We're officially out of the Paris Climate Accord

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fdd2blk

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dagwood45431 said:
I don't take advice from the stupid or the delusional and you're firing on both of those cylinders, but thanks anyway.


The old "I'm Too Bored to Reply Reply", eh? Classic!

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You seem to have fallen off topic and can't get me out of your head. Don't feel bad, it happens to the best of them.
 
ArcticGranite

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SneekyNinja said:
A Govt grant to cover the South facing roof of your house in solar panels and enough lithium batteries to run fully charged for 48+ hours.

No, more like the huge number of advances achieved from the Space Program, or ITER or the other countless projects that are unprofitable to start but revolutionise our world.
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Without any grant/tax break-how many years for roi on a home using 1500 kWh per month at $0.20 KWh utility price?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Justin-case said:
Funny, how you idiots claim to be pro life. But are perfectly willing to pollute our planet, killing millions annually.
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Obvious logical contradictions like this one convince me that the kind of people susceptible to 'conservative' thinking don't think through the consequences. They aren't the sort who hold their news and information sources accountable for connecting the dots, hence we get stupidity like 'leaving Paris Climate Agreement creates jobs!' They don't think to ask the next question; 'why would that be so?' They don't ask the next question after that, either; 'who benefits?'

But some people were born suckers, I guess.
 
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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ArcticGranite said:
Without any grant/tax break-how many years for roi on a home using 1500 kWh per month at $0.20 KWh utility price?
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1500 x .2 = $300/month.
1500kWh/30= 50kWh/day
Ballpark $10k for such a system
$10,000/300=33 months, or less than 3 years.

Lifetime of the average system is 20 years. I didn't price the battery, but there are ways around that, like owning an electric car and using it as energy storage. This is already being done on a national scale in countries like Denmark.

This assumes electricity rates don't rise, which of course they do.
 
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ttystikk

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abandonconflict said:
Investing gov't funds into coal jobs and subsidies makes about as much sense as investing in drive through film development.
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The mayor of Gillette, Wyoming recently spoke to NPR. She said there was interest in coal deposits from new startup companies- but none of them were planning to burn the coal. They were commercializing it for other uses, like filtration. Needless to say, demand for the raw material will be much smaller.
 
ArcticGranite

ArcticGranite

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ttystikk said:
1500 x .2 = $300/month.
1500kWh/30= 50kWh/day
Ballpark $10k for such a system
$10,000/300=33 months, or less than 3 years.

Lifetime of the average system is 20 years. I didn't price the battery, but there are ways around that, like owning an electric car and using it as energy storage. This is already being done on a national scale in countries like Denmark.

This assumes electricity rates don't rise, which of course they do.
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I'm wondering if battery life (5 years ?) may be a drag on cost.
 
SneekyNinja

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ArcticGranite said:
Without any grant/tax break-how many years for roi on a home using 1500 kWh per month at $0.20 KWh utility price?
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5 to 7, warrantied for 25.

7 or 8 years ago I had your scepticism, PV panels just weren't quite there yet and storage solution were clunky at best.

Now people have competitions to see who can power their house without the solar input on batteries alone for the longest time.

It's getting to the point where alot of utilities won't let you sell back to the grid because they'd end up sending you cheques every month because arrays produce such a surplus.
 
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