.
I would use Hydro or aero with bare roots or coco mix, which makes the plants very light.
So it would be just a matter of draining the water first before moving it.

Otherwise, the frame could be made with square steel tube, with castor wheels under. So many people have welders in my street, I never even bothered buying one. I do enough favours to ask for one, now and again.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/roots.939464/
I do not like hydroponics, Bro. The ventilation system and the temperature of the lamps (600 + 400), dries the soil for three days in full, the appetite of the plants is also very strong in this light! If you do not water for three days, the plants wither! If it's a coconut, I'll be scared to leave the plants even for a day! In the DWC, I can not adjust the temperature of the solution in this unit, that's for sure! Need extra equipment. I have already assembled a DWC installation for two plants, this is my next project. I'll do it in the winter, so it's not so hot. Air conditioning, I can not afford- it's expensive !!

Bro, I'm very ashamed to admit to you, I also have some welders neighbors))), and not only welders)), but they need money to pay))). And where to get them? I would have assembled the installation, would not have cured from the UFO))), would have given only this opportunity to me))

At us it is accepted so: a minimum of expenses-a maximum result !!


Thanks for the link!
 

ANC

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I am used to soil, but it can be soooo slow sometimes. I just don't like it indoors. Outdoors I can make the soil live.
Yes, I would use quite a large reservoir for the water, I have plenty of large aquariums, I breed fish as a hobby.
So going dry is not a problem, watering is automated by timers and pumps, I take my hat off for your clever watering system.

Is that a car radiator fan you use?
 

ttystikk

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@ttystikk
Yeah I'm reading your thread, sorry to hear about the crap you had, haven't gotten to the part with how it turned out. Real life reads better than books.
That part of the story has yet to be written, my friend.

But if they piss me off, I'm gonna switch careers and build the cockroaches from the End of the World.
 
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